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I-fly-any-and-all 01-18-2011 01:44 PM

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oooooooo lala

bigplumbs 01-18-2011 02:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: mnsi

Well,
If he has had 2 prior felony convictions for basically the same charges (theft and fraud) he falls under the '' 3 strikes and you are out''. Personally If I were him I would pay as if Joe C does persue this with the D.A and Dave does get another conviction he will most likely face life in prison. There was a landmark case in Texas in the mid 90's a man there upon his 3rd charge of passing a bad check was convicted for life with no chance of parole, this can also be looked up on the internet.

Joe, I would take advantage of these individuals help that live in MN and file charges on Dave A.S.A.P , and let the ball roll where it decides to go. He has had ample opportunity to make this right and in my opinion he is no different than any other serial predator out there, same M.O. just different victims.
Only in the USA !

I-fly-any-and-all 01-18-2011 02:47 PM

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Joe I do take it that you are legally pursuing this then?

Flame-out 01-18-2011 04:19 PM

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Joe C.,

I've previously learned that it's difficult to start a successful investigation by my local authorities by saying, "I know this guy in CA that is having a problem with a local resident". The complaint must be first-person rather than second-person or hearsay. The conversation really needs to start with your local authorities in CA.

However, (and here's the good part) once you file your complaint, there are at least three MN residents that are ready, willing and able to put pressure on the local authorities to follow up swiftly on the complaint.

We've read previous posts about law enforcement in other areas not willing to investigate complaints. It's easy for the authorities to add out-of-state letters and e-mail messages to the pile of corresponse that gets lost in the shuffle of their day-to-day local cases. BUT, it's a lot more difficult to ignore a local resident (who voted for them) sitting in their office asking some hard questions.

It's time to start the ball rolling at your end and then to rely on three MN Pit Bulls to keep it rolling! Keep us informed on the thread so we'll know when to follow up locally. I can't wait to ask a few questions: "What's happening on this complaint? How many detectives have been assigned to investigate? When can we expect to hear that this guy is sweating it out under the bright lights in the Interrogation Room?"

It's your ball, it's your court, we have strong jaws, and we're waiting for the command, "Sic Him!!"

FILE IFR 01-18-2011 04:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: bigplumbs

Only in the USA !

Nice post! :eek:

Not just in the USA. I'm sure there is a turd or two;) that live in your country as well.

With over 11k in views in the following link and being on the front page of RCU, I don't recall anyone posting the award-winning comment "Only in the UK!" http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_99...tm.htm#9986329

luckyy 01-18-2011 05:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: Joe C

Thank you all for your support, this is why we have a great hobby and there a few who like to hurt the hobby. Thanks Joe C!!!
Dont give up joe. I know its a pain in the butt. I just want you to get your parts and money back. If I can help let me know?

bigplumbs 01-19-2011 12:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: FILE IFR


ORIGINAL: bigplumbs

Only in the USA !

Nice post! :eek:

Not just in the USA. I'm sure there is a turd or two;) that live in your country as well.

With over 11k in views in the following link and being on the front page of RCU, I don't recall anyone posting the award-winning comment ''Only in the UK!'' http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_99...tm.htm#9986329

My point was a life sentance for the 3 strikes of passing a fake cheque............ That was what my 'Only in the US' comment was about.

Simply stupid in my view


AFTERBURNER1 01-19-2011 05:55 PM

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Has the thief contacted you Joe???? Payment in route??

Max_Power 01-19-2011 06:14 PM

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I agree its simply stupid bigplumbs ! They should hang them by the neck for doing it again after being forgiven twice!! :D Focusing on the subject at hand I too am hoping to hear soon that the payment is in route!

Shaun Evans 01-19-2011 09:15 PM

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LOL,

"Land of the Free.....Home of the Locked-Up..."

hairy46 01-21-2011 11:53 AM

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But the lock-ups are for the ones that do not live within the laws! What Shirley did to me is no better then someone stealing your car, using your credit cards after stealing them or anything like it! Maybe in someways worse when he took stuff sent and money after advertising he would do what was advertised for this amount of dollars and then not do anything but hide from you when you try and get your money and stuff back! What do you bet Shirley sold the stuff he stole from Joe as well!

Max_Power 01-22-2011 04:05 PM

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Yeah, they rarely just come lock folks up for no reason...Even though there are many locked-up that would have you believe that. :D I wonder if the Cessna is still around or not too. Either way I'm sure Joe can find a model he would love to have if it ends up being money he gets back instead of the original plane, There are so many nice planes out these days I can't imagine any of us would have a problem finding a cool model! :D

hairy46 01-22-2011 05:11 PM

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Yes nobodys guilty in the pen these days! My ex girlfriend had worked at the pen for along time and thats all she heard! She had a couple of them she thought was telling the truth till I showed her a book that had come out that showed the worst of the worst crimes and these guys were in it! One of the crimes was so bad that to this day still bothers me to think about it! But he was not guilty according to him! As far as planes i want them all!

tl671 01-22-2011 05:36 PM

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Then again placing that much trust in our judicial system is rather naive, don't you think? Unfortunately, my brother sits in jail for going on ten months for a crime that not only did he not commit, but that does not exist, on just the word of a psychopathic, vindictive, repeatedly proven liar.

Max_Power 01-22-2011 10:37 PM

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Well, in some cases the folks would have to be really unlucky a bunch of times in a row......for a 20+ year stretches. I think were safe in assuming given he already gave one very large refund without even speaking up to attest his innocence....Maybe he's just a really nice guy who was trying to figure out what to do with all that burdensome cash?[8D]

tl671 01-22-2011 11:25 PM

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Don't get me wrong, I am in no way defending this scumbag, just pointing out that our justice (I use this term very loosely) system is far from being even accurate, much less fair, or impartial. There have been plenty of cases where they executed people only to find out years later through D.N.A., and other methods that they sent an innocent person to death. It only takes one false murder conviction to get you death.

bigplumbs 01-23-2011 01:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: tl671

Don't get me wrong, I am in no way defending this scumbag, just pointing out that our justice (I use this term very loosely) system is far from being even accurate, much less fair, or impartial. There have been plenty of cases where they executed people only to find out years later through D.N.A., and other methods that they sent an innocent person to death. It only takes one false murder conviction to get you death.

I agree. Better a million guility people go free than execute a single innocent person

GSR 01-23-2011 07:04 AM

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Moderators - Please remove the recent posts that have nothing to do with this thread. Scotty

Shaun Evans 01-23-2011 07:21 AM

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Oops!

Did my "Land of the Free" comment get this line of discussion going? Sorry, Scotty! It was just a funny expression I heard once. BTW, there are PLENTY of innocent and/or falsely accused people sitting in jail, but I think we've established to the satisfaction of most that Mr. Schwanz is not one of them! I think his conduct is deplorable and even worse is his stupid taunting of Joe via email and such. What utter scum....

bevar 01-23-2011 07:32 AM

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Exactly...



ORIGINAL: YellowAircraft

Oops!

Did my ''Land of the Free'' comment get this line of discussion going? Sorry, Scotty! It was just a funny expression I heard once. BTW, there are PLENTY of innocent and/or falsely accused people sitting in jail, but I think we've established to the satisfaction of most that Mr. Schwanz is not one of them! I think his conduct is deplorable and even worse is his stupid taunting of Joe via email and such. What utter scum....

GSR 01-23-2011 08:08 AM

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We just dont need this thread carrening off into an innocents in jail jag. It needs to stay focused on the Schwantz. Scotty

hairy46 01-23-2011 09:15 AM

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Yes I agree back to the issue, SCUMBAG SHIRLEY!

bigplumbs 01-23-2011 11:01 AM

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Who is Shirley

hairy46 01-23-2011 11:17 AM

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Its short for David Schwantz, Because a real man would not do such a thing, Shirley seems to fit!

tl671 01-23-2011 11:32 AM

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Bigplumbs, how can you agree with me, I never said anything like that. Just pointing out that not everyone in prison deserves to be there, probably 99.5% do but nothing is 100%. yes our justice system sucks, but it still the best in the world, as sad as that is. Sorry to have been part of the hijacking of this thread, from here on out I will remain on topic.


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