Hi Brian,

Were? Pity? Not sure what you mean by this?

Yes, that's how I interpret the rules to be.

I haven't seen a revised judges list yet.

Hi Scott,
Yes I can see the problem with my phrasing !
Rephrased ;
Are/were you the Aus,, reserve judge.
If you were and if now your not - that would be a pity.
If you still are - good.
Are you going, regardless ?

Brian

I am the reserve judge for Australia only. If the Australian judge is cut, then I would no longer be reserve. I haven't heard one way or the other yet.

No, I won't be going to this one.

Scott,
That is what I was 'assuming'.
If there are 79 entries the 10 judges will be busy !!

Brian

I have also heard only 10 judges because of the entry.

Chad

I think the possibility of adverse weather conditions may have affected entry numbers?

A few have predicted it to be quite windy. Wait and see now.

I heard the entry was in the mid 70's, in 2007 I believe it was 78, so that would be comparable. I just think its a long trip and a bad time of year for many countries.

Most of the WC I have been too have been windy lol, maybe this one will be calm haha.

Chad

Judges List.

Judges
1 Mario Vagliente Argentina
2 John Brann Australia
3 Norbert Polatschek Austria
4 Pierrre Pignot France
5 Gianluigi Giannoni Italy
6 Ken Hirose Japan
7 Dietrich Altenkirch Germany
8 Javier Santa Maria Spain
9 Daniela Schmitter Switzerland
10 Don Ramsey USA
Reserve 01 Tom Erik Sorensen Norway

So now there are only 10 judges, looks like the one reserve is reserve for all now. That would explain why I received an email and John didn't. Emails only sent to those judges that are no longer required.

I was surprised no one posted information or pictures of the event here on RCU. In any case Hartley Hughson from Canada posted some information on his Facebook page for you Facebook users.
https://www.facebook.com/HartleyHughsonThey are midway through the preliminary rounds.
The event website also has the scores but the link does not work for everyone (including not for me).

I hope this trend reverses in the future. Belongs to Gernot Bruckmann one of the top pilots. Gone are the days of the sleek sexy looking pattern ships. And I do not mean the classic pattern ships but just going back 5-10 years. Will FAI ever reverse the trend again? Turnaround yes but reduce the amount of snaps and stick to large beautiful figures.

Hi Freddy,
Unfortunately, I think the days of the large beautiful figures are somewhat gone. The current WC has pilots flying large figures, but it is almost in slow motion. Nice to watch, but even more work to fly. The current large fuselage designs are a product of the constant speed judging criteria and the movement towards a significant portion of the maneuvers being flown in knife-edge; so you need a flying fuselage. I think the next rules adjustment for F3A will be a 2 meter cube.

2 meter cubed! Funny one but true.
For now I stick to my Valiant. Bryan Hebert still designs gorgeous looking airplanes that work well. I only fly the P17 the F's are just way too much effort for me to put time into at this point where I am in the hobby.
Greetings from Brazil! Right up the street of the current worlds Argentina. Check out the nice 1 km real airfield runway I get to fly at once in a while. PS - I competed in the 2007 F3A worlds in Argentina (different city further North).

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/elec...mpionship.html

BIG, BULBOUS, and BEAUTIFUL!!!
Funny that you posted this; my wife picked out the Proteus at the USA Nats this year as the plane she liked the best.....after seeing Gernot's Pandora, well, it's growing on me. It's just so wild looking! If I Could buy one.....

2007 wasn't that much fun either. We flew on a commercial airport's taxiway, always crosswind.

Adrian

No, the next step will be 4D maneuvers requiring reversible prop pitch and such, in other words just like a big indoor toy. As far as slow? Well it's gotten to be totally boring, I'd much rather see AJ do snaps that look like snaps, quick and precise, vs. a CPLR snap. Until I saw him fly, I didn't realize it was possible for a snap to encompass the length of the whole box. Those used to be called "slow rolls"......

I know this may be a can of worms but what we currently do in pattern is not what I would call a snap roll. I seriously doubt that the airplanes enter any amount of stall. The fact that we are able to stop rotation instantly by simply releasing the sticks tells me that the wing is flying the whole time.

Yes and no. If the rotation rate is only about 360deg/sec and you go into it at about 80km/hr then the 1/2span section outwards would be seeing about 8+ degrees angle of attack, the tip would be seeing about 16 deg. Throw in some minor pitching and you've probably got about an outer 1/3rd of the wing panel "stalled".

I do believe though that loading up the wing before commencing the rotation should be required, because the increase in roll rate should come from the imbalance of lift (stalled panel vs unstalled panel) not from increased aileron throw..

I also believe snap rolls have no place in pattern whatsoever....but....

BJR 93TZ - I like your thinking . I have read some of your posts through the years. I have been in this hobby since 1975 and F3A since about 1980 of and on. Yes F3A is going towards the indoor and 3D trend. I say dear FAI members. Stick to F3A. Smooth and graceful. Like watching the Blue Angels, Thunderbirds. If you wanna fly 3D go to IMAC and indoors. And yes long live YS!! Thank you for those machines Mr. Yamada-san. I met him in 2009 at the Portugal F3A worlds.

The thing is, the really slow have not won a WC(World Championship) yet, the new World Champion Onda, does not fly slow, CPLR the best ever, does not fly slow, Jason and Andrew do not fly slow either, and they are as good as Onda a CPLR, but in a WC(World Cup) in Europe, things are different, as long as the slow ones are the best in that contest, so there is still a lot of the good speed and grace that are liked be judges, and remember, how slow can you be if at the end you have a time limit? it will never be as boring as F3P got (I hope).

Bruckner looked like his Pandora flew very slowly in the pre-contest videos. How did he fly in the finals in the strong cross wind? Did he fly faster? It would seem that trying to fly very slowly in extreme wind conditions would make the pilot work a lot harder to maintain geometry (and precision).

At the World Championships in Muncie I watched Gerhard Mayer fly one of the preliminary rounds where there wasn't much wind and seeing how slow he could fly and still have amazing control of his airplane was great.

did you see the team placing 😊😂🇳🇿🇳🇿

You are a funny man Hamish.........

Never the less a very good effort by all and a big Congrats to the kiwis.


regards