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Old 11-09-2009 | 10:51 PM
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My comments on your post are in Bold/Italics.

Isn't it true that the POINT SPREAD at the end of static judging is what is hard to overcome in the flight scores, not the placement? NOPE, If you mean the spread between, say, 1st and 10th “static place”. It’s one’s static score delta that is hard to overcome with flight scores.

If the first place static is 99 and tenth place static is 97, then that tenth place guy (or gal) has to make up 2 points. Nope. He has to fly 6+ points better to beat him/her.

If first place static is 99 and SECOND place static is 95, then the second place guy has to make up 4 points. NOPE. He has to score a total flight score (of say, 3 rounds) of 12+ points to beat him/her.

If the flight competition was done first, the people back in the field would feel like they have a hard time to catch up. Since static competition is done first, it is the other way around. NO Comment.

This contest is equally about both static and flying and that shouldn't be changed. If you can't excel at both, you shouldn't be in the top rank. Nope. Static and flying are not equal in any sense. Static scores are weighted. Total score is the average of 3 best flight scores (assuming 4-5 rounds were flown) plus the Static score.

A high Static score of more than 2 is almost always a sure winner. That’s my assessment anyway. I’ve been there with a static of 97 chasing a 99 static. Needless to say, I didn’t fly 6+ points better then he did. There’s only 1 winner in this game. The rest fight for placement that will get them qualified.
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I just reread the Scale Masters rules and I stand by my earlier statement totally. It is true the the flight scores are an average of several flights (probably 3 of 4 or five but possibly only one flight if that is all the entrant has done). If a contestant is 2 points down from another guy after the static, he has to have a flight score average of 2 points better than the other guy to tie him, more to win.

I appreciate the fact that it is hard to get high flight scores consistantly, round after round, but that is true for everybody, including the guy who had the higher static score.

AGAIN, if the flight competition was first, some people would be whining about the unfairness of that.
Old 11-09-2009 | 11:25 PM
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I like the idea of a static done after the flying; some say what if it crashes? If it crashes, I dont care about static or flying. At the least, the CD should not release the static scores until the last round of flying is over; then everyone will keep on their toes to the end.
Old 11-09-2009 | 11:32 PM
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One thing that makes the event interesting is to monitor the scores as they come in. If you are at the event on Friday, at least you get some entertainment by seeing how the entrants are doing to that point.
Old 11-10-2009 | 12:01 AM
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I race to the tent just like everyone else to see where I am, but holding out static release could keep interest to the end. Keep the flight scores public. I have seen some play averages and stop flying if they are doing well because they see no reason to risk any more.
Old 11-10-2009 | 08:24 AM
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Old 11-10-2009 | 05:37 PM
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Those folks may do well at a qualifier, but once you have three rounds under your belt, your scores can only get better. If you are there to win, you will fly every round possible. A good example of that. in 97 at Irving Tx, I had flow 3 out of the 4 rounds by saturday nigh. one round I had to scratch do to problem servos. I was happy with my best two rounds of 88 each and I think one in the mid 70's. Sunday was forcast to be worse weather then the previous two days which were warm and sunny but very windy with gusts etc. wind and rain forcast for Sunday morning. I was fly a Waco at the time. My buddie and I discussed the reasoning to get all put together and ready to fly and decidde it was too much effort and why take a chance on crashing in worse weather. I elected to set out the Sunday rounds, guess what, the best day of the event for flying. By 9:30 the sky was clear and there was maybe 5 mph right down the runway. When the scores were totaled, I placed 18th overall in expert, which in itself was not to bad for me, but had I flow Sunday in the great weather I probably would have moved up 5-6 places. As 13 thru 19 were only seperated by about a 1.5 points. And most competitors flew their best rounds on Sunday. You live and learn. I now fly every round I can in competition.
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Old 11-10-2009 | 06:55 PM
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There's been lots of good conversation on the subject here and I know that this thread and the others are being read by the members of the USSMA board and advisors.

Please keep checking in on Mitch's website. It is the hub of information and contact for the USSMA. If you want to know what's happening, get involved or suggest rules changes, that's the place to make it happen, but it won't happen without more people getting invovled. There's a lot of folks who care enough about the Scale Masters to voice their concerns and I'm happy to see that. Let's keep this line of communication going over at the usscalemasters.org forums.

Go to a qualifier, bring a friend, help out, judge, CD, start a new contest, but get involved. We can keep growing this.

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