Powerbox Core radio and set up thread.
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blackcat (12-11-2021)
#1279
The same applies
Also David, defender of all PB - what about the small receivers for indoor? 2 years. The seemingly ignoring of requests for an obvious ability to have an icon on our screen of current selected model.
Seems if not OK with the man then your wasting your time even asking - the responses are either: Defensive "Why do you need that" instead of normal acceptance of peoples differences in needs.
People jump to conclusions "You must be doing it wrong" when a plane is lost - the typical auto response before they know the facts is to blame the end user - even Richard has done it. Like the Core is god-like and could not possible be at fault.
Just look at the excitement with the last 2 product released! A € 39,90 servo telemetry thing you stick on with tape! They will go like hot cakes. Pop 8-10 of these in your next big glider.
Next was the V-regulator a bargain for € 34,90 (if it was 2005)with fixed 5.3 or 6volt outputs? Again - when Castle and others have a better device for less that you can configure.
So keep on with your comments re our weather whilst I see it is a miserable 7°C this weekend where you are [img]images/icons/icon10.gif[/img] - I think the cold has made some blinded by the reality.
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cptnassos (12-10-2021)
#1280
All I can say is that I can’t wait for Jan 1st. When the power box is still in business. We all remember that we were promised in this tread that if they are still in business by end of this year, then certain people stop posting in this thread. Then we will see who will keep the promise and whom not!
#1282
I just curious why Powerbox cannot make a common and easy function for the high end transmitter.The sequencer function is more complicate but they can do it.Now I use interval speech every 30 seconds but the speech cannot work correctly example is it will say 1.59 when the timer show 2 minute left(while a guy stand beside laugh at me because his cheap transmitter can say correctly).It will be perfect if the timer can warn by speech exactly and countdown every second in last ten seconds.
#1283
All I can say is that I can’t wait for Jan 1st. When the power box is still in business. We all remember that we were promised in this tread that if they are still in business by end of this year, then certain people stop posting in this thread. Then we will see who will keep the promise and whom not!
I wonder if he will go back and edit previous posts?????
Regards,
Last edited by Halcyon66; 12-10-2021 at 10:39 AM.
#1285
Maybe it is just the fact that we down south don’t like getting sold empty promises? Don't forget all the convicts sent down here so long again were told it would be a two week cruise with open bar.
Dave why don't you just actually reply to miksterr posts point for point?
Dave are you aware that the MD of PowerBox-Systems GmbH has made abusive and harassing statements to PB users directly through the internal private messaging system of the PowerBox forum?
He even edited these attacks numerous times, as he knew he had gone too far.
Don't worry it was not to me, as we all know I was kicked off the PB forum over a year ago as I had the audacity to question/highlighted the complete lack of Heli mixing. Let’s not forget that 50 euro radios have more Heli mixing than the Core.
It also seems direct online harassment also occurs in the US.
Why did Multiplex drop their PB relationship?
Everyday more and more Core users are PM'ing me about the never ending issues and there want to get rid of their Core's. The main issue used to be the simple fact they believed the early hype and bought 20+ RX's and redid their entire fleet and their quagmire has been to hang and hope the issues would stop. They haven't.
Yet more recently it is Richard's dismissive attitude when they question anything on the PB forum.
Anyway the Atom will be out sometime in 2023 so will be interesting to see if all the software and hardware issues are resolved?
Forums are for good and bad and that adds value. Otherwise they are the PB forum.
Regards,
#1286
1) Abusive and harassing statements? You mean like the ones you are posting on here ?…
2) Forums are good and sometimes bad…so tell us all what value you are adding to this thread ? Or is that another question you are ignoring….
As I, and others have said, clear off and find a supercar forum to moan on - they have wasted heaps more cash than you have
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#1287
Something positive during coffee time !
Yes, I upgraded to 2.70 and did notice low volume, but no big deal. That we have that fixed within 24 hours is extraordinarily good service by any standards.
I have been through all the aspects of the upgrade and they all work as advertised, both models I have checked responded normally, so have no worries about the unchanged aspects. I particularly like the change to servo resolution. So far, all looks good but I will fly it later this week.
I have a P2 servo bridge and explored it yesterday. Again, it works as advertised and I see great use for this device.
Although I have always checked individual servo currents during installation, in-line ammeter, my Weatronics system shows only TOTAL in flight currents, not individual servo currents, highly valuable data, but I wanted more. This new device shows INDIVIDUAL current draws from which one can determine exactly how much torque is being developed IN FLIGHT, to me, valuable empirical data, allowing one to see how hard the servo is, or is not, working.
I suggest appying a spring balance to the servo and increasing the load until the previously recorded current is shown, then we have the value of the inflight torque being applied . Great for applications such as flaps, servo operated gear, doors etc.and one can then set the trip values accordingly to prevent possible burnout or other servo damage and will help in choosing servo spec.
The device appears to be very easily adjusted to set various parameters and assigning a channel is simplicity through the menu. All adjusted from the Core Tx, of course.
Attaching the device to the servo is only for temp measurement ,which seems accurate, but for temporary attachment, not using the adhesive patch, I simply used a tie wrap.
So far so good and my coffee is getting cold !
Yes, I upgraded to 2.70 and did notice low volume, but no big deal. That we have that fixed within 24 hours is extraordinarily good service by any standards.
I have been through all the aspects of the upgrade and they all work as advertised, both models I have checked responded normally, so have no worries about the unchanged aspects. I particularly like the change to servo resolution. So far, all looks good but I will fly it later this week.
I have a P2 servo bridge and explored it yesterday. Again, it works as advertised and I see great use for this device.
Although I have always checked individual servo currents during installation, in-line ammeter, my Weatronics system shows only TOTAL in flight currents, not individual servo currents, highly valuable data, but I wanted more. This new device shows INDIVIDUAL current draws from which one can determine exactly how much torque is being developed IN FLIGHT, to me, valuable empirical data, allowing one to see how hard the servo is, or is not, working.
I suggest appying a spring balance to the servo and increasing the load until the previously recorded current is shown, then we have the value of the inflight torque being applied . Great for applications such as flaps, servo operated gear, doors etc.and one can then set the trip values accordingly to prevent possible burnout or other servo damage and will help in choosing servo spec.
The device appears to be very easily adjusted to set various parameters and assigning a channel is simplicity through the menu. All adjusted from the Core Tx, of course.
Attaching the device to the servo is only for temp measurement ,which seems accurate, but for temporary attachment, not using the adhesive patch, I simply used a tie wrap.
So far so good and my coffee is getting cold !
Last edited by David Gladwin; 12-12-2021 at 02:45 AM.
#1288
To add to the above I have now test flown the bridge in a LifOff a Hotliner glider, bridge connected to one aileron servo and with vario connected to PB dock all connected to 5 ch rx via P2 bus outlet for a PWM signal to a small JR wing servo.
Rest current..03, average in flight .05, ( 10 mins flight, 10 on ground) max 0.27 and that is with a high speed dive, ailerons in crow and full roll applied on ailerons.
Voltage min 5.7 max 6.04 with PB regulator set at 5.9.v Cable lengths unchanged.
Device not attached to servo so temp.recording was ambient, dropped from 23 indoors to 15 during 10 min flight.
Really looking forward to testing this device on flaps in a Jet for some real high load figures.
Brilliant device.
Rest current..03, average in flight .05, ( 10 mins flight, 10 on ground) max 0.27 and that is with a high speed dive, ailerons in crow and full roll applied on ailerons.
Voltage min 5.7 max 6.04 with PB regulator set at 5.9.v Cable lengths unchanged.
Device not attached to servo so temp.recording was ambient, dropped from 23 indoors to 15 during 10 min flight.
Really looking forward to testing this device on flaps in a Jet for some real high load figures.
Brilliant device.
Last edited by David Gladwin; 12-17-2021 at 06:57 AM.
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husafreak (12-17-2021)
#1289
To add to the above I have now test flown the bridge in a LifOff a Hotliner glider, bridge connected to one aileron servo and with vario connected to PB dock all connected to 5 ch rx via P2 bus outlet for a PWM signal to a small JR wing servo.
Rest current..03, average in flight .05, ( 10 mins flight, 10 on ground) max 0.27 and that is with a high speed dive, ailerons in crow and full roll applied on ailerons.
Voltage min 5.7 max 6.04 with PB regulator set at 5.9.v Cable lengths unchanged.
Device not attached to servo so temp.recording was ambient, dropped from 23 indoors to 15 during 10 min flight.
Really looking forward to testing this device on flaps in a Jet for some real high load figures.
Brilliant device.
Rest current..03, average in flight .05, ( 10 mins flight, 10 on ground) max 0.27 and that is with a high speed dive, ailerons in crow and full roll applied on ailerons.
Voltage min 5.7 max 6.04 with PB regulator set at 5.9.v Cable lengths unchanged.
Device not attached to servo so temp.recording was ambient, dropped from 23 indoors to 15 during 10 min flight.
Really looking forward to testing this device on flaps in a Jet for some real high load figures.
Brilliant device.
Congratulations, I have been using similar S30 for almost 2 years, very useful device. Helped me to diagnose retract servo problems on one of my large ASH31 scale sailplanes.
Elite Telemetry Sensor Current/Voltage/Capacity & Servo Overload Protection Voltario S30 12V/30A (Jeti EX, Graupner HoTT, Futaba S.Bus2)
#1290
Congratulations, I have been using similar S30 for almost 2 years, very useful device. Helped me to diagnose retract servo problems on one of my large ASH31 scale sailplanes.
Elite Telemetry Sensor Current/Voltage/Capacity & Servo Overload Protection Voltario S30 12V/30A (Jeti EX, Graupner HoTT, Futaba S.Bus2)
That said’ the bridge is a PB product designed to work with the Core and this is a Core thread. I thought it worth reporting my initial findings on this new, very useful, device. I will certainly be using a pair to analyse servo loads on controls such as flaps to see the effects of aerodynamic loads and aeroelasticity on control systems.
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husafreak (12-17-2021)
#1292
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PB RPM Sensor
Need some help with a PB RPM sensor on my core.
The TX recognizes the sensor, and the widget is there, but the RPM does not register; only a random number now and then. The engine is a DA35.
There is not much in the way of instructions for it. I have put in a call to PB Americas, but until I hear back from them I was hoping someone might have some idea of what else I could try.
Thanks- Mike O.
The TX recognizes the sensor, and the widget is there, but the RPM does not register; only a random number now and then. The engine is a DA35.
There is not much in the way of instructions for it. I have put in a call to PB Americas, but until I hear back from them I was hoping someone might have some idea of what else I could try.
Thanks- Mike O.
#1293
Need some help with a PB RPM sensor on my core.
The TX recognizes the sensor, and the widget is there, but the RPM does not register; only a random number now and then. The engine is a DA35.
There is not much in the way of instructions for it. I have put in a call to PB Americas, but until I hear back from them I was hoping someone might have some idea of what else I could try.
Thanks- Mike O.
The TX recognizes the sensor, and the widget is there, but the RPM does not register; only a random number now and then. The engine is a DA35.
There is not much in the way of instructions for it. I have put in a call to PB Americas, but until I hear back from them I was hoping someone might have some idea of what else I could try.
Thanks- Mike O.
#1297
Thread Starter
I’ve spoken with Richard today on your behalf, but neither of us have knowledge of anyone with a DA-35 trying the rpm sensor. They are pretty rare engines over here…