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Old 07-02-2005, 03:46 AM
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Go this triplane off Ebay for a song. Has a Quadra ( probably will junk it)Probably go with a Honda 4 stroke!
I have NO idea who made it. Nosen comes to mind. Other than a bit of patching it's in top shape but I have ZERO idea about where CG should be..etc. Cowling should be no problem. Flying down in a Lance to pick it up this week.

Any ideas? I'll send a prize to the one that comes up with some answers!
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Old 07-02-2005, 03:52 AM
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t measures 54" from tail to prop, 64" wingspan, and 25" high.
Old 07-02-2005, 06:21 AM
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To find CG on a tripe, measure back 30 % of the centre wing.
Old 07-02-2005, 06:21 AM
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Looks like it was built from Nick Ziroli's plan. If the firewall is 8 3/4" diameter you can get a nice cowl from Precision Fiberglass. C/G is at the leading edge of the bottom wing to 1/2" back.
http://www.ziroliplans.com/cat_frameset.html
http://www.precision-fiberglass-prod...dex.php?cat=29
Old 07-02-2005, 06:30 AM
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Has a Quadra ( probably will junk it)
You could junk it at my front door.
The plane does look like a Ziroli.
Old 07-02-2005, 06:38 AM
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BRAVO! Everybody gets cigars! Send me an address and a cigar preference.
Old 07-02-2005, 06:56 AM
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I wouldn't junk the old Quadra. With a little TLC, they'll run forever. I have a couple that are 25 yrs old and as good new. Like a fine wine, they just get better with age
Old 07-02-2005, 07:40 AM
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That is the funkiest DrI I have ever seen! I kept wondering where the ailerons were and then I saw the full barn-doors on the middle wing. Oh, and that paint job on the wings and fuse! Please tell you're going to strip that off -- it looks like it was done with a dollar-store spray can on the way to the field. Also if it were me, I'd have to add at least mock separation lines for the ailerons with a sharpie.

Still, it looks like a great plane to learn how to fly a triplane with and if you can resurrect the Quadra that's all gravy.
Old 07-02-2005, 10:40 AM
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The mid wing ailerons were an option shown on the plans. I have no idea why anyone would use them. That is the first one I ever saw built that way.
Old 07-02-2005, 11:00 AM
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I'm curious. What aerodynamic difference would it make to place the ailerons on the top vs. middle vs. lower wing of a triplane? Of course, the folks at Sopwith just went ahead and put ailerons on them all!
Old 07-02-2005, 12:06 PM
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These plans were designed a long time ago(in the 70's or early 80's) and it was easier to to hook-up strip ailerons than work out linkages & bellcranks, to the top wing ailerons. Dual servos in the wings is actually a rather new idea, (last 20 years or so). Seems like such a simple idea, but you almost never used to see it.
Old 07-02-2005, 06:19 PM
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Built a DR1 quit a few yrs ago. 25 size with a bit of dihedral but rudder and elevator for controls. Flew very well so I thought I'd put ailerons on the top wing as scale. Could bank it on it's side but wouldnt roll over no matter how much throw you put in. So I wouldnt be suprised they put them on the midwing for this reason.
Old 07-03-2005, 07:33 AM
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I'm serious about the cigars! Thanks for the help. It looks like it was painted and faded. Who knows? I've got less than $50.00 in it though. I'll try to pick it up next week.
Old 07-03-2005, 12:49 PM
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ABUFLETCHER,
you need to do your home work!!! That is an authentic paint scheme,with the streaky paint and all. The original builder went through a lot of trouble to make it very scale like and just because it doesn't have a monokote smooth finish make it wrong. You will need much closer pics to really judge the workmanship but the choice of colors by the builder should not be one of them. After all they did not call the Jasta that this Dr -1 come from "The Flying Circus" for no reason.
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Tom, Fokker aircraft are famous for their "streaky" camouflage but in every photo I have ever seen the streaking on the fuse goes from top to bottom and the streaking in the wings goes from LE to TE -- now back and forth from wing-tip to wing-tip like has been done here (with a spray can). BTW, in most (all) cases, the streaking on the fuse stopped forward of the mid-wing's TE. As for it being "very scale" well I don't need any larger photos to see, for example, that the UC and cabane struts are made of simple bent music wire, that the ailerons are on the wrong wing, the rudder is oversized, there's no cockpit, and the interplane struts are lacking in any detail.

For $50 with a Quadra engine this was a great deal and I would probably have gone for it was well. But only as a fixer-uper. It shouldn't be too much work to strip off the covering (which would also allow a look inside to see if there is any internal damage) and recover and repaint. The mid-wing ailerons might also make this a very nice "trainer" DrI if the owner would like to get a more scale one down the road.

PS. Please disregard this entire post if I've mistakenly taken a non-serious post seriously.
Old 11-01-2005, 12:48 PM
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[8D]So Cigar Slicer. Hows the DR1 restoration project coming along?? Just curious.

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Old 11-01-2005, 01:20 PM
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ORIGINAL: badger41
That is an authentic paint scheme,with the streaky paint and all.
Looks more like he doped 'er on a rainy weekend.

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