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Old 03-21-2014, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SrTelemaster150
I wonder how many that are having issues W/the electric retracts have selected the wrong mode on the controller?
I tried both modes..anyways here's part of the email I sent Robart..I have a problem with my FW190 electric retracts.At first they seemed to function normally.That lasted for about 5 cycles.Then one would function and the other would not.At this time the right main does not function no matter which out put you use .the electric motor will turn one revolution and then stop.you flick the switch and it turns one revolution the other way then stops.Also the retract output #1 on the control unit does not function.Outputs# 2 and #3 work ok.I do not have an electric tail wheel retract,I am using an A123 6.6 volt battery.I hooked everything up according to the instructions,and did not reverse any polarities.The left main functions normally.....I went on to tell them that i haven't flow'n the plane yet etc...
Old 03-21-2014, 08:05 AM
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FWIW, I have the electrics (mains) and have had no issues after many many cycles! I use a separate 2S 1600 Lipo pack for the retracts. I did not do anything special, simply followed the instructions.

DLE 55, DX18, foam wheels which will be replaced by Williams Bros 14500, planning on adding the electric starter as well.
Old 03-21-2014, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sharam
foam wheels which will be replaced by Williams Bros 14500, planning on adding the electric starter as well.
The wheels to get are the Williams Bros Model #12200, those are the ones I got and modified, there was some confusion as to what Model to use but recently the concensus was to use #12200; pictured are my Modified Wheels which are the 12200 Wheels.

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Old 03-21-2014, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dasintex
The wheels to get are the Williams Bros Model #12200, those are the ones I got and modified, there was some confusion as to what Model to use but recently the concensus was to use #12200; pictured are my Modified Wheels which are the 12200 Wheels.
Cool, I will take a look. Thanks!
Old 03-21-2014, 08:18 AM
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Hi, we finished the cockpit kit for this cool warbirds. It has been studied to fit the Top Flite giant fw 190. Here you can see some photo



Avaiable on www.cockpitscale.com
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Old 03-21-2014, 02:26 PM
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Wow, gorgeous cockpit!
Old 03-21-2014, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveD-RCU
Man these electric Robarts are giving me fits,they work ok when testing out of the plane with an R6014FS Futaba receiver,but when I install it in the same type of receiver in the plane it acts up.One gear will retract and the other wont or one starts and then stops while the other retracts.I'm not using the electric tail wheel retract.I'm using a seperate A123 2100 Life battery..I'll figure it out someday....
Steve, I had a similar problem with my ESM FW 190D9 electric retracts. Turns out during the taxi and take off due to the long struts, any sideways motion would send signal to the unit that the retract was binding so the system would not actuate. They worked perfectly on the ground otherwise. Sometimes one gear would retract and sometimes neither. I bypassed it with a separate switch to power the unit. For take off I had the power switch off, with the retract switch in the up position. So once I broke ground I would hit the power switch and voila, gear retracted. I would then leave the power on during flight and for landing since there was no binding they worked fine. It was a pain in the butt, but it works.
Old 03-21-2014, 08:36 PM
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If output one is not working then the control board is bad and needs to be replaced. That could be the whole problem. Keep trying Robart, you'll get through
Old 03-22-2014, 03:59 AM
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You guys are making me a little worried about the electric retracts. I think I will sell them and go with pneumatic.
Old 03-22-2014, 08:05 AM
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Tony, after I did that little fix then a small screw pin snapped on a hard landing. Now my plane has been grounded for over 3 months now while I try to get the replacement part from the supplier, of course these are ESM retracts, I don't know how Robart's response to theirs is. Hopefully good if he is making these himself as opposed to sourcing out from "over there". From what I have gone thru I wish I had purchased air retracts.

I have used air for like ever. My electrics are awesome when the work.
Old 03-22-2014, 02:26 PM
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Started working on some panel line and rivet detail. Not sure how you guys do it, but a friend of mine showed me awhile back a great way to get decent looking rivets in film covering.

First thing is to give the surface two lights coats of flat clear. I use a regular old #2 mechanical pencil for the panel lines. The flat clear allows the pencil to get a good line to show up.

Since this is an arf, I'm not going overboard making sure everything is exact scale, just dressing it up a bit. I found a diagram showing an overview of panel lines, so please no rivet or scale police need to let me know it's not exact scale.

After the lines are layer down, I use a rivet tool I make up out of scrap tubing, solderded together and installed in a trim iron.

Then I just go to town pressing the iron into the film ( I use vice grips as an extra handle). The clear coat also gives some extra depth go the rivet.

Results are pretty good and really help add some extra depth to the look of the plane.
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Old 03-22-2014, 03:09 PM
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Mpizpilot

that looks awesome.... that's how I am going to do mine. where did you get that bag of different shaped ends.

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Old 03-22-2014, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by steph69
Mpizpilot

that looks awesome.... that's how I am going to do mine. where did you get that bag of different shaped ends.
You can get it from TowerHobbies. It's only a few bucks from what I remember. It comes in real handy. I've got several bags.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXWFS4&P=7
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Old 03-23-2014, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Mpizpilot
...so please no rivet or scale police need to let me know it's not exact scale...
Dude - if that's a reference back to me... I don't really give a rats arse either way. I'm not a 'scale Nazi' - my convo re earlier remarks is aimed at exactly that. "scale freaks" - who will say "that tail wheel is 2mm too long"... or ... "that wing is 5mm too wide". Like, what the hell? No two planes were ever made the same in WWII. They made do with what they had.

And so is model building.

Love to see rivet detail. Pain in the butt to do - lovely to see

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Old 03-23-2014, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BJ64
Dude - if that's a reference back to me... I don't really give a rats arse either way. I'm not a 'scale Nazi' - my convo re earlier remarks is aimed at exactly that. "scale freaks" - who will say "that tail wheel is 2mm too long"... or ... "that wing is 5mm too wide". Like, what the hell? No two planes were ever made the same in WWII. They made do with what they had.

And so is model building.

Love to see rivet detail. Pain in the butt to do - lovely to see

BJ
huh? I have no idea what your are talking about? I just didn't want anyone jumping all over me because my panel lines weren't accurate. Wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, just a disclaimer.
Old 03-23-2014, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SrTelemaster150
I wonder how many that are having issues W/the electric retracts have selected the wrong mode on the controller?
Wrong mode?

Do tell...

BJ
Old 03-23-2014, 07:36 PM
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I reckon panel lines & rivets etc. look great - must be a bit of a pain to do.

And what I meant was 'who cares how accurate they are' - they look kewl

BJ
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Dirtied up the wing a bit.
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Old 03-24-2014, 02:17 AM
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Mpizpilot like I said earlier I think what you have done is awesome.
Bj64.....
I totally agree nobody buys a topflite to be a shelf queen, I love to see people adding rivets and weathering, i know it's given me the confidence to have a go myself.
I would have loved to have seen an old battered fw-190 with scavenged parts on it .

I am following the road with least resistance, I will have a go at adding the odd bit, but there is no way I want to spend lots of cash and lots of hours just for it to fall out of the sky looking scale.
Old 03-24-2014, 05:15 PM
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took my tf gs fw190 to Arizona for the OEAF (one eighth air force) Fun Fly... what a great event... Hemple with that gigantic DR1... a few guys with very nice turbine jets (I think the one I liked most was the Eurofigher). Over 50 pilots... birds of all sizes and shapes...

Flew great on Thursday afternoon... Flew great on Friday, killed my wing on Saturday, went home on Sunday... 2nd flight on Saturday.. awesome take off roll (love that gyro)... I couldn't get the gear up... so I putted around and waited to get an okay to land... on the downwind leg another big folke wulfe went in on the east end of the field but I stay focused right up until I saw one of the wheels fall off the plane during my turn into the landing... since I couldn't get the gear up... and I was panicking... I went to land really slow in the dirt (that's what you do when the gear wont come down - doh!)... the second the strut touched the dirt it pull that wing right off the plane... a little damage to the cowl... gotta get the old wing in flying shape... wish me luck
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How'd the wheel fall off...?

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Originally Posted by BJ64
How'd the wheel fall off...?

BJ
okay... you know that thing you do before you fly... what's it called... oh yeah... THE CHECKLIST>>> I didn't do it on Saturday morning (even though I flew a bunch on Thursday and Friday)... The set screw wasn't tight... It's what I get for making the assumption and you know what they say... you make an assumption and it makes an ass out you and umption!
Old 03-25-2014, 05:27 PM
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Bugger!

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I did one flight yesterday, and now both wheels refused to retract .They hit the forward edge of the wheel well.

Perhaps a good idea is to drill bigger holes for the bolts, then rotate them a bit, and mount some kind of stopper, so they cannot rotate back....
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You can see the TF-190's first flight this year at 3:26 here;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pirfw...m-upload_owner

Quite nice sound from the Saito FG-57 !


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