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Old 07-13-2007, 01:12 PM
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Ok I hate to bring this up but.....

Jarvis, did you check the wing shear webs on that one? Some are cross crain, not vertical. last thing I want to see is a wing fold. if you have and everything is fine, cool. if you haven't, check and I'll bring balsa and a knife if I have to [8D] Good flying plane BTW, but like all arfs in that price range, you have to discover each one's possible issues and take care of it. Not a huge problem IF you know about it before hand.

Man I can't believe it's almost time to leave!!! Oh BTW, make that 2 days...doesn't look like I'll get out of here today after all....

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Old 07-13-2007, 02:12 PM
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Mike,
I am sure Jarvis checked the shear webs. He has already lost one due to this. Or maybe he has more rudder throw on the new one for knife edge with one wing panel.

Dave

Good luck to District 7 pilots!!!!!
Old 07-13-2007, 02:35 PM
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Ahh ok...well, didn't mean to rub salt into an old wound then, sorry []

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Old 07-13-2007, 03:58 PM
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Hey,Mike
The new Wing has a 3/16 spare plate ,that starts at the Root and ends at the wing tube sleeve
it's about 8" long an the shear web run's the whole lenght of the wing. My Evolution was the
one that started, the talk about the Wing Mod. Ultra -RC sent my a new kit, only to find out that the stab tube is not level. I was plannig to fly my MK TOP Star 140, but put it in the dirt, so it
back up time.just finsh the Evolution before getting shipped. Mike I've sent so much money
for this trip to Muncie, that I had to take a plane are "WIFE" would have killed me if I would
have, told her that I was just going to watch.
Old 07-13-2007, 06:07 PM
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ORIGINAL: Derek.Koopowitz


Seriously, anyone can get them... you just have to cough up (choke...choke) enough money. Since I'm not a builder/painter and I know that Adrian isn't one either... having someone else build/paint for me is a boon especially when it can be done to my specs. Having the right connections helps too.

BTW, we just weighed Adrian's ProLine last night - ready to fly it weighs 10lbs 6.5oz (ready to fly without fuel of course). He's had the plane for 6 months already and hasn't even flown it!!! He better do it soon otherwise my eXodus will be flying before it...
Hey, I may not be a builder, but I did finished an ARF recently - the World Models Spot-On 120. It required me to glue the two wing halves together, not to mention the daunting task of mounting the canopy. Besides, even though, I'm not a builder, but I did stay at the Holiday Inn last night.

As for the ProLine, I'm just waiting for the perfect day:-

Wind - 3 mph
Temp - 23 degrees C
Humidity - 60%

Adrian
Old 07-13-2007, 06:27 PM
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Hey Jarvis.

I can't believe you didn't fix it after we got off the phone.
It's really easy, should take an hour tops.

Good luck!!

Chris
Old 07-13-2007, 07:22 PM
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Ok who's going??!!!

I'll be there with a grand total of count em.....3 days of practice since last year!!!!! Woohooooooo this should be fun. Luckily I have a pretty good plane or 2 (hopefully 2) and I will need it

So, who's going, whatcha flying, pics?

I plan on posting some pics throughout and making some posts for those who can't be there. I'll try to make it useful and fun.

One reminder, PLEASE vote for the Concours de Elegance trophy!!! The guys entering this contest have spent a LOT of time and money on thier planes, and deserve to get a few minutes of your time and support. These are the guys that drive the modeling side of all of this. Please show your appreciation for thier efforts by taking the time to fill out the form and vote! Doesn't matter what you vote for...a scratch build, a custom built plane from overseas, an ARF somebody took the time to get fancy with, whatever it is, if it's entered and you think it's the coolest, vote for it! Rusty Dose has put a lot of time and energy into this thing and I for one think it's one of the best ideas to come down the pike in a very long time. When you see him, please take a moment and thank him for his hard work because trust me...nobody works harder than Rusty!

Here's a quick pic of my new toy. The prototype Black Magic VF3. Fast and dirty monokote job, flies like a wet dream. I may have the candy apple red plane with me as well, but that remains to be seen. I'll take some better pics later.

-Mike
Planning on being there later in the week. Hope you stick around. Love to fly your new toy after the Nats

Matt
Old 07-13-2007, 07:27 PM
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I'll be there through Sunday!!! It'll be great to see you again!

-Mike
Old 07-13-2007, 07:42 PM
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I'll be there through Sunday!!! It'll be great to see you again!

-Mike
And BTW, I actually did fly this past weekend (first time all year) and am planning to fly again tomorrow. Geez it's almost like old times.

Will be trying out the new 19x10 on the webra. The 18.1x10 just wasn't enough prop.

Matt
Old 07-13-2007, 09:52 PM
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Did you try the 18.1x10W blade? It's a good prop, just a hair too much load for the DZ.

BTW you know you can fly the VF3 if you want. That goes for pretty much anybody, as time allows.

-Mike
Old 07-14-2007, 12:52 AM
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Hi guys,

I just read on the D7 site that some of your are going to stop at Springfield, Mo this weekend to get some practice time. That is great but one little hitch, we found out today that the property to our immediate south is having a huge rodeo for some charity on Saturday. We have to keep them happy to keep our field and it may not be possible to fly a pattern sequence with out getting over the horse arena. We are trying to get all club members to rerrain from flying on Saturday. Sunday there will be no problem what so ever for some good practice time.

Sorry for the bad news but it is a once a year deal and we need to keep the neighbors happy.

Dan Curtis
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:46 AM
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Did you try the 18.1x10W blade? It's a good prop, just a hair too much load for the DZ.

BTW you know you can fly the VF3 if you want. That goes for pretty much anybody, as time allows.

-Mike
No, not the wide....but did try the 18.5x9.5 W and it was okay at two clicks richer setting. Tremendous brakes but I wasn't thrilled with the acceleration....a bit too much non-useful blade area that can easily be remedied. It has about 25% wider blade than the 18.1x10. I also didn't care for the very wide hub which interfered with the spinner cone. But the Webra has the beans for it so I felt that a 19x10 (reworked 18.1x10) would be just right.

I would definitely want to fly the model....maybe Saturday after the Finals??

Right now I'm getting ready to go out and play. It's a beautiful day here in NJ. I'll let you how the 19x10 worked
Old 07-14-2007, 09:54 AM
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Cool and yep after the finals is fine!

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Old 07-14-2007, 10:17 PM
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ORIGINAL: MHester

Cool and yep after the finals is fine!

-Mikey
Mikey,

The 19x10 worked very well. Outstanding brakes and very good speed control throughout. A new plug allowed richer settings all around and the engine was happy. I got in six and let me tell you it's been a long time since I had this much fun.

see you next week

matt
Old 07-15-2007, 08:00 AM
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Better bring your windy props! Was a fun day here yesterday lol
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Old 07-15-2007, 12:37 PM
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I'm typing off of a laptop now, which we are almost to Muncie. We went ahead and stopped in Nashville , Tennessee last night , and will go make a couple of flights at there airfield then we will leave here tomorrow morning, so we should be in Muncie, tomorrow (Monday) at about 1:00. Sorry could'nt put my plane on here, but don't have it on this lap top. But this is my first Nats, and im flying an electric Genesis, and will be flying Intermediate. Cya all there

Matthew Liprie
Old 07-15-2007, 12:42 PM
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Well nevermind, you can see my airplane on my profile. Take a look
Old 07-16-2007, 04:44 PM
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Good luck to everyone!
Wish I could be there.
Will there be daily reports on the AMA web site?
Old 07-16-2007, 06:18 PM
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Got the word that Chip crashed do to a wing tube issue today.

QQ's there with the Euphoria.

Chris
Old 07-16-2007, 06:49 PM
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What is/was CHip flying Chris?
Old 07-16-2007, 07:08 PM
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I'm not there. Not sure what he was flying. Didn't say on the text message that I received..

I get updates pretty regularly though from a few that are there. I'll update what I hear that doesn't show up on the d7 web!!

I'm assuming he was flying a genesis.

Hope he has a backup!!

C
Old 07-16-2007, 07:43 PM
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He'll probably find a Genesis being used in Intermediate and borrow that plane for ten competition flights.
Old 07-16-2007, 09:21 PM
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Ouch!
Old 07-17-2007, 05:58 AM
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He has a new plane by CAModel, the same guys who produce the Genesis (and the Osmose) Not sure if he took it to the Nats.
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The word around here is he was flying his new plane the Passport.

The other word is he drilled holes in his wing tube to get under weight and the tube failed in flight. However that is the Muncie rumor I am not sure how much truth there is to it.


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