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Old 03-22-2008 | 05:50 AM
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Default 2.4 and powerbox. Any problems?

After having my Boomer xl shot down last week on 72mHz I am going to 2.4 on my jets. I want to use my powerbox and was wondering if anyone experienced any issues. I don't envision any since is only an output signal power management system but just wanted to check. I noticed on the new boxes it say 2.3 compatible but my system is 2years old and my box does not have that.

Just to let you know a new Boomer xl is on the way. I love that plane.

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Hi Scott,
I have been using Powerbox equipment on my Spektrum radios for about 6-7months now. I have a total of 6( 4 jets and two big prop models) models flying with this combo and all have worked perfectly.
I spoke to Emmerich ( The designer and manufacturer) of power box products some months ago and he told me that they had tested all their products with all three of the major 2.4 ghz technology products on the market with 100% success.
Hope this helps?
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Old 03-22-2008 | 07:18 AM
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I flew my first 2.4 unit an AR 7000 back in November 2006 using a Professional unit with 2 x 4.8v Nicad batteries.
If anything a powerbox system should be better because of the dual batteries and stable voltage.
You won't have a problem.
The stickers on boxes were only done because people kept asking whether it would be OK.
No difference between early and later units as far as 2.4 goes.

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Old 03-22-2008 | 11:02 AM
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One thing to watch out for is if you use lipos with the early type powerbox sensor switch. They do not work reliably with lipos. Use the new version with the purple regulator heat sinks.
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I think Powerbox and 2.4 are a great combo. I have that on 4 of my jets and all have worked perfectly. I just purchased the new Royal by Powerbox, and it has the ability to run two 2.4 recievers. While I don't think it is needed it sure cant hurt.

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3 Powerbox Royals and a Competition with Futaba RX6014s seem fine so far.

I think Emmerich said any powerbox from the last 3 years will be fine and those prior to that can be returned to him for updating.

Great support and great products!

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One thing to watch out for is if you use lipos with the early type powerbox sensor switch. They do not work reliably with lipos. Use the new version with the purple regulator heat sinks.

What exactly is the problem with this combo ?
Old 03-23-2008 | 01:17 AM
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I think it has to do with the higher input voltage from the lipo to the regulator. I have three of the earlier version sensor switch with the black regulators & sometimes I noticed that one or both batteries would not switch on. Using nicads they work perfectly. To be safe, I only use the new version switch with lipo.
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Here is some info that i recieved from Emmerich (Mr. PB) himself:
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the PB Sensor have always the same electronic switches and the same regulators inside, the new one and the older one, absolutely the same, only the volt controllers with a three colour LED and the blue heater is new, all the other is absolutely the same. I think if he has a problem he must send it back to me, if it works fine with NC but with LiPo not, then we must look, when we have this problem on a PB, the regulators are died because the customer have made a wrong polarisation.
And the PB Sensor is perfect for all 2,4 GHz receiver, it gives a perfect linear regulated voltage of 5,9 volts to the receivers, the problem with the 6014 is a signal amplifier problem not a voltage problem.

Second:
This problem of the very low signal voltage is only by Futaba and not by all the many other manufacturers, we have found 2 Futaba servos what does also not work on this Futaba receiver, and when we look further, I am sure we find more electronic parts from Futaba what have problems on their own receiver. Futaba have forgotten an additional IC what make sure for the right signal levels, this is fact, I have heard that the electronic constructor by Futaba what have make this mistake have lost his job, the best and safety way for Futaba is to call back all this receivers in the factory, nothing else is correct. The same way as in the car industry, if they have a security problem, the cars must back to the dealers garage! But Futaba see us modellers as toys players! And this is also not correct! And may be it is dangerous.
Perhaps we must write this urgently in the forums, that Futaba wake up!

And you know we modellers have in the past also a great problem with the G3 receiver ( 5014 ) from Futaba, many many planes are crashed because this receiver, and now after 2 years they have the G3 with the part number 5114 and this is function ! You will see in some month we have the next version of the 6014 with the order number 6114 !

You will see if you have only one or two electronic parts what does not function, the signal amplifier is a fast and great solution.
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I have just rceived a 2.4 Futaba Fast module for my 14MZ, on setting it up in my new ANGEL Jet Cat P160 jet it wouold not work through the evolution power box.
I tried it with the second receiver purchased and a spare new power box and same problem.
On the bench not in the plane, One servo is OK 2nd servo OK but thats it, additional servos through power box chanels 345 dont work.
So I put my new JR 2.4 mh 9 chanel in the jet and all OK
Had two flights today with JR 2.4 and Evolution PB and went OK as expected.
I have been using JR and Sprectum with all my jets and all have Power box lipo set up.
What is the problem with Futaba 14 MZ ??.
Come on JR get the 12 chanel out it is to hard setting up on 9 chanels
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brglazza, you might want to send Emmerich an Email, im sure he could upgrade your new unit FOC and make it work fine.
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Hi i3DM
Thanks for the reply.
Appoligies to Emmerich The problem is not with the Evolution.
The same problem can be duplicated with the Power Box out of the loop.
If you take a Y lead out of the futaba RX and use 2 Hi Tec servos the problem is there also.
It is the multiple outlets on the Power Box (same as a Y lead) with Hi Tec servos that is the miss match.
If I use JR or Futaba servos the problem goes away one Futaba and One Hi Tec is OK also.
I have >100 Hi Tec servos in use and >30 in the box new going to be used.
I can not understand why my Jets have all been OK on 36 meg(Australia) with Futaba 14 MZ and dont work on 2.4 with the same 14 MZ Futaba TX.
The 14 MZ has to go as it is eaiser than replacing 130 Hi Tec servos.
I am puzzled that I have not seen this problem reported.
Are Hi Tec servos not popular with Futaba users in the USA?
Regards BRGLAZZA
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Default RE: 2.4 and powerbox. Any problems?

Hi i3DM
Thanks for the reply.
Appoligies to Emmerich The problem is not with the Evolution.
The same problem can be duplicated with the Power Box out of the loop.
If you take a Y lead out of the futaba RX and use 2 Hi Tec servos the problem is there also.
It is the multiple outlets on the Power Box (same as a Y lead) with Hi Tec servos that is the miss match.
If I use JR or Futaba servos the problem goes away one Futaba and One Hi Tec is OK also.
I have >100 Hi Tec servos in use and >30 in the box new going to be used.
I can not understand why my Jets have all been OK on 36 meg(Australia) with Futaba 14 MZ and dont work on 2.4 with the same 14 MZ Futaba TX.
The 14 MZ has to go as it is eaiser than replacing 130 Hi Tec servos.
I am puzzled that I have not seen this problem reported.
Are Hi Tec servos not popular with Futaba users in the USA?
Regards BRGLAZZA
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Hi all,

Please look at post 742

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_61...30/key_/tm.htm

Information on the powerbox and R6014 compatibility straight from Emmerich Deutch.

So be aware even 6 month old Powerbox 40/16 evolution needs to be changed they do NOT work with futaba R6014 receivers!

Cheers,

Mick.


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