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Old 02-13-2011 | 12:22 PM
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I have a problem with the tracks staying on the idler sprocket unless they are supposed to ride thet way. the first two pics are after running for twenty minutes, second two pics are the way I thought they should be. Any thoughts?
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Old 02-13-2011 | 01:42 PM
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How many links do you have in your tracks?

My Panther G (same "running gear") came with 89 linkks.

After positing a question abbout it a few months ago, I go the reply recommending removing one link.

That solved the problem for me. I think the only thing to check if you do that is make sure it isn't too tight.
Old 02-13-2011 | 03:42 PM
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Thanks Glen,
I had 89 links also. I removed 1 link and ran about 20 minutes on grass and asphalt until the battery ran down. the battery was warm to the touch,but not hot. The tracks are still in line.
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Old 02-13-2011 | 04:21 PM
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I'm glad it worked.

It makes them much more fun to drive when you aren't worried about throwing a track.

Lets you appreciate the good driving qualities of the Panther or Jagpanther.
Old 02-13-2011 | 04:30 PM
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I'll have to try that. Both of my tanks hav been throwing tracks bad lately. Heck.I'm gonna go do it right now
Old 02-13-2011 | 04:35 PM
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Just watch they're not too tight, I'm sure that wouldn't be good, you shouldn't have to stretch them.

I am envious of those who can run them on grass; we have to get rid if about 1+ feet of snow, then have things dry up. I cut an area about 40 ft by 120 ft extra short for tank "operations"
Old 02-13-2011 | 10:11 PM
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I'll have to try that. Both of my tanks hav been throwing tracks bad lately. Heck. I'm gonna go do it right now
Are you throwing tracks all the time or just in soft dirt and/or snow? One of the drawbacks of HL tanks is the lack of a tensioner system. Many of us build our own or add aftermarket items. Removing a link or two is always a viable option. If the track is too tight with one link less and two loose with it in you can try trimming down the ilder a little to decrease its diameter. Do not trim too much so as to cause the teeth to bind or bottom out. Stiffer springs or clocking the first and last springs can tighten up the tracks. Tight track will settle down a little as the srings get increased use with run time. Many JPs are "bottomed-ouit" in the front already. It is very commong on the metal gearbox tanks. The lower hull floor should be parallel ot the ground.
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Old 02-14-2011 | 01:49 PM
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Another problem you may have is that the idler is not inline with the road wheels. I had that problem with my Tiger 1. I put an additional washer in between the wheel and hull lined up like a charm and have not had a problem since. Did the same thing with my Jagdpanther. I was putting metal tracks on and checked the alignment added a washer and have not had a problem and it still has nice track sag. Just some thoughts .

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Old 02-14-2011 | 07:12 PM
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I put a straight edge across the wheels all is in line. The tracks move outward on therear most idler, jumping one set of teeth. makes no difference weither it's on grass, sand, or asphalt. Every other wheel runs true except the rear idler.
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Old 02-15-2011 | 03:31 AM
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I also added washers to my idler between the wheel and hull and so far no detracking.
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I put a straight edge across the wheels all is in line. The tracks move outward on therear most idler, jumping one set of teeth. makes no difference weither it's on grass, sand, or asphalt. Every other wheel runs true except the rear idler.
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I wixh we could do more to assist you. It is so fustrating not being able to see what is going on with your tank firsthand. Short of a video post on youtube (not a bad idea).... Since you are in Texas, try to reach out to the Texas Armored club based out of Monaville near Houston. There may be a member in your area that can assist you firsthand. Here is a link... http://www.texasarmor.com/rc-home/ Tell the Bob from NJ sent you. I was down there last Fall and they are a great club and have a fantastic battlfield there. I believe they are having and event of the 20th of February.
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Old 02-15-2011 | 09:44 AM
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Bob check out the pics on my first post, first 2 pics show the tracks off the idler after a fifteen minute run second two show before the run.
a TX transplant from Wildwood,NJ
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Old 02-15-2011 | 12:58 PM
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Harleridr,
Is your idler tight against the ( not so tight it won't move )? Could be that you have some flex in your idler if it's not tight enough. Just some thoughts.

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Old 02-15-2011 | 01:11 PM
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ORIGINAL: harleridr

Bob check out the pics on my first post, first 2 pics show the tracks off the idler after a fifteen minute run second two show before the run.
a TX transplant from Wildwood,NJ
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OK Harle,
GSP exit 4.... If you join the TA Club or come to Danville I may get a chance to meet you. Did you reach out to the Texas club? As for your tank, I still suspect the idler wheel itself or an errant tooth on the tracks. Inspect the idler for wobble (tracks off and make sure the two halves arn't separating under stress. Spin them also and check for distortion. If nothing else works let me know and I'll loan you a good set try out. Also check the angle and make sure the ilders are screwed in true and straight.
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Another thing I noticed on my Jagdpanther suspension is that the arms aren't symmetrical on each side.  They point forward on the receiver side of the tank, and point backwards on the commander side of the tank.  This probably adds to the commander side detracking more often. 
Old 02-16-2011 | 09:15 PM
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This thing detracks on both sides equally and makes no difference what type of surface it is running on
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ORIGINAL: harleridr

This thing detracks on both sides equally and makes no difference what type of surface it is running on
Harle
Still detracks after removing links? I'd try the wather mod next.
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Removed one link, now all is well with the world.
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