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Old 07-15-2011, 11:14 AM
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The Stearman is a lovely plane. I built a Sterling U-control Stearman with an Enya .35 in it in 1968. Phew! That was a long, long time ago. I built it while student teaching in Flint, MI. I lived in Philly and Flint, MI was a long way away. To make matters worse, I was engaged to my sweetheart (still married to her) so I was miserable and lonely. I was rooming at an older women's house (grandmother old) and she was wonderful and let me set up a model building desk in the living room. It was a tiny shotgun house so space was very precious. I was building a model a week and ended building something more challenging, the Stearman. It came out nice.

Unfortunately, I knew nothing about flying U-control and thought you needed to give it up elevator to make it take off. We were at a Labor Day picnic just after I graduated and got married and were with all of our friends. I asked my buddy if the elevators were up and he gave an affirmative. He let the plane go which immediately took off straight up. It did a wing over at the top, and started hurtling directly at ME. The lines were now slack so I had no control whatsoever. I jumped out the way as the plane re-kitted itself. It was sad and absolutely, totally and in every other possible way humiliating. Needless to say, there was uproarious laughter. If America's Funniest Home Videos existed then, it would have been on it. It was years before I attempted flying anything again.

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Old 07-16-2011, 01:04 PM
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Anyone out there, with a set of plans for the Royal/Maratuka B-17, can tell me what down thrust is called for in the plans? Also, just curious what the wing stab incedence be?
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Old 07-16-2011, 02:31 PM
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For the Marutaka kit (which I believe is the Royal's twin), the down thrust was -2º to cancel the wings +2º angle of attack, and the side thrust is Right 1º for the right hand engines and left 1º for the left hand engines. I used the Dave Brown mounts with thrust plates behind to generate the two angles. I don't believe the downthrust was built into the stock engine rails in the nacelles automatically.

Old 07-16-2011, 03:13 PM
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You have all the #'s correct, but my plan shows the stock motor mounts in at the -2degree angle.

Still have a stock built B-17 to sell

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Old 07-16-2011, 03:44 PM
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Is that 2 deg from the wing datum, or the fuselage datum?
Old 07-16-2011, 06:39 PM
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Wing Datum bring onto the center line of the fuselage.

Old 08-28-2011, 09:26 PM
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hi
not had chance to read all this thread yet but i want a AT6 texan around 70 TO 80 INCH SPAN anybody had/built/flown the royal one any info appreciated good & bad

thanks
andy
Old 08-28-2011, 09:33 PM
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p.s
pics too if you have any

thanks again

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Old 09-21-2011, 08:11 PM
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Its hard to make progress when work keeps getting in the way! I've got 4 oil burners installed on my B-17 now. Sanding and filling the wing took forever!

Looks like RC universe is not loading my pictures. Too bad.......
Old 09-21-2011, 10:31 PM
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Need pictures!!!
Old 09-27-2011, 02:39 PM
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I score one today,, Royal Hein

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180730364924

did I pay too much?
Old 09-27-2011, 04:31 PM
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I think you got a good deal. A couple of years ago I scored big on a Royal Zero, paid $130. Also got a good deal on the 1/5 Royal Corsair at $200.

Old 09-27-2011, 06:30 PM
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The guy is close too so shipping was only $9,, Based on what I've seen some go for on ebay lately,,
I was lucky the guy had a Buy it Now and I just happen to be surfing at the right time.
I've always wanted one of those Heins,, patients and luck paid off
Old 09-27-2011, 07:17 PM
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I just checked your purchase in the Cost Of Living Calculator. If you paid $175 today, that's the equivalent of having paid $30.84 in 1970. I don't recall what the Royal kits were costing in the hobby shops in 1970, but it was probably more than $30.

So you did just fine.

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Old 09-27-2011, 09:57 PM
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If I recall correctly, in the mid to late 70s, the 1/8 Corsair was around $100.
Old 09-28-2011, 07:04 AM
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When I was in the hobby business back in the early 90's we sold the Royal P-38 for $259.99.
Much later I ended up getting that partialy built kit for a trade.
Old 09-28-2011, 04:30 PM
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You scored on the Hein; hope you make copies for future work. The 68" span is great, should fly well.
Old 09-29-2011, 06:02 AM
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How blasphemous would it be to kit-bash it into this [X(]
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:55 AM
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That would be a LOT of bashing. Only the horizontal is the same. I say bash it into a Mustang
I just sold my Hien sr. last year. It was about 40% built. I only have time for U.S. aircraft these days.
Old 09-29-2011, 12:21 PM
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I added the Hein so you can compare,,,

???? I don't know a little trimming here adding on there,,, the look pretty close to me,, I mean it'll be a float fly not the scale masters
Old 09-29-2011, 03:25 PM
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"they look pretty close to me,, I mean it'll be a float fly not the scale masters" I'm Scale Dail I only think one way.

It worked! I was able to post a picture again!!!!! I'll have to take a few more now. I am further along now. My Royal B-17.
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Old 09-29-2011, 03:47 PM
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Woo Hoo Pictures! It is so nice to be able to post pictures again! That is if anybody cares? Royal kits are for BUILDING! Not just collecting.
I had a little trouble with getting the landing gear the way I wanted. My strut idea did not work out very well. So I just made a single strut. Robart 530's 85 deg. air retracts. Very good quality. Will last at least 20 years! And the Robostruts are cut very short just to fit in the wells. The B-17 had a very low deck angle.
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Old 09-29-2011, 04:12 PM
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I care, lets see loads more pic's please of that B17 to get me started on mine again
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Keep the photos coming.
Old 09-29-2011, 06:14 PM
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I just finished getting the cowls on. I am going to set the wing aside to work on the fuse. The OS .15CV's fit inside. I am going to use the stock mufflers with OS extentions. I had to skew # 3 a bit so that the gear will clear the muffler.
I vowed to never compete in contests with a bomber again after my dismal showing at the Scale Masters 2007. So this bird is just for fun. In fact always building documented models with nose art and none of them with my wifes name, this one will have her on it. Gotta score points ya know with Xmas comming
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