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Old 08-16-2006, 07:50 PM
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Starting on August 26th, the Euro F3A championships in Lucern, Switzerland. Web site for the championship can be found at

http://www.em06.ch/

I just hope they post good information and pictures...

Old 08-17-2006, 04:46 AM
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I just hope they post good information and pictures...
You might also wan't to check out http://f3a.fi/ec2006/ We'll try to get some pictures posted there during the championships. Depends on available connections etc. First ones can be expected around August 25th (practice day).
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Don't forget the Continental Asian Oceanic Championships too! F3A entering full swing.

http://www.rc-tech.co.jp/2006CAOCC_index.html

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I just hope they post good information and pictures...


They're Swiss, that'll mean you'll need to recalibrate your meaning of good.
Good there, is normally off the scale superb everywhere else.
Have you seen the pdf info regarding the practice sites?
Do they have it organized?
Oh yes.

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Hi friends

Well, we will also try to post some photos and details in www.f3a-israel.com.

Kimmo, I heard a lot of good things about your team form the Israelis that were in WC2005.

I hope to meet you and your team at the practice field.


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I was just looking at some of the picture material on the site and it struct me just how light years ahead the Beryll looks.
These two pice where next to each other... the Pinnacle looks stone aged comparison.
The Beryll has got to be the most interesting model for years.
The Matts family sure know a thing or two.
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Heres another, side by side. What a difference.
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Old 08-26-2006, 05:16 AM
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Hello
A lot of plane with électric motor Prestige, Impression and others.
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First day of preliminaries is behind us. It has been raining the whole day and according to a newsletter by the organizers, no better weather is expected until on thursday. Anyway the first round has been flown. The field is turning to mud and tomorrow we're going to go and buy some rubber boots. Our planes, clothes and all equipment except the transmitters are wet and drying in our hotel room. Other than that, a great first day of competition ;-)

If Youre interested on the used equipment, a quick calculation from the pilots introduction on the leaflet given to teams on arrival show there are about 25 pilots flying the Hacker, 18 with YS 4-strokes and 7 with OS 2-strokes. One Webra 145, one SM-30 petrol engine, one Plettenberg outrunner, one Cyclon and one Axi. The ratio of electrics to internal combustion is about 50/50.
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Uh-oh... Not so good weather out there... Buochs is about in the middle of that map.

(Too bad someone invented work, but I'll be heading to Buochs on Friday and Saturday).
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ORIGINAL: Kimmo Kaukoranta
It has been raining the whole day and according to a newsletter by the organizers, no better weather is expected until on thursday. Anyway the first round has been flown. The field is turning to mud and tomorrow we're going to go and buy some rubber boots.
I have a couple of F3A-sized floats in case anyone needs... (See my Avatar)

Hopp Schwiiz and a big welcome to all competitors at the EC

-Fabrizio
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Rankings from the first rounds....

Looks like CPLR pulled a rabbit out of the hat on #3.....same score he got in France that blew everyone away!

http://www.em06.ch/ranking/liste.pdf
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Hello
Ranking after 3 flights
1 PAYSANT-LE ROUX Christophe FRA 1000.00 1000.00 980.16
2 MATT Roland LIE 1000.00 987.44 1000.00
3 CARRIER Stéphane FRA 996.83 996.83 880.85
4 ZEINER Markus AUT 987.91 987.91 889.87
5 SILVESTRI Sebastiano ITA 980.52 960.28 980.52
6 DANKSAGMUELLER Helmut AUT 970.16 970.16 840.54
7 RUBIN Marc SUI 959.53 959.53 863.81
8 WISSINGER Markus GER 953.32 953.32 892.02
9 PAYSANT-LE ROUX Benoît FRA 946.71 946.71 936.03
10 MATT Wolfgang LIE 937.79 937.79 911.37
11 PRAT Isaac ESP 929.24 929.24 844.69

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Papone

Did you normalize the scores yourself?

Its not fair to normalize and compare after three rounds because not everyone has flown the same rounds....for instance you have RM with 1000 in two rounds, but the round he 1000's in CPLR has not flown yet!

Much better to just compare raw scores until the end, after the computer normalizes and does TBL!

Here are the 3 round raws.

1 PAYSANT-LE ROUX Christophe FRA 1834.00 585.20 618.00 630.80 0.00
2 MATT Roland LIE 1802.20 577.00 628.00 0.00 597.20
3 SILVESTRI Sebastiano ITA 1779.40 562.00 617.60 599.80 0.00
4 PAYSANT-LE ROUX Benoît FRA 1728.40 552.80 594.40 0.00 581.20
5 ZEINER Markus AUT 1699.00 577.40 565.60 0.00 556.00
6 CARRIER Stéphane FRA 1698.80 583.40 561.20 0.00 554.20
7 MATT Wolfgang LIE 1692.60 548.00 576.00 0.00 568.60
8 WISSINGER Markus GER 1680.60 566.40 570.60 0.00 543.60
9 DANKSAGMUELLER Helmut AUT 1679.00 567.40 537.20 574.40 0.00
10 RUBIN Marc SUI 1657.60 560.60 550.20 0.00 546.80
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Hello Chad
You're right. At the end of 4 flights we 'll get the ranking.
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Results after the prelims,


1 MATT Roland LIE 2995.02 987.44 1000.00 1000.00 995.02
2 PAYSANT-LE ROUX Christophe FRA 2990.42 1000.00 980.16 990.42 1000.00
3 SILVESTRI Sebastiano ITA 2903.56 960.28 980.52 919.91 962.75
4 PAYSANT-LE ROUX Benoît FRA 2850.40 946.71 936.03 936.08 967.61
5 CARRIER Stéphane FRA 2840.15 996.83 880.85 906.96 936.37
6 MATT Wolfgang LIE 2831.61 937.79 911.37 945.87 947.96
7 ZEINER Markus AUT 2829.38 987.91 889.87 924.07 917.40
8 DANKSAGMUELLER Helmut AUT 2792.77 970.16 840.54 899.03 923.58
9 WISSINGER Markus GER 2758.76 953.32 892.02 901.33 904.11
10 MAYR Gerhard AUT 2737.65 899.99 907.10 863.68 930.56
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http://www.em06.ch/ranking/p4/liste.pdf for the complete list. No team list yet, but it doesn't take much to find out (provided I punched in the right numbers in my calculator...):
1. FRA 8680.97
2. LIE 8451.56
3. AUT 8359.8
4. ITA 8307.90

It looks to me that:
- the duel is between CPLR and RM, others are quite a bit behind these two. These two are stellar, no other word to describe them. I *wish* I'd once have a score sheet that looked at least partly like one of those...
- Austria is going very strong as a team, as is Italy (not necessarily to be expected)
- IMHO Germany and Switzerland with good results but not so good as they might have expected, especially Germany
- The Matt's are fantastic, as are the *PLR brothers.

Will be there on saturday (no friday) and hopefully report from the "battlefield"... Now where did I leave my rubber boots...

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Hello Fabrizio
Have you list of patterns and engines in relation with pilots of the top ten as example
CPLR / Oxalys / Yam 160 DZ ....
Thanks
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Terrible shame about the weather, looks just dreadfull.
I'd hate to have to go out and fly when it's raining... never mind having to pull off a great flight when the pressures really on like it's been with the top 2.
Judging from the pics, folks must be breaking cloud base. Is this happening occassionally?
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Hello Fabrizio
Have you list of patterns and engines in relation with pilots of the top ten as example
CPLR / Oxalys / Yam 160 DZ ....
Thanks
Claude
Salut Claude,

sorry no information yet but as I said I will be there on saturday for the finals and hopefully post all info I might catch when I return (on monday).

-Fabrizio
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ORIGINAL: bla bla
Terrible shame about the weather, looks just dreadfull.
That's central Switzerland: they say they have 1 or 2 weeks of summer, everything else is closer to autumn or winter... It's a pity, because here in sothern Switzerland we've had to most beautiful weather throughout the week. That's the effect of the Alps: the mountains act as a natural barrier - one could say almost a different country, yet only 170 km in distance.

-Fabrizio
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Have you list of patterns and engines in relation with pilots of the top ten as example
CPLR / Oxalys / Yam 160 DZ ....
Here's what the semifinalist are using, as far as we know. Part of the information from the brochure and part from what we have seen on the field, there may be mistakes. Roland Matt and Christophe are flying after each other in the semifinals tomorrow, it will be interesting!

1 MATT Roland LIE - Beryll + Hacker C50 XL Comp
2 PAYSANT-LE ROUX Christophe FRA - Oxalys + YS170DZ
3 SILVESTRI Sebastiano ITA - Angel S + Hacker C50 XL Comp
4 PAYSANT-LE ROUX Benoît FRA - Oxalys + YS170DZ
5 CARRIER Stéphane FRA - Oxalys + YS170DZ
6 MATT Wolfgang LIE - Beryll + Hacker C50 XL Comp
7 ZEINER Markus AUT Impression - YS160DZ
8 DANKSAGMUELLER Helmut AUT - Pinnacle + YS160DZ
9 WISSINGER Markus GER - Own design/manufacturing "Dream Theater II" + Hacker C50 XL Comp
10 MAYR Gerhard AUT YS160DZ Own design/manufacturing "Daggrom" + YS160DZ

11 RUBIN Marc SUI - Onyx + Hacker C50 XL Comp
12 BRESCI Andrea ITA- Impression + YS160DZ
13 SCHADEN Bernhard SUI - Twister + YS170DZ
14 LAMMEL Christian GER - Impression + Hacker C50 XL Comp
15 PRAT Isaac ESP - Angel's Shadow E + Hacker C50 15XL
16 FREMMING Ola NOR - Oxalys + OS140RX-EFI
17 GRASSELLI Andrea ITA - Impact + Hacker C50 XL Comp
18 ULSAMER Günther GER - Excalibur + Hacker C50 XL Comp
19 MARQUET Philippe BEL - Beryll + Hacker C50 XL Comp
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Newsflash!

Kimmo phoned a moment ago and told that Stéphane Carrier had crashed on the 1st semifinal round :-(
Fail safe went on in the triangular loop (?) near the end of the schedule. The flight had been really nice before that.

Raimo Ruokonen
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The semifinals came to an dramatic end. The last flight of the second round was again Stephan Carrier, now flying his B model. Sometime in the middle of the program the plane just continued at medium throttle straigth out of site. After a while the control partly returned for a while, the plane did some curves and then dived straigth into ground. Luckily nobody was hurt in the accident.

The same frequency was used by three other pilots and they did not have any problems. Stephan was using a different transmitter on his second flight so that was not the problem. He was using an short type antenna instead of the normal telescopic antenna which may or may not have something to do with it.

A real shame, the youngest pilot in the semifinals, beautiful flying and two magnificent ZN built models totally lost.

The finalists are:
1. CPLR FRA
2. Roland Matt LEI
3. Sebastiano Silvestri ITA
4. BPLR FRA
5. Gerhard Mayer AUT
6. Wolfgang Matt LIE
7. Markus Zeiner AUT
8. Benhard Shaden SUI
9. Helmut Daksamueller AUT
10. Marc Rubin SUI
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Kimmo,

thanks for the update. I'm planning on coming tomorrow: do I still need rubber boots? Is it still wet?

Austrian team still going very strong, as is the Swiss team (2 pilots in the finals, not bad!). Too bad for Carrier, but he's young and we will sure hear of him again in the near future...

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