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Old 07-29-2004 | 12:25 PM
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Hey Guys....

As most of you know, Skymaster has been hard at work to release a variety of new high quality ARF jets. With the release of the BAE Hawk and the F-5 rapidly approaching, we are seeking your input for the custom color schemes they will offer. Please give us an idea what schemes you would like to see being offered for these two airframes. Pictures, if available would help.
The F-5 will only be available in Gray gel coat (for your personal paint scheme) and custom factory paint schemes. This kit will not be offered in a "painted in the mold" form. This will eliminate the seam line issue typical with this process.
The Hawk will be available in Gray Gel coat, the Red Arrows scheme seen below and.....?
So.....lets hear what you want!

Thanks in advance!
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Old 07-29-2004 | 12:51 PM
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[link=http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/t-45-pics.htm]T45[/link]

Old 07-29-2004 | 01:15 PM
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I agree
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Old 07-29-2004 | 01:56 PM
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There is/was a very pretty all black/yellow trim Hawk that somewhat resembled the Red Arrows scheme. Really good looking aircraft.
Old 07-29-2004 | 02:07 PM
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T-45 scheme.
Old 07-29-2004 | 02:11 PM
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What are the specs on the Hawk?
When will it be available?
Will there be scale struts available for it?
What retracts will it use?
Will there be Kevlar fuel tanks avaiable for it?
Old 07-29-2004 | 02:34 PM
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What are the specs on the Hawk?
1 : 5.5 Scale

Length: 82" (2080mm). Wingspan: 71' (1800mm). Estimated Weight: 21Lb(10kg).

Power: 12~26Lb (5.5~12kg) thrust

Radio: min. 7 ~ 10 Servos required

List Price $ 995.00 USD (Gray primer)

List Price $ 1095.00 USD (red Arrow or T-45 Color Schemes)

List Price $ 1250.00 USD (external camouflage paint)

When will it be available?
Shooting for a Sept/Oct Delivery date on first batch

Will there be scale struts available for it?
Yes!

What retracts will it use?
Most Likely, Robart

Will there be Kevlar fuel tanks avaiable for it?
Fiberglass tanks will be available from Skymaster. Aftermarket Kevlar should be available shortly after release from Gary Mueller.

The List is growing quickly for both of these aircraft. If you wish to reserve either an F-5 or a Hawk I suggest you contact me at [email protected] or Airpac at [email protected].
Old 07-29-2004 | 02:41 PM
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How about these
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Here is a list of Airforces that have the Hawk in service, other than the T-45

The Swiss and Australian Air force with be my chioce. But i do like the T-45 Scheme.

Royal Air Force
No. 100 Squadron
No. 4 Flying Training School
RAF Aerobatic Team
Royal Australian Air Force
Finnish Air Force
Kenyan Air Force
Saudi Arabian Air Force
South African Air Force
South Korean Air Force
Swiss Air Force
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Australian Air force
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Todd,
Do you think a plane like this (the Hawk) would be flyable regularly off a 600 foot grass runway? (fairly smooth and getting better) when powered with 21 to 24 pounds thrust?

WHat about the gear? Will they hold up you think?

I like that plane... a lot!

AJC
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Patrulla de Aguila.
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Old 07-29-2004 | 06:08 PM
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falcon wings,i like that a whole bunch
Old 07-29-2004 | 06:30 PM
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Hey AJC,

If it matters, i regularly fly my skymaster f15 off a 600ft grass runway without problems. It has the Robart gear in it (likely the same to be used in the hawk) and haven't had a problem with it. They are really strong gear. I am also using the skymaster struts, wheels, and brakes and everyting works very nicely! I don't see why the hawk would have a problem off of a grass runway like you described.
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Thanks for the comment - I dont know how the wing loading would be, ie, would it be similar to your plane, heavier (and require more runway to land?) or what..

The ones that come in gray primer, I assume they are ready to paint? Or is there a lot of prep needed?

AJC
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The pic posted by mach1-RCU has my vote!
Old 07-29-2004 | 07:57 PM
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There is/was a very pretty all black/yellow trim Hawk that somewhat resembled the Red Arrows scheme. Really good looking aircraft.
Doug, Is this the one you were thinking?

http://freepages.military.rootsweb.c...hawkt1a-15.jpg
Old 07-29-2004 | 08:30 PM
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How about the ETPS colour scheme from Boscombe Down.

Their ASTRA (Fly-by-wire) Hawk in flight simulator also has a similar colour scheme.

I'm just going to start building a Hunter, which looks sweet in the Rasberry Ripple colours, and the Hawk would make a nice pair. Same family history as well with personal memories.

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Old 07-29-2004 | 08:49 PM
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Patrulla de Aguila.
I like the Aguila scheme too, but it belongs on a CASA 101, not a Hawk...

...I wish the big Hawk WAS going to be a CASA instead!! Maybe make one of them next?
Old 07-29-2004 | 09:14 PM
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ORIGINAL: ajcoholic

Thanks for the comment - I dont know how the wing loading would be, ie, would it be similar to your plane, heavier (and require more runway to land?) or what..

The ones that come in gray primer, I assume they are ready to paint? Or is there a lot of prep needed?

AJC
Andrew,
Due to the light wing loading on the Hawk, it will be very well suited for grass field ops. Certainly no issues at 600ft. The Robart gear can handle the loads and I have already had some discussions with Airpac regarding gear mounts. Rest assured, they will be beefy
The Gel Coat gray versions will only require the typical minor seam line clean up for painting.


DONT FORGET ABOUT THE F-5 GUYS! We need your input on this one as well
Old 07-29-2004 | 09:44 PM
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DONT FORGET ABOUT THE F-5 GUYS! We need your input on this one as well

Hey Todd,

any paint scheme with Marines on it would be great!!

actually 6-10 of them will be in San Diego in a month for a couple of weeks. I'll try to remember to take pix before they leave.

buck
Old 07-29-2004 | 09:49 PM
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T-45 colors get my vote . Todd you got mail !

Charlie H
Old 07-29-2004 | 09:58 PM
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Thank you for all of input. Any color scheme suggestion for F-5 and F-18E Super Hornet?
Old 07-29-2004 | 10:45 PM
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ERIC,,,,,,,,,,,,, What super hornet???????????????????? please tell me you guy's will be making the 2 seater please please please
Old 07-29-2004 | 10:45 PM
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For the Hawk, I agree , T-45 Goshawk scheme...

For the F-5, the Patroulle Swiss team scheme would be cool, as would the Navy/Marine aggressor scheme posted on the other Skymaster thread. Unless I can get a T-38 at the same time...

I'll take mine in the aggressor scheme, or grey primer, or anything...just get it to me!

Barry
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