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There was a casual and brief discussion about how one would integrate flak-tanks into IR combat at the last can-am battle... I want one! :P

Those ae sweet.

Flak tanks might either play as mission targets or as light tanks imho

can you imagine what would happen to ground troops if fired upon by one of these....whew...not good lol

<span lang="en" id="result_box"><span class="hps">I read the</span> <span class="hps">memoirs</span> <span class="hps">of German</span> <span class="hps">anti-aircraft gunners</span> <span class="hps">in '41</span><span>.</span>
<span class="hps">Two</span> <span class="hps">Soviet</span> <span class="hps">T-34s</span> <span class="hps">jumped out</span> <span class="hps">of their</span> <span class="hps">position.</span> <span class="hps">T-34</span> <span class="hps">escaped</span> <span class="hps">from the encirclement.</span>
<span class="hps">T-34</span> <span class="hps">destroyed by</span> <span class="hps">tracks</span> <span class="hps">the position of</span> <span class="hps">the two</span> <span class="hps">anti-tank</span> <span class="hps">guns.</span>
<span class="hps">German</span> <span class="hps">anti-aircraft gunners</span> <span class="hps">gave</span> <span class="hps">all</span> <span class="hps">shots</span> <span class="hps">on the tank</span> </span><span lang="en" class="short_text" id="result_box"><span class="hps">From</span> <span class="hps">a distance of about</span> <span class="hps">30 -</span> <span class="hps">40 meters </span></span><span lang="en" id="result_box"><span class="hps">with no hope of</span> <span class="hps">life .</span> <span class="hps">The first</span> <span class="hps">T-34</span> <span class="hps">stopped and</span> <span class="hps">the crew</span> <span class="hps">jumped out of the</span> <span class="hps">tank.</span> <span class="hps">Then the</span> <span class="hps">anti-aircraft gunners</span> <span class="hps">opened fire</span> <span class="hps">in bursts and</span> <span class="hps">the second</span> <span class="hps">T-34. </span></span><span lang="en" id="result_box"><span class="hps">The second</span> <span class="hps">T-34</span> <span class="hps">stopped</span> <span class="hps">the same way.</span> <span class="hps">The crew</span> <span class="hps">jumped out of the</span> <span class="hps">tank.</span> <span class="hps">The Germans</span> <span class="hps">captured the</span> <span class="hps">stunned</span> <span class="hps">crew</span> <span class="hps">T-34 tanks</span><span>.</span> <span class="hps">The tanks themselves</span> <span class="hps">were</span> <span class="hps">not damaged.</span>
</span><span lang="en" id="result_box"><span class="hps">The German</span> <span class="hps">added</span> <span class="hps">- that the</span> <span class="hps">anti-aircraft gunners</span> <span class="hps">thus</span> <span class="hps">captured</span> <span class="hps">several</span> <span class="hps">Soviet</span> <span class="hps">tanks in</span> <span class="hps">'41</span><span>.</span>
<span class="hps">After the defeat of</span> <span class="hps">the Germans near Moscow</span> <span class="hps">- more than</span> <span class="hps">they</span> <span class="hps">do not</span> <span class="hps">fall to</span> <span class="hps">such happiness</span><span>.</span></span>
<span lang="en" id="result_box">
<span class="hps">I think</span> <span class="hps">-</span> <span class="hps">affected</span> <span class="hps">by several factors</span> <span class="hps">-</span>
<span class="hps">1</span><span>.</span> <span class="hps">Poor</span> <span class="hps">visual</span> <span class="hps">equipment</span> <span class="hps">T-34</span> <span class="hps">first</span> <span class="hps">editions</span>
<span class="hps">2</span><span>.</span> <span class="hps">Tired</span> <span class="hps">crews</span> <span class="hps">that</span> </span><span lang="en" id="result_box"><span class="hps">escaped</span> <span class="hps">from the encirclement</span></span><span lang="en" id="result_box"> <span class="hps">for several days</span>
<span class="hps">3</span><span>.</span> <span class="hps">The lack</span> <span class="hps">of ammunition of soviet tanks
</span></span>

"One reported instance records the Skink firing into a building occupied by about 50 German's, 10 of whom were wounded by HEI-T fragments and the remainder quickly surrendered. Combat experience with this single vehicle was certainly too brief to draw any real conclusions about its effectiveness"

Found this on the web

i have the turret of the wirbelwind its pretty nice shaped with a little more detailing it just amezing

As far as one of the above mentioned suppliers ,I would not not trust them for anything with their previous questionable reputation.

I agree, there is a scene, in "Saving Private Ryan", during the final battle where several of the U.S. troops are on top of the Tiger I trying to get inside and a group of German's push a 20mm Flak gun up and start blasting away at them. I would say the carnage would be even worse if this beast had been tracked, armored, and mobile!!!

While the shell might not penetrate the front of the T34 the sheer noise would have been stunning (literally).

There is a video on youtube with a guy (crazy Russian or something) firing a Bofors and the noise from it is quite exceptional.