Sky Master F-16 Conversion and Facelift
05-11-2010 | 03:13 PM
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RE: Sky Master F-16 Conversion and Facelift
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The dynamax wont fit inside and would have even bigger ducting problems.
The dynamax wont fit inside and would have even bigger ducting problems.
05-11-2010 | 03:20 PM
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RE: Sky Master F-16 Conversion and Facelift
ORIGINAL: pbusa1400
Kirk,
Just for kicks try the spike BV sells for the Sabre arf. By the way the f-16 looks great.
Kirk,
Just for kicks try the spike BV sells for the Sabre arf. By the way the f-16 looks great.
I've been comparing videos of the Skymater 1/8th scale F-16 with a P-70 to my video from the weekend and on the straight and levelI am getting the same performance with the EVF but I have more verticle than what I've seen so far.
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05-11-2010 | 03:44 PM
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RE: Sky Master F-16 Conversion and Facelift
A little off topic but what did you settle on (powertrain wise) for your Starfire? I want to do the same for mine. Its really light and I think perfect for edf.
Can you give me the complete list of items needed for the conversion?
Thanks,
Andy
Can you give me the complete list of items needed for the conversion?
Thanks,
Andy
05-11-2010 | 04:15 PM
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RE: Sky Master F-16 Conversion and Facelift
ORIGINAL: AndyAndrews
A little off topic but what did you settle on (powertrain wise) for your Starfire? I want to do the same for mine. Its really light and I think perfect for edf.
Can you give me the complete list of items needed for the conversion?
Thanks,
Andy
A little off topic but what did you settle on (powertrain wise) for your Starfire? I want to do the same for mine. Its really light and I think perfect for edf.
Can you give me the complete list of items needed for the conversion?
Thanks,
Andy
I ended up using the BVMEVF 5612 fan. I also used the BVM inlet adapter. Its a fiberglass adapter designed to fit the BVM fan in the ducting from the glow fan days. BVM no longer sells the EVF 5612 fan, it has been replacedwith the new EVF-2 fan. The EVF-2 is a few ounces lighter, produces 1/2 pound more thrust, and runs at a lower amp draw.
A list of things needed for the conversion:
- BVMEVF-2 fan (includes motor and controller) it's a true plug-and-play setup.
- BVMInlet adapter
- Batteries Thunder Power 12 cell45C 6400 mAh batteries
- Mylar to make an exhaust tube
Everything else was stock from the kit, including the glow fan ducting. Mine weighed 15 pounds ready to fly with batteries.
If I can help in any other way, please feel free to contact me.
Kirk
05-11-2010 | 05:35 PM
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ORIGINAL: k_sonn
Hi Andy,
I ended up using the BVM EVF 5612 fan. I also used the BVM inlet adapter. Its a fiberglass adapter designed to fit the BVM fan in the ducting from the glow fan days. BVM no longer sells the EVF 5612 fan, it has been replaced with the new EVF-2 fan. The EVF-2 is a few ounces lighter, produces 1/2 pound more thrust, and runs at a lower amp draw.
A list of things needed for the conversion:
- BVM EVF-2 fan (includes motor and controller) it's a true plug-and-play setup.
- BVM Inlet adapter
- Batteries Thunder Power 12 cell 45C 6400 mAh batteries
- Mylar to make an exhaust tube
Everything else was stock from the kit, including the glow fan ducting. Mine weighed 15 pounds ready to fly with batteries.
If I can help in any other way, please feel free to contact me.
Kirk
ORIGINAL: AndyAndrews
A little off topic but what did you settle on (powertrain wise) for your Starfire? I want to do the same for mine. Its really light and I think perfect for edf.
Can you give me the complete list of items needed for the conversion?
Thanks,
Andy
A little off topic but what did you settle on (powertrain wise) for your Starfire? I want to do the same for mine. Its really light and I think perfect for edf.
Can you give me the complete list of items needed for the conversion?
Thanks,
Andy
I ended up using the BVM EVF 5612 fan. I also used the BVM inlet adapter. Its a fiberglass adapter designed to fit the BVM fan in the ducting from the glow fan days. BVM no longer sells the EVF 5612 fan, it has been replaced with the new EVF-2 fan. The EVF-2 is a few ounces lighter, produces 1/2 pound more thrust, and runs at a lower amp draw.
A list of things needed for the conversion:
- BVM EVF-2 fan (includes motor and controller) it's a true plug-and-play setup.
- BVM Inlet adapter
- Batteries Thunder Power 12 cell 45C 6400 mAh batteries
- Mylar to make an exhaust tube
Everything else was stock from the kit, including the glow fan ducting. Mine weighed 15 pounds ready to fly with batteries.
If I can help in any other way, please feel free to contact me.
Kirk
05-11-2010 | 06:03 PM
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RE: Sky Master F-16 Conversion and Facelift
ORIGINAL: AndyAndrews
has anyone tried to use a SS turbine pipe for a thrust tube?
ORIGINAL: k_sonn
Hi Andy,
I ended up using the BVMEVF 5612 fan. I also used the BVM inlet adapter. Its a fiberglass adapter designed to fit the BVM fan in the ducting from the glow fan days. BVM no longer sells the EVF 5612 fan, it has been replacedwith the new EVF-2 fan. The EVF-2 is a few ounces lighter, produces 1/2 pound more thrust, and runs at a lower amp draw.
A list of things needed for the conversion:
- BVMEVF-2 fan (includes motor and controller) it's a true plug-and-play setup.
- BVMInlet adapter
- Batteries Thunder Power 12 cell45C 6400 mAh batteries
- Mylar to make an exhaust tube
Everything else was stock from the kit, including the glow fan ducting. Mine weighed 15 pounds ready to fly with batteries.
If I can help in any other way, please feel free to contact me.
Kirk
ORIGINAL: AndyAndrews
A little off topic but what did you settle on (powertrain wise) for your Starfire? I want to do the same for mine. Its really light and I think perfect for edf.
Can you give me the complete list of items needed for the conversion?
Thanks,
Andy
A little off topic but what did you settle on (powertrain wise) for your Starfire? I want to do the same for mine. Its really light and I think perfect for edf.
Can you give me the complete list of items needed for the conversion?
Thanks,
Andy
I ended up using the BVMEVF 5612 fan. I also used the BVM inlet adapter. Its a fiberglass adapter designed to fit the BVM fan in the ducting from the glow fan days. BVM no longer sells the EVF 5612 fan, it has been replacedwith the new EVF-2 fan. The EVF-2 is a few ounces lighter, produces 1/2 pound more thrust, and runs at a lower amp draw.
A list of things needed for the conversion:
- BVMEVF-2 fan (includes motor and controller) it's a true plug-and-play setup.
- BVMInlet adapter
- Batteries Thunder Power 12 cell45C 6400 mAh batteries
- Mylar to make an exhaust tube
Everything else was stock from the kit, including the glow fan ducting. Mine weighed 15 pounds ready to fly with batteries.
If I can help in any other way, please feel free to contact me.
Kirk
05-13-2010 | 11:03 AM
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RE: Sky Master F-16 Conversion and Facelift
ORIGINAL: AndyAndrews
I am assuming that BVM sells the mylar correct?
ORIGINAL: R_Belluomini
We use a rolled mylar sheet for the thrust tube.
We use a rolled mylar sheet for the thrust tube.
Or, you could get a roll of mylar from Taps Plastic and make your own. http://www.tapplastics.com/shop/product.php?pid=255
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05-13-2010 | 01:28 PM
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RE: Sky Master F-16 Conversion and Facelift
BVM custom cut one for Gunrad when he installed the EVF in his Byron F-16, so they could probably custom one for any jet if you give them the dimentions.
05-13-2010 | 03:06 PM
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BVM custom cut one for Gunrad when he installed the EVF in his Byron F-16, so they could probably custom one for any jet if you give them the dimentions.
BVM custom cut one for Gunrad when he installed the EVF in his Byron F-16, so they could probably custom one for any jet if you give them the dimentions.
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05-20-2010 | 03:26 PM
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This conversion was a proof of concept and I am happy with the level of performance of the BVM EVF in a 22 pound airframe after fixing just one of the three intake ducting issues. This airframe is 5 years old, has had three different power plants (P-70, TJ100, EVF 5612), and has had move damage repaired twice. The turbine intake ducting was replaced with the ducting for the TJ100, which has also been replaced with 120mm intake ducting and the airplane has been repainted. Because all of this has added weight and the newest version of the airframe is lighter out of the box than the version I have (when it came out of the box), I have decided to purchase a new airframe. When the new airframe arrives, I'll continue on where I left off.
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05-20-2010 | 06:18 PM
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Kirk - I really like the paint job on this one - you going to do it again on the new one?
I'm going to try to make it to Whidbey this year..........You mean your wife is going to let you go play with toys on the other side of the country???!!!
I'm going to try to make it to Whidbey this year..........You mean your wife is going to let you go play with toys on the other side of the country???!!!
05-21-2010 | 10:25 AM
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Kirk - I really like the paint job on this one - you going to do it again on the new one?
I'm going to try to make it to Whidbey this year..........You mean your wife is going to let you go play with toys on the other side of the country???!!!
Kirk - I really like the paint job on this one - you going to do it again on the new one?
I'm going to try to make it to Whidbey this year..........You mean your wife is going to let you go play with toys on the other side of the country???!!!
Cool. Whidbey is a great place to fly. Jets Over Whidbey is a great event to attend. It is truely a pilot's event with no vendors or sponsors. The wife doesn't mind if I go off to events across the country, but in this case I'm already in the Pacific Northwest. I returned for another contract.
Kirk
