Hi everybody,

It's a long time I'm searching for these famous Japanese wood support.
For me they are the safest and best looking I ever see
you know these one

http://rosa.web.infoseek.co.jp/pitnotomo3.html
I tried to contact them, no answer ![]

or

http://www.flighthobby.jp/cgi-local/..._id=38&disp=on
Anyway second one is way too expensiveand some years ago they told me, they didn't export outside Japan.

Who will be able to produce these wood support (same shape and quality) at a decent price in Europe or USA. (allez JP SVP)

Don't say Papini in Italy, he's not answering at all.[&o]

Thk's for cooperation

That's a slick set up. Seems to me that the first set of pics should be enough to build your own, sized appropriately to fit your aircraft. Nothing fancy there, once the concept is sorted. Just some 1/4" plywood, a few fasteners and a bit of piano hinge will do the trick.


Mark

how about this from ultra RC?

http://www.ultra-rc.com/store/photos_fb.html

Yes mmattockx,
nothing special for the wood itself and that will be my latest option if I don't find it on the web.
I'll try first with strong paper to verify geometry and functionality.

Also did you ever tried to glue some "isolation rubber" on wood. It's never working.

Yes I knew this one, But It's not as "compatible" as the japanese one. Also the thickness of the rubber is quite different.

I have used sticky backed foam for sealing around doors as padding on stands before with no real problems. Not as pretty as these, but functional... If it's the glue issue holding you back, just build one and try a few different foams until you get the right one. All you have to lose is a couple of nights work and the cost of a chunk of plywood... My best guess on the glue would be a polyurethane glue like the Elmer's Pro Bond or Gorilla glue. Stuff sticks almost anything to anything.


Mark

Flylulu try www.hobbynet-jp.com , GOOD FAST SERVICE, send him a picture and ask if he has something similar,

THX
Gerrie

Flylulu, I want this too! Please post here if you get lucky.

Guttorm

No problem Boysnake ! I'll do

Hi Gerrie.

I had a quick look on the hobbynet website from up to down left to right NOTHING. Anyway thk's for the adress.

It's a long time I'm looking for these products.
My point of view: why spend thousands of $ in a wonderful Japanese ARF if you don't spend some $ to protect them when you assemble the A/C or start the engine. Also with this stupid thing A/C will never move into yours legs if you have no helper.

So I'm ready to spend a reasonable price.

The problem if you do it yourself, will be a "lot" of retro-engineering to have, I think, an average copy. (not the good soft material, greometry not as good, loosy assembly, ...). I'm also bored to do one support for each A/C, taking place in my workshop and destroying fuselage, wings, ... when moving in my car.

Some already tried, look there : http://www.raoulpapini.it/news.htm "IL PORTAMODELLO"

I think soft material is too thin, they will destroy LE and anyway they don't answer....

Keep in touch

Laurent

Hi Laurent

I agree 100%, why try and reinvent the wheel ? , our pattern friends in Japan are skilled craftsmen and when it comes to pefection without having to struggle -they are ahaed.

Pattern standards are usually diffycult to reach, so if you want to drive a Ferarri be prepared to pay for the pryvilage.

E-mail them -see if they can help-I had good resonse from them when I needed some hard to find pattern items

Good luck
Gerrie

Good idea Gerrie,

I'll try to contact all these one :

http://www.geocities.jp/xcgdj265/

http://www.ictv.ne.jp/%7Esumi-_-7/eng-vib.htm

http://f3a.sakura.ne.jp/index.html

http://www.vit.or.jp/~tomo/index.html

Maybe one of these gentlemen could help us.

flylulu, think I got it. Look at the K&W website www.ks-j.net/xo/modules/products/

Guttorm

Thk's for the web site boysnake !

I sent them a message let's hope they will answer !

Laurent

Let us know what they say for cost on these.

Thanks,
Mark

Latest news from K&S

"I am sorry for the late reply.

Thank you for your interest in our products. Unfortunately, we are unable to send you the products since we only sell directly to our distributors.

However, I can introduce a store in Japan "RC Japan" . Since we have had a growing number of requests for our products in countries outside of Japan, RC Japan has recently begun exporting our products direct to the consumer in order to meet this demand and keep our fliers happy.

They have most of our products in stock, so please contact them for a quote or whenever you need products.

Their information is:

RC Japan
Contact: Wendy
603 6-7 Kawahara-dori
Showa-ku
Nagoya
466-0853
Japan
E-mail address is [email protected]
URL: www.rcjapan.net

I will also forward your email to RC Japan.
You might hear might hear from them soon.

Sincerely,

YASU Nakaseko
Export Sales Manager
--
K&S Co., Ltd (Polaris Co., Ltd/Trading Co)
1F Jitsuda BLD, 14-26 4 chome, Ohsu, Nakaku, Nagoya, Japan
Tel 81-52-243-2815
Fax 81-52-243-2867
E-mail: [email protected]
H.P. http://ks.jp.org
"

Nice pro's hehhh

Let's continue investigation

Wood Support AKA...stands to start your motor and hold your model.

I received a few photos from Raiko Potter's, model airplane "stylist" extraordinaire, new model stands and they look very nice. Raiko has taken the functionality of the Japanese solutions and added his unique flair. It is my understanding that he will have a very detailed "Signature" version as well as a value priced version. Based on the current currency exchange rate and shipping to the US, Raiko's will be quite inexpensive for their quality and design. One detail is the padding material he has sourced for the cradle edges.

The primary function of a stand of this design is to relieve the pressure and stress from the conventionally used devices which capture the tail. Personally, much of my practice is by myself using a very quality product from J & L of Wisconsin which captures the stabilizer.

I will post pictures of Raiko's solution as they are available.


Rusty Dose
Team Futaba
Team YS Performance

Thk's Rusty,
you know English is not my primary language, I'm still doing some mistakes, or use the wrong word.

You captured exactly my concern about tail systems or poor designed stands.

"Safety first" like we say in my company and after the flight they say "let's go pub mate" Its quite difficult to write with Irish accent.

I'll be happy to see your pictures.

Rgds

Laurent

Hi everybody,

That' a wonderful day !

Thank's to Hiro from starcraft and PAPAONE Claude. I've been able to put an order for a Japanese Stand (Rosa).
These guys are really helpful.
HIRO website http://www.starcraft.co.jp/index301.html

I prefer to don't speek about shipment price It' will travel alf of the world no !

That's the end of my search !

Hello All! As Mr. Rusty has stated, I have successful designed and built my answer to the famous japanese stand. It is 2 weeks old now and I can say that it is definately a very useful tool. Rusty has all of the photos that I sent to him and he will hopefully be posting them soon. I will be gearing up to offer the stand to the public soon which each one will be hand made and even the ground tent stakes are powder coated. After being away from the scene for some time I have had alot of ideas and with returning back to pattern, I will be expressing some of my fashion statements in the pattern world for 2007. Stay tune! R/C Kid

P.S. Thanks to Bryan Hebert , Rusty and Mike Hester for the input and ideas!

Got one from my friend Alex Lau in Hong Kong, thinking of importing a few of them if there are some interest:-

A few more pix:-

Wood Support...

Here are a few photos of Raiko's artistry. The design is very attractive, functional and of course has Raiko's signature flare. The unit is similar to the foreign units AND is different. The unit folds flat for easy transportation, will be available in at least (2) versions from "trick" to "Signature Series" and prices ranging from $150 for the clear finish.

I fly alone quite often and look forward to start my models with the wing secured rather than the conventional stabilizer captured "stooges".

I will post other photos as available.


Rusty Dose
Team Futaba
Team YS Performance

Nice work!! Let us know when there ready for the public.

Wood Support...


Here are a few more photos of Raiko Potter's "Z-lique" model stand. The unit folds flat, is adjustable, very solid and will greatly reduce the wear and tear on MY models!


Rusty Dose
Team Futaba
Team YS Performance

I'm interested. Approximate cost?

Jon