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Forgues Research 04-14-2009 08:04 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 
WOW , the back channel response for my spark ignition system has been overwhelming. so I will be making it availlable , but no business done here, only back channel....

Thanks everyone...

Roger

George 04-14-2009 08:07 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 
;)

Forgues Research 04-14-2009 08:10 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 
By the way , I hope to get a video here within the next few days if I can get my buddy to help with his camera,

By the way you can check the build thread of my Turbo prop Laser here

http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/f...rop-build.html

Sorry guys its on Fly Gia , rcu won't let me post the link hmmmmm...

Roger

Gaspar 04-14-2009 02:40 PM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 

Just a short note on this subject:

As ecu manufacturer, we considered and tested the spark ignition some years ago to be included in the ecus. Ignition was OK, but the possibility that the high voltage could damage the electronic components in the ecu (happened during tests), forced us to reject the idea. For those who need a reliable glow plug ignition, we can offer a ceramic glow plug, very similar to the ones used in kerostart, but with a thinner element and less power. Compatible with ecus from software version 5.54 and up.

Gaspar


WrenTurbines 04-14-2009 02:49 PM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 
Please note that unauthorised modifications can invalidate your warranty on an engine - for example, Gaspar has said that the high voltage could cause damage to the ECU, and obviously neither Gaspar (as manufacturer of the ECU) nor Wren ( as manufacturer of the engine and retailer of the ECU) would cover you for this.

Sara Parish
Wren Turbines

Forgues Research 04-14-2009 03:45 PM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 
You all bring good points and thanks for bring them up, but so far with my design, I have made 10 starts with no problem whatsoever, and the starts are quick and solid

I know you have to cover your ass, and I understand that...


Roger

Forgues Research 04-16-2009 08:39 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 
OK guys , you asked for it, you got it, the turbine spark ignition will be availlable within the next two to three weeks.
This will be a plug and play.

After over 20 starts , there has been no problem , and easily starts first shot...

Check my web site for pricing or contact me directly.

Roger

PaulD 04-16-2009 09:10 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 
With Kero Start becoming more and more prevalent with the added advantage of a single fuel, I would say your product idea has a very limited lifecycle.

In my experience, I use the 10% rule- ie, in reality, only 10%of those who express interest will actually buy.

PaulD

SinCityJets 04-16-2009 09:12 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 


ORIGINAL: Forgues Research

OK guys , you asked for it, you got it, the turbine spark ignition will be availlable within the next two to three weeks.
This will be a plug and play.

After over 20 starts , there has been no problem , and easily starts first shot...

Check my web site for pricing or contact me directly.

Roger

Next time, just say "BUMP"

it's shorter...

Forgues Research 04-16-2009 09:28 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 


ORIGINAL: SinCityJets



ORIGINAL: Forgues Research

OK guys , you asked for it, you got it, the turbine spark ignition will be availlable within the next two to three weeks.
This will be a plug and play.

After over 20 starts , there has been no problem , and easily starts first shot...

Check my web site for pricing or contact me directly.

Roger

Next time, just say "BUMP"

it's shorter...

BUMP??? hmmm and that would mean??

Roger

Forgues Research 04-16-2009 09:31 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 


ORIGINAL: PaulD

With Kero Start becoming more and more prevalent with the added advantage of a single fuel, I would say your product idea has a very limited lifecycle.

In my experience, I use the 10% rule- ie, in reality, only 10%of those who express interest will actually buy.

PaulD

For those who know me, I develop things for my own need first . then if someone wants it, I will see if I can make it availlable.

I will test it for my own use, if it passes all test as I have done with my fiber optic servo extensions, then and only then will it be availlable.

So with this between my partner Hayes Hutchins and myself, we have enough turbines to use my first production run so its no problem.

A lot of propane start outhere ...

Roger

i3dm 04-16-2009 09:49 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 
forgues-research, what would be the price of the unit ?


Forgues Research 04-16-2009 10:46 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 


ORIGINAL: i3dm

forgues-research, what would be the price of the unit ?


Please go to my web site , I don't want to discuss prices here, or you can write privately

http://forgues-research.com

[email protected]

702 421 2925

Regards
Roger

Joe C 04-16-2009 11:39 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 
Looks like a good product, good luck with it. Joe C!!

Forgues Research 04-16-2009 11:42 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 


ORIGINAL: f16jc

Looks like a good product, good luck with it. Joe C!!

Thanks, as I said, as long as it works for me I'm a happy camper, but it won't make me the next millionaire on wall street LOLOLOL

Roger

causeitflies 04-16-2009 11:42 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 
Does it use a separate battery?

Forgues Research 04-16-2009 11:43 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 


ORIGINAL: causeitflies

Does it use a separate battery?

No , it uses the ECU battery...

Roger

Moerig 04-17-2009 08:48 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 
Do the plug fit in standard glowplug hole?

Forgues Research 04-17-2009 09:10 AM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 

ORIGINAL: Moerig

Do the plug fit in standard glowplug hole?

Yes it does, its a direct replacement. It is plug and play, very simple... No modification to the turbine or to the ECU..



Roger

Forgues Research 04-19-2009 05:16 PM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 
As an update,
I have done more then 25 starts with the spark ignition with perfects starts everytime, and no problems whatsoever to the turbine, or to the ECU

I will start shipping within a week...

Thanks for all the support

Roger

Boomerang1 04-19-2009 05:45 PM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 

WOW...... no more burnt glow plugs. I want one
If you can sell some units good luck to you.

But the first turbine I bought is still on the original glow plug after
3 years flying & lots & lots of flights.

At just $5 a glow plug this idea makes no sense to me.

It sounds like you have a more expensive, more complicated replacement
for something that works perfectly anyway.

Like I said, good luck, but I will not be lining up to buy one. - John.

Forgues Research 04-19-2009 05:50 PM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 


ORIGINAL: Boomerang1


WOW...... no more burnt glow plugs. I want one
If you can sell some units good luck to you.

But the first turbine I bought is still on the original glow plug after
3 years flying & lots & lots of flights.

At just $5 a glow plug this idea makes no sense to me.

It sounds like you have a more expensive, more complicated replacement
for something that works perfectly anyway.

Like I said, good luck, but I will not be lining up to buy one. - John.


hahahahahaha, I didn't have you on my list of customers!!!! you are one of the lucky ones, hang on to your good luck glow plug, but many are changing plugs too often.

Roger

rjbob 04-19-2009 08:31 PM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 
Have you had the opportunity to test it on several different turbines/ ECUs yet?

Forgues Research 04-19-2009 10:30 PM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 

ORIGINAL: rjbob

Have you had the opportunity to test it on several different turbines/ ECUs yet?

No I haven't but I am sending a few units to my buddy and co developper, Hayes Hutchins, in Alabama, he has Wren turbines and other makes also

but basically, they will all the work the same because of the way I have done this.

As I said , there are no modifications to either the ECU or the turbine aside from replacing the glow plug with the spark plug .

Roger

Forgues Research 04-28-2009 05:51 PM

RE: spark ignition for turbines
 
Here is the spark ignition video I did for U tube.

So far 35 starts and everything still running to perfection.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGr8apHhZHo

Roger


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