Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > RC Jets
 servo controlled ball valve? >

servo controlled ball valve?

Community
Search
Notices
RC Jets Discuss RC jets in this forum plus rc turbines and ducted fan power systems

servo controlled ball valve?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-29-2003 | 04:21 PM
  #1  
adryan's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Valkenswaard, NETHERLANDS
Default servo controlled ball valve?

Hi,

I'm installing my equipment in the Roo and have a question. In some early versions of JET International I saw they used a servo controlled ball-valve as a kill switch. I'm using the jet-cat, but is it still necessary to install such a servo controlled kill switch?
Most pictures of installation I see posted don't include such a switch.

Rgds,

Adryan
Old 10-29-2003 | 05:11 PM
  #2  
UK Flier's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 178
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Nuneaton, UNITED KINGDOM
Default RE: servo controlled ball valve?

Good question, I am looking for the same thing.

Found this in the festo catalogue which looks as if it might have a long enough arm
for a servo connection, but it only comes in 4mm fitting, I need 3mm.


http://catalog.festo.com/data/CAT_PD...04/4_08-12.pdf
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Xv64748.gif
Views:	82
Size:	2.8 KB
ID:	70974  
Old 10-29-2003 | 05:58 PM
  #3  
CJ2002's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,249
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Wilts, UNITED KINGDOM
Default RE: servo controlled ball valve?

ORIGINAL: adryan

Hi,

...is it still necessary to install such a servo controlled kill switch?


Rgds,

Adryan

Hi Adryan,

In England, the BMFA uses the GTBAs Code of Practice as the authoritive document, and it states:

"3.3 The fuel line must have a mechanical shut-off valve, in the delivery line from the fuel tank(s), or a switch to isolate the electrical supply to the fuel pump motor, which can be manually operated in addition to any servo control, and which is readily accessible."

Cheers,

Dick
England
Old 10-29-2003 | 06:10 PM
  #4  
UK Flier's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 178
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Nuneaton, UNITED KINGDOM
Default RE: servo controlled ball valve?

so which one do you use Dick?
Old 10-30-2003 | 02:17 AM
  #5  
CJ2002's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,249
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Wilts, UNITED KINGDOM
Default RE: servo controlled ball valve?

ORIGINAL: UK Flier

so which one do you use Dick?

Just the standard manual shut-off valve that UKFLIER has highlighted....not servo controlled (it's a back-up just in case the electronic side of things fails - also useful to stop fuel going to the engine during refuelling, etc).

Do a search for Festo and, from there, find where the nearest distributer is to you...or, if you're in the UK, go to Motors and Rotors website and buy one from Dave Wilshere - he stocks them.

Cheers,
Dick
England
Old 10-30-2003 | 12:54 PM
  #6  
Robrow's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,718
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Southport, UNITED KINGDOM
Default RE: servo controlled ball valve?

If you ar not too restricted on space you can put a Festo 4mm/3mm straight reducer connector either side of the 4mm ball valve.

Rob.
Old 10-31-2003 | 08:04 AM
  #7  
Topgun2mo's Avatar
Senior Member
My Feedback: (45)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,097
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Slidell, LA
Default RE: servo controlled ball valve?

I think it would be very wise to add a servo to the manual valve to have the capability of shutting off the fuel flow to the pump. I have seen an ECU malfunction in the air, the fuel pump continued to run and the results were not a pretty site. The servo could be mixed with the throttle trim so that when you shut down the ECU the servo also closes the fuel valve. David Gladwin outlined this in one of the Jet International Articles. He used a cable that can only close the valve. The valve had to manually reopened.

I think this is a real smart thing to do...could possibly save an airplane.
Old 10-31-2003 | 01:07 PM
  #8  
cairoman's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,016
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Nicosia, , CYPRUS
Default RE: servo controlled ball valve?

This is what I use as a manual/servo controlled bypass valve in all my airplanes. It is what Simjet recommended for use in the old pre-electonic fuel valve systems.

Chris
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Ig11780.jpg
Views:	141
Size:	48.8 KB
ID:	71430  
Old 10-31-2003 | 03:08 PM
  #9  
My Feedback: (6)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 5,437
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
From: Slidell, LA LA
Default RE: servo controlled ball valve?

Cairoman, I'd love to get some of those valves. Do you know of a source? Thanks.
Old 11-01-2003 | 12:00 AM
  #10  
cairoman's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,016
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Nicosia, , CYPRUS
Default RE: servo controlled ball valve?

Hi Mark,

It's a Festo three-way valve, Type:33003 KH/O-3-PK-3 for 0-115 psi. I bought a bundle of those, four years ago in Toronto from Festo Canada.

Chris
Old 11-01-2003 | 12:34 AM
  #11  
UK Flier's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 178
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Nuneaton, UNITED KINGDOM
Default RE: servo controlled ball valve?

Chris that is brilliant, Just what I was looking for as well.

John
Old 11-01-2003 | 06:17 AM
  #12  
cairoman's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,016
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Nicosia, , CYPRUS
Default RE: servo controlled ball valve?

Hi John,

Glad, I could contribute with something here. Please note that these valves do not last too long. I change mine once a year. The good thing about those, is that they will not put stress on the pump, just by-pass the fuel supply.

Chris
Old 11-01-2003 | 08:12 AM
  #13  
My Feedback: (6)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 5,437
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
From: Slidell, LA LA
Default RE: servo controlled ball valve?

Why don't they last long? What craps out? Thanks.
Old 11-01-2003 | 09:29 AM
  #14  
cairoman's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,016
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Nicosia, , CYPRUS
Default RE: servo controlled ball valve?

The rubber stoppers inside them become hard after prolonged exposure to our fuels (turbine oil).

Chris
Old 11-01-2003 | 06:21 PM
  #15  
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 13,265
Received 792 Likes on 575 Posts
From: Watford, UNITED KINGDOM
Default RE: servo controlled ball valve?

Guy's

MAS make a nice servo operated shut-off valve that's small and neat.

The Festo ball valve can be servo opertated with a cam arm-Tom Wilkinson showed one in his original Kangeroo review in RCJI

Dave Wilshere

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.