AMT?

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Why change the post? it's not the question that was asked last night. I didn't have an answer for the question posed last night, but assuming truth in it, would like to know the answer.

What was the question??

I am using the original AMT Netherlands Pegasus since 6 years now. Very, very satisfied!!! Best support in Europe and a outstanding quality and reliability.

Andreas

Did the maiden flight of may F-22 today after having it destroid last year. "I feel good na na na......"

not another rumour that amt (usa) has been bought up by xyz_acme inc ?
yawn.

I was told AMT changed ownership, this was announced at he Windy City Jet Show. The new owners promises improvement in the product. I don't believe this is a rumor. I have engines in for service so I'm calling next week to ask what they will be doing

maybe the new owner will give me a full refund on my reacently purchased NIB at400 im told i can not even run because it will sieze up on me [>:][>:][>:] .. and no one knows when bearings that work and are not off of a grocery shoping cart will be available... On my other at400, i almost lost my king cat twice when it siezed up on me in flight [>:][>:] Im VERY dissapointed ... I understand that AMT was issues a bad batch of bearings which is responsible for the dozen or more in flight seizures this year alone, and i do fell bad for them, but from the consumer stand point, i want my $ back [>:] ... I should never have strayed from JetCat !!


Wojtek

who's the new owner? location? any mention of product upgrades or when the baton will be passed over etc?

Fluctuations.......

I saw that seizure, yep, came very close to losing a nice aircraft.
Have you thought about just biting the bullet and having Carlos or somebody else change the bearings? AMT ought to do it, yeah, but who knows if or when, but at least you would be up and flying....

I'm keeping the faith that the new AMT owners will make every effort in continuing quality and workmanship as before just improving where needed. In my book the company's past rep. was good to me. Bruce and Rodney communicated with me well concerning engines. They are great guys, thats why I ask the question AMT? what's next.

I have known for several weeks about the pending sale of AMT; but promised to keep it under wraps until Jim announced the sale to the public. Just as when Ram started to have quality problems after the split up of the company people are starting to worry about AMT now that they are sold this is just human nature; however this post is the only place I have ever heard of anyone having problems with any AMT engine. I believe that when you buy a company you buy the reputation as well as the products in house that are new and those in the field that are under warranty and out of warranty and should do what ever it takes to make your now customers happy within reason. I wish good luck to the new owners of AMT and Jim.

Why anyone would buy an AMT without NL after the name escapes me. roo.

Bruce has been great, and has supported me through all my orerlas with the at400s .. however Jim refused to take the NIB DEFECTIVE engine back ... im at the point where i will just have my CC company issue me the refund [>:] ....

Easytiger, on the at400 i have been using on the KingCat, i might actually send that in to Carlos to get fixed, however i would be billing AMT for whatever it costs as at this point they are in violation of their warranty by not being able to repair this problem with the bearings, possibly for months to come !

All the AMT reps have been very quiet on these issues as of late, as literally DOZENS of engines have been seizing up ! mostly at400s, but also some 450s. Most of the new large engines from AMT have defective bearings which are out of spec, and have been causing the seizures, this is what I have been told by AMT themselves. Bruce told me a few weeks back that a notice was going to be put on their web site to stop running any of the newer motors At400s, and some 450s) or ones that have recently had new bearings put in ... the notice never came up, and a sale that AMT had going on was just extended out longer instead

All i want is a turbine that wont seize up on me, and cauase the loss of a $15K + plane ! I paid for 2 39lbs turbines that were supposed to be the bullet proof rols royce of the turbine industry, thats what i expect to get, if AMT can't deliver, i demand my $ back ![>:][>:]

Wojtek

It's a 'DONE DEAL' the new owners were at Windy City jets along with Rodny (Service guy) and they have a new LIFETIME LIMITED WARRENTY on all their turbine engines.

In a nutshell, if you comply with all their service requirements (AKA 3000 mile oil change, ha ha) and NO CRASH or FOD damage, if ANY thing goes wrong with an AMT USA turbine it will be fixed under warrenty free of charge, plus the price of shipping. Un beatable like the employee price from GM on a new car!!!!!!!!!!







Not an AMT USA Rep

that would be quite noble of them ... but how long till they can get new parts in to get the current slew of issues resolved ??? When it ran , I loved my at 400 ... I can't get a direct answer out of any of the repst, or AMT []


Wojtek

Try 'em again, they are moving all to Cincinnati, Ohio ASAP.

I agree my AMTs run great!!! I just would like to now how long it maybe in working out the issue with bearings? I'm giving them a chance.It's worth it to me.

Ditto!!! I love my iron lung!!! Lookin' forward to meeting the new folks one day.

I have been using the AMT line of turbines since 98, and have had only a rpm sensor failure in a Mercury(AT-180) and Superman 98 in a demo Razor. Flamed on take-off, but had plenty of runway for a heavy landing full of fuel. I have flown the 280 for years, and currently fly the 450 in my new mega-jet, the Jacknife. I am building a second Jacknife presently and am planning the new 450 for it also. Give them a chance to settle it after the move, and I'm sure they will take care of any problems. I did hear mention of a bad batch of bearings while waiting for a Pegasus turn-around.

Jack Holland[8D]

Jack

you going to GSW in Waco? I'm looking forward to seeing the JackKnife!

take care

amigo

I've never heard of a turbine being refered to as an "iron lung" before.
Very funny, and since AMT's are built like brick out buildings, quite apt.

I've always thought of AMT's being like agricultural turbines. Maybe a pound heavier than the competition, but guaranteed to start, whatever the weather or conditions or state of neglect.

Hope the AMT move to new premises goes smoothly.

Sad that there were some issues with bearings. I don't know what the situation with AMT USA is because they have nothing to do with AMT Netherlands the founder of AMT since 2000 i guess.

AMT Netherlands still is one of the best available Turbines in Europe. I am using my Pegasus MK-3 since 1998 now. The only thing that happened in this time was one RPM Sensor broken (because a stone came between kompressor and sensor and damaged it) one kompressor because someone put his finger in my turbine (NO JOKE!!) and the inner tailcone came off one time (thrust cone? I don't know the word for it in english) All repairs were made free of charge for me except the Kompressor because it was damaged, so no fault of AMT.

Bennie is a very nice guy very open. He is not having any secrets to his customers. Because we know us some years now, he showed some ECU secrets to me so that I could power up my old baby to at least 13kg of thrust. I now reduced this again to 11 because this is still enough for my F-22.

Yes they are a bit heavier than a P-120 but compared to the P-120 its like comparing a softball with a baseball! Made from a brick?? Lets say there is plenty of material where neccessary which gives this rock steady reliability.

Instead of buying these USA copies, why not using the original made from AMT Netherland??? Bennie is giving a worldwide warranty and guaranteed service. Its just the shipping which maybe is some time critical but this also is possible with FedEx in 24h!

His welder repaired my Pegasus in 3 days between one to another flight show und plus that upgraded it to electric start.

This is service!!

Andreas,
a very satisfied AMT Netherland customer which is NOT sponsored in any way!

bacause a 45lbs engine from the us costs under $5000usd, and if one were to buy the equivelant from AMT netherlands, after the euro conversion, this would come out to be over $7000usd !! Here in the US, i'd rather pay $4500 for a jet cat that also produces 45lbs, and get super service, and reliability. Like i saif before, i sorely regret having tried the AMT motors ... ( I would love them if i could actually run them !!! [>:] )


Wojtek

I have two AMT USA Mecurys, almost a thousand flights since 1999. Always starts and are rock solid.
Wish the new owners well, I will support them.
Ron Doctorick

I have 3 AMT 180's, 2 AMT 280's and a AT400. There never has been any problems with the 180's and 280's. Always start. never loose power, never flame out, fast ramp up, great power - near perfect. Never had any service or parts replaced. The "iron lung" provides great protection for the turbine in the event of a crash. Had one Bobcat totaled. Removed the AT180 and it fired right up.

My AT400 has never been run. I am not going to run it until the bearing issue has been resolved.

I hope if anyone gets any word (offiical not rumor) from AMT concerning the bearings that they will post it here

Jack Mathias
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