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Old 12-28-2013, 10:55 AM
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Yep, looks usable to me.
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Old 12-28-2013, 11:05 AM
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FYI:

Remember, these plans are my 1/3 scale plans enlarged to half scale. I have not changed any notations on the plans referencing wood sizes or materials.
Anything which you may read applied to the 1/3 scale model and not necessarily to the half scale.
Old 12-28-2013, 04:03 PM
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Neat work Art! Are you saying you didn't soak the strips beforehand...you just used wood glue?

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Old 12-28-2013, 05:25 PM
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Thanks Jim

On the elevator outlines I wetted the areas which needed to bend just enough so that they would bend without breaking. Then I used wood glue painted onto each layer and then pinned it to the board.

On the stab I used thin CA on the balsa to balsa pieces and medium CA on the balsa to ply pieces.

On the rudder outline I pinned all the pieces in place and then wicked thin CA into all the joints.

In each case I wetted (with a wet paper towel) the wood pieces just in the curved areas......only enough to prevent the wood from cracking/breaking.

HAPPY NEW YEAR !
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Old 12-28-2013, 11:00 PM
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Art checking in that's going to be a sweet one.
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Old 12-29-2013, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by FokkerD7
Art checking in that's going to be a sweet one.
Doug
I can only hope so. Welcome aboard.
Old 12-29-2013, 09:50 AM
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I now have a stab trailing edge and elevator leading edges,

Thin CA glue was used.

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Old 12-29-2013, 10:03 AM
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I hope you don't make yourself allergic to that glue after all that ca use !
Old 12-29-2013, 11:13 AM
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Wow, I just saw you are building another work of "Art". You are the man...building a 1/2 scale. I've seen your work and I would just go ahead and make the whole thing scale...not just 1/2!!!!

All kidding aside I can't wait to see this at Wings for Kids...that is the goal I hope! Hope you and Rhonda have a Happy New Year. Always enjoy your build threads!

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Old 12-29-2013, 11:56 AM
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Lance, I use a small fan to direct the fumes away from the building table......in this case I opened the doors to completely air out the shop (got a little chilly as temps are hovering in the high 30s today). I think I will survive.

Hey Tim, welcome on board! That was funny (a bit subtle - I didn't start laughing until the second time I read though it).

Yes we plan to be there for the "Wings for Kids" charity event in Louisville but I doubt if this plane will be ready yet for that outing........it's still me we're talking about - you know, the S L O W builder. Dayton in September is the actual target date........
Old 01-02-2014, 03:23 AM
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It was good talking to you on the phone the other day....
With your new DRI and this new project of yours.....which one do you think will be your new "comfort plane"?
Cheers,
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Old 01-02-2014, 03:16 PM
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Don't know Paul - that can only be determined at the flying field after several days of flying.

From what I am hearing it's gonna be the DR1 (BUSA 1/3 scale). Time will tell.....
Old 01-03-2014, 05:39 AM
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This doesn't suprise me a bit Art, I just wonder what took you so long. I was pleased to find your post on here. It's been a few yrs since I've been on here. I've been flying a small electric P-47 and just received yesterday one of the new Parkzone Carbon Z Cubs. I'm back but in a much smaller way. Retirement pay doesn't go near as far. I hope you and Rhonda are well and will keep in touch.
Old 01-03-2014, 07:15 PM
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Hey Bill

Good to hear from you. We are fine, thanks........and hoping everything is going well for you, too.

Welcome aboard.

Art
Old 01-06-2014, 02:28 AM
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Art here is some visual stimulation for you!
I can not wait to see your 5' 8" frame hold one of these on start up! OR better yet....CRAM this plane
into a mini van!!
LOL!
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Old 01-11-2014, 05:14 PM
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I finally started fitting some of the elevator pieces and parts together.



The outline was cut to a thickness of 5/8 ", but in the process of gluing the laminations some distortions occurred - some of the pieces lifted slightly........lots of sanding will take place after the elevators are built. That being said, the elevator ribs will need to have some extra thickness to accommodate all that sanding.

The ribs are layered with 1/8" blasa. 3/8" square bass wood, 1/16" balsa and another 1/8" balsa piece. Hopefully the final thickness will be at least 1/2" thick.
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:31 AM
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Wow, it is spring yet?

I have the two elevators glued up.......I have installed gussets and hinge blocks (I will be using 5 Ro
bart large hinge points in each elevator half). I have also pinned the outline to leading edge joint with a 1/8" dowel.
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:38 AM
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I have also been working on the control horns for the elevators and rudder.



They consist of two outer layers of 1/8" a/c ply with a 1/8" lite ply center. Since the whole tail section will have to be removed for any kind of transport (and maybe storage, too) I need to be able to remove the control cables without a lot of fuss. I have found a Dubro product with a removable pin drilled for a cotter pin.


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Old 01-18-2014, 09:12 AM
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Looking good Art.
Have you considered laying ply gussets top and bottom instead of dowel pins at your joints? 1/16" a/c ply beveled on the edges would do it
and covering over it, you would hardly notice. This is standard construction on full size wood planes, and your almost there at 1/2 scale

Just my wooden nickels worth.... Stay warm my friend...Spring is coming

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Originally Posted by mikeywart
Looking good Art.
Have you considered laying ply gussets top and bottom instead of dowel pins at your joints? 1/16" a/c ply beveled on the edges would do it
and covering over it, you would hardly notice. This is standard construction on full size wood planes, and your almost there at 1/2 scale

Just my wooden nickels worth.... Stay warm my friend...Spring is coming

Mike
Yes, I've toyed with that idea Mike, but I just couldn't marry up to it........I am approaching this build from the model perspective. And since it isn't enormously larger than what I have been building in the past, I feel most of my methods are adequate for this project. I will, however, use some lite ply gussets on the fuselage construction. I think the full scale guys glue and nail their gussets in place on their planes..........more than what is necessary on this model.

When I climb in and fly what I build I will definitely follow your advise........which would be right after the divorce.
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Hey King Arthur!
I wasn't very keen on your plywood horns as you described them on the phone the other day.....But seeing them in your photos..
WOW! That is a beefy horn! They look great! ...........no weak there! LOL!
HPA
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Hey Paul

When we were talking and throwing around ideas, I slipped away from the KISS (keep it simple, stupid) principle. I got to thinking and asked myself a simple question, "When is enough actually enough?"

I am pretty sure I could go smaller and lighter and more scale looking - and much more COMPLICATED, too.....but I think this is enough for me this time.

Art
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I started the stab layout. I pinned the outline to the table, then cut the trailing edge to fit and glued it in place.

The stab center section consists of 1/16" a/c ply top and bottom with a 1/2" balsa core. I will drill the balsa for the 3/8" dowel rod inserts before I glue it together......the dowel will keep the stab from crushing when I bolt the tail to the fuselage. Unfortunately I cannot do this until the fuse has been framed and I can accurately determine the bolt hole and blind nut locations.

The ribs are 3/8" bass wood with 1/8" balsa on the top and bottom. These will be added next followed by the gussets and control cable guide hole.

Then the stab brace mount blocks (a/c ply with 4-40 blind nuts) will be located and installed.

I threw in another picture of the elevators - most all the irregularities in thickness have been sanded out.......they look a little better now.

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Stab ribs are now glued in place.......center section is positioned but not glued yet.

I placed the stab and elevators over the plans again to check tip alignment - looks good. I likey.

I placed a 4' steel rule to give a reference to size. The stab/elevator tip to tip is 58"! That is why is needs to be removable for transport in my Dodge Caravan.......its too wide to go through the back hatch!

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......for reference, I am 5'8".
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