RE: Comp ARF Flash update
 

So guys,
I am planning to use p120, does this mean there is no need for the bypass.[sm=50_50.gif]

RE: Comp ARF Flash update
 

Hi mart,

Correct. With the P120 don't bother with the bypass. You'll need the wing tank though.

rgds,
Mark

RE: Comp ARF Flash update
 

All,

I dissagree, you are given a bypass so why not take advantage of it. All the benefits are there whichever turbine you use.

Trevor Skedge.

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Trevor

Back of the net...

Of course you should use the full ducting...it will be faster and cooler.

My P120 powered example...the first in the world with full ducting continues to perform perfectly.

The resistance on wing fitting could be the velcro strap?

Dave Wilshere

RE: Comp ARF Flash update
 

Well, each to their own I guess. There is no "need" for it and Andreas and co at the factory have always said there is no need for it on the larger engines.

By all means fit it though if you want.

RE: Comp ARF Flash update
 

My Flash is almost finished!:)
This is my first jet, so I am very excited!
I used the full ducting.

My set-up:
-Jetcat P120
-2x JR8715 ailerons
-3x JR 8311 elevators/rudder
-3x Hitec 5945 flaps/NWS
-Emcotec BIC
-Jet 1A Landing gear

I replaced the stock thrust tube with a JetCat Titanium one, the weight difference is increcible!! 300 gram stock, 100 gram titanium (10.5 oz/3.5 oz).
Dry weight will be 9.7 Kilo (21.4 lbs)

RE: Comp ARF Flash update
 

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Mark,

Quite right unless of course you like speed, cooler turbines and no risk of FOD from inside the fuselage, ie screws, bolts, runway debris kicked up from the nosewheel into the wheel well/fuselage. Yes you can fit a FOD guard but the easy to fit bypass is the way to go and had it not been then Comp ARF wouldn`t have wasted time on it.

Trevor Skedge.

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Ill check again to see if it is the velcro straps. 1 other thing is mine came out tail heavy with a P-120. Not sure how bad yet but I can tell its going to take some nose weight. Does anyone have a pilot in theirs and if so what kind and where to get one. I figure a pilot will help put some weight in the front where its needed. Thanks again------------

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Jason , I just got a pilot for my flash, Its the Elite force pilot, you will have to cut the pilot off around the waist to fit. They are very realistic, and super detailed. I got the George Bush pilot from Rudytoys.com for 23.99, about two weeks ago. Good Luck.

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don't forget to put the screw in the steering servo arm will you!!

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Hi Guys, I have about 8 flights on my Flash now, with an Artes Falcon for power. I am really starting to like this Plane/Engine combo, It flies awesome!!. I was doing some maintenance yesterday and noticed that my bypass cover is very discolored at the rearward portion of the carbon covers. The carbon is now a grayish color and is slightly distorted from heat. Is this normal??, I am worried about it , I checked my Tailpipe to engine clearance and it is at the spec listed in the manual, the engine is perfectly centered, and I have never had a hot start. I also noticed that the top of the stab where the pipe passes over it has a little distortion from heat also , I put heat blanket and foil over that and it has been fine. I will post some pics tonight,Thanks for the Help, Jack.

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EEEERRRRRR no this is not normal. I have to agree though its a great plane mine has simjet 2300 power and also flies superb.

Ant

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Eagerly awaiting the arrival of my flash[sm=72_72.gif]Shouldn't be to long now [sm=teeth_smile.gif]

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Didier,

Nice to know you,re building this Jet!
Have much fun with it and take care of it!!!

Nickos

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Jack,

I would bet that you either had, or are still getting, hot starts. My Flash pipe runs VERY cool at the back end and if you've had heat damage to the top of the stab, something is/was wrong. Have you ever started the engine outside the airplane? Did you get a lot of flames on startup? I know the Jetcats have an initial pump voltage for startup that can be adjusted down if you are getting a lot of flames on startup. Do the Artes ECU's have such a parameter? If so, I'd turn it down.

I'd also take a good look at your pipe. If you've overheated it and its turned blue, it can collapse during flight and if it does, you'll likely loose the airplane...

Bob

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Hello Fellow Flash Owners,

Ok, I have a question that will most likely result in some flaming.;)

I too have a Flash. I was planning on putting a P120 in it. I am flying this set-up in another plane now.

However, I would like to know how you feel about a P160 or Rhino in the Flash. Yes, I already know what most will say. I have been researching this option for several days. The turbines themselves are the same weight. In fact, the Rhino appears to be lighter than a P120 based on the specs.

The main reason I am thinking seriously about this option is for another project I have coming up in the near future. I would like to use this set-up as a test bed and shift it over at a later date.

Can anyone comment, COMP-ARF Reps, etc, will the Flash hold-up? Any other known problems if I elected to go with this option?

A serious question looking for serious replies.

Thanks.

Ryan

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Ryan,

Overpowered airplanes only fly as fast as you let them, so as long as you use the left stick in a responsible manner, I think it will be fine. I know someone who has a Titan in a Flash, and its fast, but not as fast as the several Bandits (the kit ones, not the ARF's) with P-120's I've seen. Even the Bobcats with P-120's and the Kingcats with P-180's or Rhinos I've seen will probably be as fast, or faster than the Flash.

The Flash construction is very good in my opinion, but I believe that you could over-G it, or blow it apart with straight-line speed with one of those motors-particulary a Rhino. Just be careful and remember to be safe AND courteous to others on the flight line.

Bob

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Darcy Wingo did full throttle snap rolls with his Flash at CA Jets numerous times and it held together just fine. I do not believe you could destroy this airframe with any amount of possible g-force that occurs during flying.

RE: Comp ARF Flash update
 

I would think with enough power and abuse, any airframe can be fatigued enough to eventually fail in flight. JMO.

Marty

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Just wondering if someone could give me a price of what they got in the airframe, bypass, tailpipe, and fuel tanks. Thanks

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I've done full-power snaps with mine too, but its full power as you enter the snap, not a snap from a full-power speed run. If you cook this thing along at the 200+ MPH that would be possible with a Titan/Rhino and enter a full deflection snap roll, I'd bet a large sum of money that something's going to come off.

Bob

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The airframe, tailpipe, bypass, and the main fuel tank are included in the list price. I'm not sure what you're asking? [sm=confused.gif]

Bob

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Bob,

Thanks for your input and not "bashing" me. I am one who can def. control speed with the left stick, no problem. Of course, I would be concerned about the integrity of the construction, but top speed is not my motive. I presume the Flash will be able to handle either of these engines pretty well. It is how they are flown which will determine how well the airframe will hold up......if that makes sense.

You mentioned of someone with a Titan in the Flash. Is that holding up well? From someone who only has experience with JetCat's, is the Rhino really more powerful than the Titan? (You mention that in your post) Thanks again for the info.

Ryan

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Hi Ant, did you get your Long Marston radio issue sorted? I noticed on the day there were several people suffering 'lock out/failsafe' issues.

Rob.