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Old 03-21-2006 | 07:04 PM
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Reading this thread reminds me of when my friend got into nitro about 6 months ago. He came over my house and I showed him my t-maxx and he was amazed by it. The next day he calls me and says he went to the lhs and bought a t-maxx. So anyway, I helped him break it in and get it running. He liked it and all but I'd say just about every time he ran it he'd break something. Whether he crashed it or a freak accident something always broke. I ended up fixing his truck a bunch of times. He spent tons of money on it and never had as much fun as me with my t-maxx with 1 or 2 hop ups. So after having such a bad experience with nitro, he went to electric minis. I dont personally like them, but hey he likes it and atleast hes not giving up on the hobby. I'd say his t-maxx probably hasn't been run in about 4 months so his engine probably has rust inside the motor and now it's probably shot) So yea nitro can be tuff on the newbies.

By the way, I'm 14 and run 4 nitros. 1 is a car (Nitro 4-tec) 2 trucks(t-maxx 2.5 with OS .18tm/ Losi Lst2) and 1 nitro boat(proboat shockwave 36) The hardest time I had tuning was when my t-maxx had the 2.5 in it. It was my first truck and like all newbies I probably f*cked it up during break-in but all my nitros after that had not had a problem. Just remember to read the manual and be pacient! Every thing takes time. I also have some electrics but they're not nearly as fun as my nitros!

(No offence to my friend if he reads this post)
Old 03-22-2006 | 09:31 AM
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....atleast hes not giving up on the hobby.
Much emphasis on that part. There are good and bad when newbs quit. Bad: one less soldier for the war. Good: more yardsale parts for us .
Old 03-22-2006 | 08:53 PM
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HELL YA batteries are for toys. buy brand new so you know what has been done to it i had a tmaxx that i bought used and the same thing happend to me.

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rcjunkie50 is right nitro takes patients i learned pretty guick but i almost wanted to burn my first truck going from wall mart cars to nitro you just need to find a good starter truck that you like traxxas nitro sport is really great for starter i first had the old nitro hawk and went from that to a t-maxx in a year it is all just for fun dont get so mad about it and try to learn
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Also that happened to me with my nitro hawk the batteries went dead it hit a huge square curb adn blew off the exhaust and my maxx has done it before to
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ahhhh, the horror stories of nitro. Best advice, take it to the track. For real. The guys and gals are more than willing to help out. They do at my track and to many others around my state that Ive been to.
My hyper 8 buggy done the same thing, it took off. Seeing 1000 dollar car run like a scalded dog towards a 4x4 post wasnt the best day in my nitro years. It turned out the servo gears stuck and wouldnt allow the throttle or fail safe unit to return it back to the preset possition.
Thats my story. And if I were you, try a hobby shop or your local track, most other racers are nice enough to help. Good luck.
Old 07-13-2006 | 07:55 PM
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This tread is over a year old. Nothing like rasing the dead. Batteries are not for toys they are for receivers and transmitters.
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46u, I was gonna say the same thing, but I forgot that I'm a forum troll with no purpose aside from trying to get my post count up
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Shamefull !
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46u, I was gonna say the same thing, but I forgot that I'm a forum troll with no purpose aside from trying to get my post count up
And you are just a yougen as well. Talking about what that one guy said.
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lesson learned here... why buy traxxas? avoid all this trouble and stress... buy a real rc... like rc10gt.
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Man there is some false information about electrics in this thread, amazing the rc community still can't consider the two even. First off, 5 minute runtimes, lol, that might have been true in 1987 when you guys were running Tamiya Grasshoppers, but today we have 12,000 mah batteries which can give a good 1-3 hours depending on how you drive. I also find it funny you guys are still saying nitro gets better run time, thats a completely false statement. The average nitro's runtime is 15 minutes, where the average battery pack runtime is 25 minutes. Granted you can REFILL faster, but re-filling would mean your replinishing the source of power, which would be the equivelant of me hooking up a fresh battery. Neither extend runtime, as runtime is the time it takes for your source of power to operate continuously before a replinishment of energy is required.
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I was getting 15 minute runtimes back in the day with my 27t HPI RS4 Rally with 2000mah NiCds.

IMAGINE what i woulda been getting with a silver can and 2400s
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Man there is some false information about electrics in this thread, amazing the rc community still can't consider the two even. First off, 5 minute runtimes, lol, that might have been true in 1987 when you guys were running Tamiya Grasshoppers, but today we have 12,000 mah batteries which can give a good 1-3 hours depending on how you drive. I also find it funny you guys are still saying nitro gets better run time, thats a completely false statement. The average nitro's runtime is 15 minutes, where the average battery pack runtime is 25 minutes. Granted you can REFILL faster, but re-filling would mean your replinishing the source of power, which would be the equivelant of me hooking up a fresh battery. Neither extend runtime, as runtime is the time it takes for your source of power to operate continuously before a replinishment of energy is required.

I do think nitro rules on grass for run time. I have never tried Lipo but on grass there is no way I have been able to match run time. All so on my nitro if I want more run time I just put in a bigger fuel tank and most of my nitro get WELL over 20 minutes depending how I drive. All so IMO electric just does not have any sole. I was thinking about taking an electric and putting in a sound system to make it where there was a motor noise. But I do agree they are all good and it has to do with personal preference.
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I do think nitro rules on grass for run time. I have never tried Lipo but on grass there is no way I have been able to match run time. All so on my nitro if I want more run time I just put in a bigger fuel tank and most of my nitro get WELL over 20 minutes depending how I drive. All so IMO electric just does not have any sole. I was thinking about taking an electric and putting in a sound system to make it where there was a motor noise. But I do agree they are all good and it has to do with personal preference.
The whole sound thing is debateable, personally you cant make a sleeper nitro truck though, where as the quietness of the electric allows you to throw in a low turn brushless system and a nice li-po, where the competitor would never know what your packing...of course until they challenge you in a race. True you can put in a bigger fuel tank, but theres only so much room for that, where as we can just add a high capacity cell. I also read someone talking about that cost of batteries, even one $50 battery is less then the cost of two gallons of nitro fuel, so your looking at around 200 good hours of use on that battery pack, dont think I could say the same with two gallons of nitro fuel. Also consider unlike nitro fuel, there are cheaper alternatives from batteries, starting around $20 and up, but as with ANYTHING in this hobby, you get what you pay for.
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At this moment as far as weather goes... you guys are insane to be out running ANYTHING. Electronics would fail here in minnesota, and engines would be extremely finicky at the moment too. In the past 5 minutes, the temp here has risen 3 degrees, and its still climbing steadily at 93 degrees. Oops, it just jumped .3 degrees as i typed this sentance.
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it's 115 out and i'll still run anything i own. won't hurt nothin.
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ORIGINAL: Kemo

lesson learned here... why buy traxxas? avoid all this trouble and stress... buy a real rc... like rc10gt.

you bastered!!!! lol jk but dont be bashing the rustlers, and i dont know why ppl will die by there rc10gts... its not better then the rustler really.. its how you drive.
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I've had a nitro Rusty, a nitro sport, and an RC10GT, and the Rc10GT is by far the superior truck. I'm not saying the Rusty/Sport is crap...it's just not as good as the GT MHO.
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Man there is some false information about electrics in this thread, amazing the rc community still can't consider the two even. First off, 5 minute runtimes, lol, that might have been true in 1987 when you guys were running Tamiya Grasshoppers, but today we have 12,000 mah batteries which can give a good 1-3 hours depending on how you drive. I also find it funny you guys are still saying nitro gets better run time, thats a completely false statement. The average nitro's runtime is 15 minutes, where the average battery pack runtime is 25 minutes. Granted you can REFILL faster, but re-filling would mean your replinishing the source of power, which would be the equivelant of me hooking up a fresh battery. Neither extend runtime, as runtime is the time it takes for your source of power to operate continuously before a replinishment of energy is required.

hmmm, does "RC Nitro Stadium trucks" mean anything? the majority of the guys here run nitro for whatever reason.. for me, it's lack of bs involved with batteries, amperage, and all that electrical crap!!! I don't do it, don't desire to learn it and probably won't...


for the original guy...

hang in there dude... the best thing you can do with your stuff is find a closet, throw it in there for a week or two.. then pull out the engine manual, read it.. pull out the truck, set the engien back to factory settings and then retune... the time away will do you good, and get your frustration straight..

believe me, I did this a couple of weeks ago, when I pulled everything out, everything ran (which does piss me off) but I'm thinking the break cleared my head to see things easier..
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I will not harp on which is better as it is personally preference but I will prove which is more popular as all you have to do is look in this form and see how many threads, and post are in each one. Looks like about 4 to 1 or more.
Old 07-15-2006 | 06:23 AM
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lol i remember first nitro car was a smartech complete garbage lol the car took off with a FAILSAFE in it on a city street into a car wheel and get going i had to jump on the car nearly burned my whole kneecap. But nitro takes patience there has beens days where i want to throw the truck at the wall and days where car runs perfect. but let me tell you it is much better then using a nikko 9.6 about 12 years ago with 15 min run times then wait 4 hours to charge lol
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ORIGINAL: EdsWords

For racing, electric is cheaper, but for bashing I think nitro is less expensive. I used to be basher but now I'm mostly racing so running tank after tank after tank isn't terribly important to me.

You can buy 5-6 stock motors for what one single nitro engine costs. I have a 5 year old Cyclone ESC in my T4 right now and it still works great. The same cannot be said about nitro engines and their carbs.

One matched battery pack for the race $60 and one $40 pack for practie will last as long if not longer than 3 gallons of nitro (which is up to almost $30 a gallon now).

Nitro still has a a huge advantage in run time and I wil conceed that point. But, Roar has just legalized brushless motors for racing. It wont be long now before brushless motors and li-po batteries make 20 minute mains a possibility.

I prefer electric but I still like nitro. What I don't like is the " I hate all electric vehicles because they suck" mentality thats pouring out of this thread.

Come on nitro guys, batteries are more than just for servos and glo plugs and starter boxes! .
HMMM getting 2 batteries to last as long as 3 gallons of nitro? Gee either you have super batteries to hold a charge that long(?) or are you talking about the time you can use them before you have to replace them? (replacing batteries every 3 weeks? Pretty damn expensive if you ask me)
Also I don't know where you are buying Nitro at but I only pay $22 for Byrons here in Texas.
You don't like seeing the electric bashing in this thread but bashing the nitro's is ok????


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wow ur paying to much i live in east texas i only pay 13 a gallon for riches brew and it seems to keep my traxxas trucks calm (not jumpy) and cool also works great with the gold piston im using witch helps keep my t maxx cool. so forabout 26 bucks i can have 2 gallons of fuel go out to corpus and BASH or goto galveston to the cement park and BASH.
not saying i live close to the beach cause i dont i just love going there to run my nitros
a mini-t however can be pimp by putting a mamba in it like mine and a 3 cell lipo but it still cant hold up agensit a nitro on the dirt
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Hey I'm the same age as you and I went through the same problems but with a Jato. It took me 6 months before I even got the thing to run. Beleive me, I was just as angry as you were. Then it kept on stalling and I was going to sell it and get a brushless e-maxx, but then I decided to ask some questions and do some research and I got the thing to run very reliably. Now I'm glad that I did that cuz nitro is a million times more fun that electric. Now I am very happy with it cuz its so much faster and more fun than any other electric truck I have seen. Just give nitro another chance and don't give in. You won't regret it!!

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