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Im about ready to start laying out my MD.
Can anyone help me out with some pictures of your setup. Maybe direct me to a thread.
I just want to get some ideas flowing..
Thanks! Peter
Can anyone help me out with some pictures of your setup. Maybe direct me to a thread.
I just want to get some ideas flowing..
Thanks! Peter
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Do you have 2 MD's?
Your forward one looks alot ore slim than mine..? I was just thinking tonight, After my pneumatics are done the my MD may be close to full, I guess ill have to make up something for my engine accessories? [sm=drowning.gif]
BTW did we put our air tanks in the same place? Im having trouble orienting myself. If not do you think mine are ok here?
I did run a search on "jet installs" and similar phrases but I not getting many pics..?
Thanks guys, Peter
Your forward one looks alot ore slim than mine..? I was just thinking tonight, After my pneumatics are done the my MD may be close to full, I guess ill have to make up something for my engine accessories? [sm=drowning.gif]
BTW did we put our air tanks in the same place? Im having trouble orienting myself. If not do you think mine are ok here?
I did run a search on "jet installs" and similar phrases but I not getting many pics..?
Thanks guys, Peter
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2 different jets.... The F-22 had all the service ports right in front of the engine, so only one hatch had to be taken off between flights....The F-16....that was my 5th or 6th try... I made templates from cardboard and laid everything out...if it looked promising, I cut a rough one from lite ply and did a dry run to make sure everything would fit....there is a lot of stuff you underneath out of view. Although I am still using the same board, it looks totally different now due to differnt engine, different batteries, and 2.4 Receivers.....and no switches.
Is that an F-16? Looks like it may be.... I shoved the tanks as far into the nose as I could so the volume under the cockpit could be filled with all the other hardware. I used a pretty big fuel filter (that round aluminum thing) which took up a lot of room....
Is that an F-16? Looks like it may be.... I shoved the tanks as far into the nose as I could so the volume under the cockpit could be filled with all the other hardware. I used a pretty big fuel filter (that round aluminum thing) which took up a lot of room....
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That's awesome guys!
I like the checklists,
Anyone with an 1/8 F-16?
Pete
Is that what we run for air pressure? 135 PSI? WOW. Rich, Are your air tanks all the way up in the nose?
I like the checklists,
Anyone with an 1/8 F-16?
Pete
Is that what we run for air pressure? 135 PSI? WOW. Rich, Are your air tanks all the way up in the nose?
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135 psi was need to run the JL T-45 retracts, these retracts seem to be inadequate for the job, the only way to make them work reliably was to raise the pressure, I used one Big tank under the tray.
BTW it is a simple task to make the overlay shown, basically if you have access to any graphic program and a laser printer you can do it. Create your design and then reverse print on overhead projector film, on the printed side of the film spray paint white or whatever other color your desire, then let it dry completely. When you view the film from the front it will read correctly and the graphics will be protected. Now take 3M 77 spray adhesive and coat the back of the film and press down on your equipment tray. Viola... you have a professional looking tray
BTW it is a simple task to make the overlay shown, basically if you have access to any graphic program and a laser printer you can do it. Create your design and then reverse print on overhead projector film, on the printed side of the film spray paint white or whatever other color your desire, then let it dry completely. When you view the film from the front it will read correctly and the graphics will be protected. Now take 3M 77 spray adhesive and coat the back of the film and press down on your equipment tray. Viola... you have a professional looking tray

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Hi Pete,
Here you go... this is one of my skymaster 1/8 f16 fitouts...
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_54...tm.htm#5467269
Hope that helps.
Craig.
Here you go... this is one of my skymaster 1/8 f16 fitouts...
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_54...tm.htm#5467269
Hope that helps.
Craig.
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Over several threads (including this one) there have been some photos of beautifully done single large decks with everything on them and with all the air lines and electronics running underneath. While these look gorgeous, I wonder if it compromises maintainability. If you have a problem with any single component, you have to remove the entire deck (and thus deal with ALL the tubing/wires) to fault isolate the issue and then put it ALL back together.
The other train of thought is to install multiple decks each with only a few components, or minimize the number of deck components by mounting them on the fuselage sides. Invariably, you have greater access and thus better maintainability. I'm building a Bandit ARF now and am trying to make the plane as easy to maintain as possible. The pneumatic valves have their own deck with the tubing running above the deck, the ECU/battery are on their own deck, the fill valves/gauges have their own deck, etc. Most of the components can be directly accessed; components deeper in the fuselage (eg fuel pump, solonoid valves, smoke pump, batteries, servos) can be directly accessed by removing the component above (and that removal is fast/simple) and if the component being removed has tubing/wires, there is enough slack that it can be pulled clear of the area without having to disconnect it.
It doesn't look quite as good as some as the works of art above (good job guys) but it's likely faster/easier to maintain especially when you're trying to fix a problem at the field.
Regards,
Jim
The other train of thought is to install multiple decks each with only a few components, or minimize the number of deck components by mounting them on the fuselage sides. Invariably, you have greater access and thus better maintainability. I'm building a Bandit ARF now and am trying to make the plane as easy to maintain as possible. The pneumatic valves have their own deck with the tubing running above the deck, the ECU/battery are on their own deck, the fill valves/gauges have their own deck, etc. Most of the components can be directly accessed; components deeper in the fuselage (eg fuel pump, solonoid valves, smoke pump, batteries, servos) can be directly accessed by removing the component above (and that removal is fast/simple) and if the component being removed has tubing/wires, there is enough slack that it can be pulled clear of the area without having to disconnect it.
It doesn't look quite as good as some as the works of art above (good job guys) but it's likely faster/easier to maintain especially when you're trying to fix a problem at the field.
Regards,
Jim
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It doesn't look quite as good as some as the works of art above (good job guys) but it's likely faster/easier to maintain especially when you're trying to fix a problem at the field.
I have a couple of manual start Wrens and thought to keep all the starting connections together & under the canopy. Now it's all back at the engine, neater, quicker, simpler, lighter. - John.
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Agreed. My thoughts at first were the super neat install but after a couple of jets I now try to spread evrything about & keep serviceability as easy as possible.
I have a couple of manual start Wrens and thought to keep all the starting connections together & under the canopy. Now it's all back at the engine, neater, quicker, simpler, lighter. - John.
It doesn't look quite as good as some as the works of art above (good job guys) but it's likely faster/easier to maintain especially when you're trying to fix a problem at the field.
I have a couple of manual start Wrens and thought to keep all the starting connections together & under the canopy. Now it's all back at the engine, neater, quicker, simpler, lighter. - John.
Nice and neat on top = a BEE HIVE in the belly.... Pain in the arse to get too as well...[:@][>:]
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So you want to see under the hood? Bee's nest I think not if you do some planning.
I had to rebuild my Bandit after a hard landing (too slow) I won't make that mistake again. So I did some clean up and inspection of everything in the plane and replaced everything that was not perfect(because I bought it used 5 yrs ago).
I to put on some new wings and landing gear, now I need to repaint her.
under the tray everything has a disconnect so I can take the tray out and put it aside.
I had to rebuild my Bandit after a hard landing (too slow) I won't make that mistake again. So I did some clean up and inspection of everything in the plane and replaced everything that was not perfect(because I bought it used 5 yrs ago).
I to put on some new wings and landing gear, now I need to repaint her.
under the tray everything has a disconnect so I can take the tray out and put it aside.
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Hey t33,
I notice you too (as do I) have your filters mounted horizontally. Have you ever had any engine flameouts? Reason I am asking is that the comment has been made that the horizontal filter will trap air which can be released when the plane goes vertical. Now I have never had a problem and I am wondering if you have?
Craig.
I notice you too (as do I) have your filters mounted horizontally. Have you ever had any engine flameouts? Reason I am asking is that the comment has been made that the horizontal filter will trap air which can be released when the plane goes vertical. Now I have never had a problem and I am wondering if you have?
Craig.




