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Old 02-13-2011, 11:13 AM
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Looking for pictures, web sites anything for Pershing either WW2 or Korea. Also looking for pictures of camo option for Pershing, color pictures would help.

Danny
Old 02-13-2011, 11:33 AM
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Default RE: Looking for reference material for Pershiong

look at Squadron Signal publications. They have a booklet on Korean War armour.
I believe most were not camoed but rather Left O.D.
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Old 02-13-2011, 11:48 AM
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Default RE: Looking for reference material for Pershiong

They do have some Persh. with tiger printed fronts that are pretty kool looking let me see if I can find them.
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I only saw the Patton Tank with tiger fronts also some Shermans and chaffee tanks also.
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Danny, Here are three listings of good publications;

M-26 Pershing Walk Around series by David Doyle. Squadron Signal 5706
The M-26 Pershing & Variants, Troy D Thiel Schiffer Military History Book, Atglen, PA
M-26-M-46 Pershing Tank 1943-53, New Vanguard by Steven Zaloga. (* the name is misleading as the M-46 was named for Patton)

The Pershing didn't use much camo at all. In WW II it was too late and during Korea, not much camo was used outside of camo nets.
There was a unit that did use a white patch camo scheme in Korea, winter 1951, but I don't know the unit nor did I see any there. Pershings and the M-46 Patton were all a plain-Jane OD with regulation Geneva Convention stars and white block letter ID. My unit had M-46s and used a yellow triangle on the turret with green unit numbers and white stripes on the gun tube to ID the company from the air, but otherwise, straight reg markings and no camo. (my avitar)

Hope this helps. Are you planning to do a Pershing? Which era, be glad to help.
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Pershings did NOT use tiger face decor. Any Pershing with those colors is historically incorrect. The decor was used only for Operations Ripper and Killer April-May 1951 and included the "new" M-46, Easy 8 Shermans and M-24 Chaffees. Shermans from the 3d Inf Div also had a large division patch painted on the tanks as well as tiger face. Pershings from the 1 & 2nd Marine Divisions who took part, used only authorized Marine markings. The Pershing at Ft Knox wears the tiger markings as that M-26 is a stand-in for the unavailable M-46s used by the unit who donated the tank.
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Default RE: Looking for reference material for Pershiong

Thanks  for posting this, my next tank purchase may be a Pershing.

I will be looking at doing it up in Korean War markings.
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Pattoncommander, I just purchased the HL M26 and trying to find a paint scheme. I was hoping for something unusual. Did not matter what era. I am waiting for a book M26/46 Pershing Tank 1943-1953. Hopefully it has some color prints. Thanks for your input.

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Looking for pictures, web sites anything for Pershing either WW2 or Korea. Also looking for pictures of camo option for Pershing, color pictures would help.

Danny

Here's some detail type pictures of the M26 Pershing that may help you. http://svsm.org/gallery/M26?page=1

Gary
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Default RE: Looking for reference material for Pershiong

Danny, Model Master 1911 is a good WW II color. The HL Pershing is a Korean era tank and the color is good. I did a post a while ago on War Room , Authenticating an M-26 Pershing' with suggestions for building an accurate M-26. For korea, you will have to add fender braces and remove the aux periscopes for the driver-bog and for the most part, remove the skirts. Some Marine units kept the skirts, but most were trashed or folded up for MG ammo stowage.

Here are two additional publications I neglected to include;
Armor in korea, by Jim Mesko, Squadron Signal 6038.
Tank War Korea, by Simon Dunstan. Arms & Armour Press Tanks Illustrated #14.

Armor in korea does include an "M-46" from the 64th Tk Bn, 3d ID with white splotch camo. (pg48) It is an extremely inaccurate drawing and is simply a Pershing with added compensating idler and mufflers drawn in. Even the rear deck is incorrect, sprocket in the wrong place, and has the M-3 90mm gun and not the M-3A1. ....but the camo scheme is there and the only unit that I am aware of which used any camo scheme.
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Thanks for the info.

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