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This is my Dave Patrick PA-18, powered by an OS Gemini 1.60 and guided by Hitec Aurora-9.

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My AT-6 Ziroli 103" wingspan.

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That second photo is spot on! Looks like the Alaskan Bush.

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That AT-6 doesn't look to shabby. Just as I'd expect to see one from the ground. Shame it isn't bigger.

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Smokin" Cap
Wow...that second image is just fantastic.

Tony 0707...are you serious. Your images couldn't be further from what this thread's about. C'mon man, get with the program.

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pic of a GeeBee at the AMA District II fun fly that I took.

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OK SDCrashmaster,
Im back!! Remember me???......See if these pics jog your memory...
2nd try at a scale photo!!!

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This is one of the most flattering shots of models I've ever seen. I still could be talked into those pictures being of full-scale planes. Great job with that shot!

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I agree, Teams' Cessna shot is very pleasant.

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Peckergnatflyer,
I am not that knowledgeable on WWI stuff, but I like very much what I'm seeing here. Nice work there.
No, I do not particularly remember you. But I can only assume that I had something to do with motivating you to get these great shots;)
Some may not like my sometimes harsh method...but it obviously "worked" in this instance.
Again, good stuff and thanks for playin'.
SDC

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My hughes h-4 hercules aka spruce goose. Happy landings. Jim

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edit, just couldn't do it.:eek:

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Was that airplane at the AMA convention earlier this month?

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Well, looks like I'll have to then

I like your Spruce Goose. It's certainly an ambitious project.
But there is nothing about any of your photo of her that would lead me to believe it's not a model.
Forget about the fact that we all know that the Spruce Goose never flew (beyond just a few feet off of the surface in Long Beach).
This thread is about Photos of models that have us scratching our heads as to whether it's a model or the real thing.
Not feelin' it here. And am wondering why this thread is so difficult for people to understand. Do you actually think your model looks like it's possibly a full-scale aircraft in your photos?
The only thing I can come up with is that people see the thread title and think "man, I spent time trying to make my model as scale as I could. so this is where I should post these so so pics of her".
WRONG! This isn't that thread.
There is another thread just recently started that would be perfect for your photos. They would be appreciated far more on that thread.

Now many are going to say "man, don't be so uptight about it. They're just models and it's a hobby for cryin' out loud"
I would respond with "it's too late to turn back now"

There should be a rule that you have to display an "understanding" of this thread before you're allowed to post images.

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SDCrashmaster, just wondering if you are the "moniter" of this forum, or can anyone comment.
Thx. RonP.

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I think that "Gastapo" would be a better term. And no, I am not a moderator. Any one can comment on what they like, or dislike about photo submissions here.
I generally reserve my comments as to a particular photos "appropriateness" or adherence to the thread's guidelines.
This thread has been around long enough for everyone to know what this thread is about, and what type of images are expected here.

But I must say that the "premise" of this thread has been very tough for many to grasp...but I feel that it is mainly because of a lack of effort.
I would love to, someday, see nothing but great images that match the intent of this thread. With no more "what the heck are you thinking" posts by me or anyone else.
And nothing but kudos in response to nearly every photo submission. Think that can happen? Probably not :-(
In the meantime, I will continue to attempt to push it in that direction.

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SDC, I completely agree with your vision of this thread, and am not easily offended by harsh critiques. I "get" this thread and appreciate it's intent. I'm wondering though, if it should be moved from the "R/C Scale" threads to the "Photography" threads? Would it be more easily understood by Photographers with an interest in Scale, than by Scale Modelers with an interest in Photography? Just my thoughts.

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IMO, If this thread were moved to a seldom visited area of RCU, it would die...and it wouldn't be a slow death.
It would become a "whatever happen to that great thread?" thing.
Again, MHO

Would hate to see that happen. This thread is nearing 4K posts...there are very few threads that can boast those kinds of numbers.
My hope is that it is because of the eyecandy and not because of the controversy and turmoil...which seems to be the magic ingredient in most successful programming these days.
All the "reality" shows that enjoy success have this ingredient. The long-running "American Chopper" would've died long ago were it not for the feuding between the Teutul's. "American Idol" has Simon.
The list goes on and on.
Is this thread's popularity due to this "car-accident" curiosity? My hope is that it's because of the images, and the fun in producing images that display a resolve in meeting the challenges that this thread requests.

Geez...this sounds more like a blog than a post :eek:

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Fair enough. It's your opinion, and I admire you for it. I don't necessarily agree, but I'm not bothered by it enough not to contribute and/or comment when I can, and hopefully I'll be able to contribute more to the spirit of this thread. (Although my language may sound stern, I hope this isn't read in the wrong way. I sincerely respect you and this threads intended meaning ;))

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Yo Paul
I agree with you the requirements for this thread were established by the thread originator ,so why deviate from those,if Not post on a thread where the requirements are NOT needed. Anyway this is from a guy who ONLY takes photographs in the bright blue skies . Putting this thread on track again I think these heavy iron aircraft do
Semper Fi
Joe
BTW the images of the A10 has the canopy blown off :D

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Our friendly Scottsman Gordon Mc. Hawker Hunter @ Ca jets 07 again the blue sky

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Mr crashmaster Iposted the pics in fact due to modelers who have seen the pics in person commenting that it looks real in the photos, Hadhowards h-4 had a real flightwould have been nice butit did not and thats just the way it is.I do not care what you think anyway its just a post with pics for fun.On the other handI think its you who did not understand the intent of the thread asI noticed you bashing other people for various reasons and tracking back your last 25posts on this thread not a 1 of them included a photo of a plane scale or not. The thread was to post scale looking photos. my h-4 hercules was scale enough to finish first place two weeks ago in scale civilian at the ama convention in ontario ca. so if you dont like the pics fine by me.

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I commented about liking your model. I said nothing negative about your model.
I could care less about "the real one didn't fly, so pics of your model flying aren't correct" thing, and that had no bearing on my judgement.
I only had negative comments about the photos of the model. They are nice photos, but they don't cause me to stop and figure out if it full-scale or a model.
Congrats on your win at the AMA convention. It was well deserved. But, saying that I do not understand the intent of this thread is just ludicrous, and your post would have had much more merit had you not said that.
Again, great model, and an award winner at that. But your photos are nothing more than snapshots of a rfine model. That isn't the intent of this particular thread, and you should not be protesting that. You should, however, post them in the "Favourite Scale Models In Flight" thread. It will fit perfectly there.

Uncle Joe, awesome pics of the heavies...as we have come to expect. Is that Buck's Phantom...real nice. And Smokin' Joes' YA Twin Hornet looks fantastic on that photo pass.
You know that the comments about your boring azure blue AZ skies are made out of jealousy right?:)
Hope to see you soon!

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They certainly are!Today is SO grey, the Norwegian State is handin' out free Prozac.You take good pictures 'Joe, never any question about that.

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( uncljoe ), hi, nice photos. I hope you don't mind me playing with them a bit. I couldn't resist...:)
The first image is your original untouched. The second is my version of a wartime "grab-shot". Possibly by a wingman.;) The third one.......just for fun. Kinda makes me think of "Dr. Strange Love".:D Hey, what do you expect at three in the morning.
Ken.

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David... just kidding on the Blue skies although the blue skies do get boring :D The past 5 days we (Phoenix,Az general area)over 5 inches of rain surpassing all of last years..... In about 4 to 5 weeks the desert will be blooming. Here are a few shots of a Mig 21 with clouds
Semper Fi
Joe

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Hey Joe,
Once again I couldn't resist:D. Joe keeps posting great photos of great models and I'm bored.I'm getting a lot of practice with photo-shop.:)

Thanks Joe.

ok, the smoke is a little heavy so I tunned the engine. Think take-off, full fuel and afterburner, 1961;)

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Ken
You must be working mid-nights or the grave yard shift as your post are in the wee hours... As for me I just can't sleep [:o]
Semper Fi
Joe
PS you have the Mig Smoking like an F 4

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Joe I'm just a night owl, always have been. I wasn't sure if the MIG-21 smokes that much cause I've never seen one fly in person. The MIG-15 at Chino doesn't smoke at all.
Anyway, I had to start somewhere and if it's too much, no problem. I'ts fairly easy to redo...NOTHING smokes like a Phantom:)
Ken.

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I don't like the smoke (too much) but some vapor off the wings would be neat!

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Here's an indy helis AH-64 Apache

http://fadely.smugmug.com/photos/428695172_vAkb8-XL.jpg

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That is frickin' hellacious! I'm not even particularly a heli fan, but both that model and that photo are stunning!!! [sm=thumbs_up.gif][sm=thumbs_up.gif][sm=thumbs_up.gif]

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Thanks - the model has won 1st place at Todedo in Scale and second place at last year's US Nats. It is kitted by Indyhelis.com - it is gorgeous in-person. The manufacturer is located near me in Indiana so I have a lot of opportunities to photograph it. This shot was taken in the fall of '08. Camera - Canon 1D MKIII, 300mm @f5.6, 1/80th, iso 50.

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I found this very nice photo on the "Favourite models in flight" thread on page two post number 31 and I thought it would look neat as a "vintage" photo.

First I removed the 'model antenna' wire (non-scale size) and then (most important) cropped the 'models' shadow out and most of the foreground (which was screaming competing scales).
To help the illusion that you're looking at a full-size aircraft, you need to trick the brain in thinking that this model is huge and farther away than it really is. With the shadow in the picture your brain is conficted by the true depth of the scale. So... eliminate anything that conflicts which in this case includes those shrubs at the edge of the runway. We don't really need that portion of the photo anyway cause we intuatively know that it's landing. I prefer B&W cause it's a little easier for the brian to accept the illusion in my opinnion. But DC-3s are still flying around the world today so color is certanly appropriate just harder to be convincing,I think.
Anyway, hope you like it and maybe get a little inspired for your next scale model photo shoot;)
Ken.
ps,I hope he doesn't mind me messing with his photo. By the way, I think that this is an acceptional model of a DC-3. For ten years I performed light maintenence including washing the entire airplane (including walking the spine of the fuselage to wash the top) and doing engine runs for preflights. So I think I know DC-3s pretty well and this model is NICE.

The photo was taken by RCU member ( wings2an3 ) of Monroe, New York,USA

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Very worthy of any and all accolades. Likewise, I'm not an R/C Heli fan, but I am a Scale fan. I don't get the opportunity to see many Scale Heli's (although I see a lot of real ones every day at work :D). I'm hoping more Heli guy's come to "Joe Nall" this year, and I hope you're one of them ;).

(BTW, it's nice to see another Indiana boy on here. I'm from New Haven, but my Aunt and Uncle live in Fishers)

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Very worthy of any and all accolades. Likewise, I'm not an R/C Heli fan, but I am a Scale fan. I don't get the opportunity to see many Scale Heli's (although I see a lot of real ones every day at work :D). I'm hoping more Heli guy's come to "Joe Nall" this year, and I hope you're one of them ;).

(BTW, it's nice to see another Indiana boy on here. I'm from New Haven, but my Aunt and Uncle live in Fishers)

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Crashmaster,, just wondering if you could comment on the reason the sprucegoose photos didn't fool us as we would like. It seems to me the main problem is the finish. That is why , ironically, the one that comes the closest to fooling us is the middle one because the glare off that shiny surface obscures the rest of the finish while still showing an accurate scale silhouette. You mentioned 800 to 1200 sandpaper for a more realistic look on your prop blades. Would that be a usable fix for the too shiny finish we see in a lot of scale shots. Also it seems shots of scale planes on the water is particularly difficult. In the shot of the goose, the water is obviously not deep enough to be floating a giant plane and waves , like time, are not scalable. Appreciate your input on how to make better photos, however , I'm glad your not commenting on any of mine yet. Noticed from the start of this thread you have an eye for detail. I have a brother in law who is in advertising who is just as picky and his photographers hate him but his clients love him. RH

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Thanks Tango,

I wish I could make Joe Nall, but it won't be this year. I'm very much an airplane lover as well. Flew RC planes since 1973 and helis since 1996. Nice to see another Hoosier on the board. I also live in Fishers.

Mark

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This photo is certainly not that spectacular (but has that 'airshow snapshot' quality), but I'm posting it because it captures two aircraft of different scales in a perspective that works. The Mustang is actually not much smaller than the B-17, but is further away, making them appear to be 'in formation'... If the P-51 just had a 4 blade prop, it would be pretty convincing. BTW, this is from the AZ Electric Festival today...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...FB-17P-511.jpg

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Good shot ! :D Looks like a great day in Mesa.
Semper Fi