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Old 11-24-2009, 05:02 PM
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Seems like the ARF's dont hold up to impacts, atleast KIT planes survive alittle bit better on impact!
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That is what thin super glue is for. Very skilled at it. Can even glue a hot smoking finger (thine super glue) to my tongue.
[sm=tongue_smile.gif][sm=cry_smile.gif].
Tired to ask neighbor for help. They fell down laughing.[sm=angry_smile.gif]
Old 11-25-2009, 02:07 AM
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Way to go Joe. I really liked how you and Hiller flew together as a team at Liberty Bell with your F-86 and his T-33 when you two attended and were pitted next to us that year. Shows all these guys what a MODELER can do when they like a plane that is damaged. You too RC PETE with your rebuilds! Unlike most of the answers in the other thread of what do you do with your damaged jets?We modelers FIX THEM!
Old 11-25-2009, 08:39 AM
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Ron thanks
ARF's are Ok to a certain extent. Mainly for getting in the air quick, I have 2 of them myself, but there are two problems with ARF's that I see.

1-you don't really know how it has been constructed. I have seen inconsistancies between identical jets and in the same model being built.

2-I have been flying for 27 years and have built many a kit in that time frame. This has allowed me to figure out how to repair something. Alot of new people in the hobby today started with some kind of ARF and I feel that the building skills are being lost.
When they do crash they realy don't know how to repair it and some of the ARF's are unrepairable.

Kit building is an art that is getting lost in the shuffle. I would like to see more kits being made again from trainers to jets. I think it gives a certain satisfaction to fly something that a person has built.

When I was at Florida Jets, I think along with myself there where only 4 or 5 KIT built jets there.

I will post more pics as the rebuild progresses.


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Old 11-25-2009, 08:45 AM
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That is what thin super glue is for. Very skilled at it. Can even glue a hot smoking finger (thine super glue) to my tongue.
[sm=tongue_smile.gif][sm=cry_smile.gif].
Tired to ask neighbor for help. They fell down laughing.[sm=angry_smile.gif]
Thats what they make Debonder for although I don't think you would want to put it on your tounge. At my old club I belonged to, We had a guy glue his hand to his mouth with the CA bottle and cap. He had pulled the firewall out of his plane. He got everything set back in place and was holding it with one hand then he grabbed the bottle of CA that was on his tailgate. Oh, it was about 90 degrees that day. he put the cap in his mouth to open it with his teeth and the pressure that was in the bottle pushed the CA out all over his hand and mouth. We took him to the ER and Allthough they didn't laugh they wanted to.

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Fortunately it debonded in less than an hour. Now no matter how hot my finger maybe I'll just spit on it
Old 11-25-2009, 02:16 PM
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A well known jet flyer who's name shall remain anonymous was repairing the crushed nose of his jet. After tack gluing the parts together, he held the fuse with the nose section positioned between his legs, while pouring thin CA in generous quantities inside the fuse.
Well, a lot of the CA ended up in his crotch ares, effectively bonding his jet to his jeans and his private parts. Supposedly very very painful, and also somewhat embarrassing :-)
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Now I don't feel so bad[sm=biggrin.gif]
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Well I managed to make a little more progress over the weekend. In between shopping and a Christmas show I did get the right wing just about finished. The leading edge is done and the aileron and flap cut out. The weather is looking too good today so out to go flying and burn some Kero.

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Old 11-29-2009, 11:14 AM
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IN the first picture I see a MB339, is that what hit you?
Here are the aftermath photos of the Skymaster MB 339
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Rich

I didn't know you had those pics. I don't think it's rebuildable.

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OUCH, I am doing everything I can to keep mine from looking like that....
Old 11-30-2009, 01:34 AM
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OUCH, I am doing everything I can to keep mine from looking like that....
....including not flying it!!
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OUCH, I am doing everything I can to keep mine from looking like that....

Well if you want to keep yours from looking like that, Don't fly up the tail pipe of an F-86

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Old 12-04-2009, 12:03 PM
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I made some more progress on the rebuild. All of the control surfaces on the wings have been cut out and hinged. As for know I am at a stand still on the wing as I am waiting for my glass cloth to be shipped. The drop tanks however are another story. I have 99% of the pieces but they are so flimsy I am up in the air so to speak as to repairing them. I am thinking of just repairing one and turning it into a plug to mold thus letting me make 2 new ones. Not sure yet. I do have all winter.


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Rich

I didn't know you had those pics. I don't think it's rebuildable.

Joe if they would have given the pieces to me I would have re-built it...

Joe those tanks are not that bad.... glass them up

The F-86 is looking real good
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After I put the other post on I went and started gluing the pieces back together. i remembered how you fixed the nose of your T45 by glassing it on the outsid. I am going to use this method because the tanks are jus too small to try to glass on the inside.

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Wing is looking great!

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Old 12-04-2009, 04:24 PM
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Thanks Dave.
I am hoping to have it painted by the end of January.
Then I can start the LONG process of burning in the rivets before it gets clear coated.
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Nice job on the rebuild Joe...sorry we had to meet this way!

I typically don't try to place blame on either pilot for a mid-air, but if you want to blame me that's fine.

Glad to see you're putting it back together.

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Thanks Kenny
I don't blame anyone. I figured that 2 planes tried to occupy the same airspace at the sam time. As we all know, thats impossible.

One thing though. Out of 27 years of flying, that was my first and only mid air. Guess if it had to be done do it big LOL

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Occupying the same airspace at the same time is possible....just not pretty!

In my 33 years of RC flying, all of my mid airs except a couple have happened when racing, which is a different deal for sure. That includes 8 years of 3 ship formation aerobatic flying. I was really disappointed that we got together as your jet was very nice, and I really loved flying the Skymaster MB339. That was a very elegant and graceful flying airplane with no bad habits. It actually could have been rebuilt as well and suffered about the same amount of damage as your Sabre.

Hopefully we can meet again under better circumstances!

Good luck you you, I hope you keep us posted on your rebuild.

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Thanks Kenny
I don't blame anyone. I figured that 2 planes tried to occupy the same airspace at the sam time. As we all know, thats impossible.

One thing though. Out of 27 years of flying, that was my first and only mid air. Guess if it had to be done do it big LOL

Joe
Class Act right there!
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I would like to thank everyone for all the compliments.

Here are the drop tanks with glass. They will need some bondo. I use the stuff called Kromalite. It is a light weight bondo. with a very short working time.

Also I have put the glass on the bottom side of the wings and control surfaces. If all goes well, I should have these parts in primer by next week.
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There you go Joe, I told you those tanks weren't that bad



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