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Warbird Forum Changes
11-29-2005 | 11:40 PM
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RE: Warbird Forum Changes
I chose "other" because; I think that there should be more than just WWI and WWII sub forums. Gas; Glow; Giant Scale; Fighters; Bombers...I know that there is want for, and definitely a need for all kinds of other forums, electric; Cold War; inter War. My thought is always diversify...the more choice given, the more people will be interested. Guys that are into big, gas Luftwaffe fighters, are looking for something different than 40 size Me-109's, or electric 109's. Just the easier it is to find what meets your interest, the more likely you will be to spend time enjoying the site than sifting through extraneous stuff. Hmmm...I think that's what I mean...too tired.
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11-30-2005 | 02:39 AM
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RE: Warbird Forum Changes
Plane Insane,
I believe in the K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid) method. This forum is fine the way it is. Why have to hunt and peck for all the individual split off's? Good luck.
"Keep 'Em Flying!"
Flak
I believe in the K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid) method. This forum is fine the way it is. Why have to hunt and peck for all the individual split off's? Good luck.
"Keep 'Em Flying!"
Flak
11-30-2005 | 08:38 AM
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RE: Warbird Forum Changes
ORIGINAL: Plane Insane
Guys,
This is your forum and questions are being asked whether we should enhance it a bit for your enjoyment. Please vote and share your thoughts. Thanks.
Guys,
This is your forum and questions are being asked whether we should enhance it a bit for your enjoyment. Please vote and share your thoughts. Thanks.
ARF Warbirds
ARF Multi-Engine Warbirds
Warbird Kits
Warbird Scratch Built
Warbird Giant Scale kits
Warbird Giant Scale Scratch Built
Multi-Engine Warbird Kits
Multi-Engine Giant Scale Warbird Kits
Multi-Engine Scratch Built Warbirds
Multi-Engine Giant Scale Warbirds Scratch Built
(For those that want to know, scratch build does not mean design, design means design. Scratch building is a type of building, meaning the plans are already there. Therefore the proper wording for a person that designs a plane, cuts and assembles his own parts would be “designed and scratch builtâ€.)
I am completely sick of threads that start with a picture of a new ARF in the box, they clog up the forum, “look what I just bought†thread. I don’t want to go to just a twin engine forum and see a Twin Stick thread! I have very specific interests and most of what I see in these categories I don’t want to bother with, ARF threads push all the good thread away. I understand that most people don’t build these days, but to get specific information about building a particular kit or information about a particular plan would be much easier to find with more precise categories. Some people are posting Warbird kit building threads in the “Kit Building†category.
Please don’t respond to my post, just post your own ideas, these are mine and I’m not changing my mind.
Dion
11-30-2005 | 08:52 AM
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RE: Warbird Forum Changes
I think it should be left as is. A Warbird is a Warbiird. When you start to split a forum into smaller groups, it gets harder to find or disperse general info, that will fit more than one group of warbirds.
As an example, if you have a question about a B-24 model, should you go to the Warbird forum, the Twin Forum, or the Scale forum. What happens if it gets split up more. I think the set-up we have now is a good one.
On the other hand, if it does get split-up, I will still read all the related forums.
As an example, if you have a question about a B-24 model, should you go to the Warbird forum, the Twin Forum, or the Scale forum. What happens if it gets split up more. I think the set-up we have now is a good one.
On the other hand, if it does get split-up, I will still read all the related forums.
11-30-2005 | 08:53 AM
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RE: Warbird Forum Changes
I also voted "others".
I feel kit built warbird and ARF warbird should be separated. Each one of them have enough participants to keep them active.
I am a kit builder. I suggest make ARF warbirds a sub-forum under the ARF airplane.
Onewing
I feel kit built warbird and ARF warbird should be separated. Each one of them have enough participants to keep them active.
I am a kit builder. I suggest make ARF warbirds a sub-forum under the ARF airplane.
Onewing
11-30-2005 | 09:02 AM
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RE: Warbird Forum Changes
I am not for any changes which would divide it up into all kinds of sub-categories. Altho I have specific interests, I also like to occasionally see what others are up to, and I don't want to navigate thru several different forums to find them. I can spot the topcs that might interest me, and I ignore the 'teasers': the ones which are vague and aimed at the incurarble curiosity seekers.
Would I WOULD like to see tho is a way of combining the threads which have the same subject. For instance: someone starts a thread on the CMP Hellcat, and gets it going. 2 months later, some search challenged newbie starts a new thread on the same aircraft. Then a third comes along, and so on. That's what gets rediculous. I say: find a way to combine them. That way, ALL the questions and ALL the info gets lumped into the same thread. Would probably be a lot less clutter.
And wouldn't you know it: Luke and I are completely at odds again. Oh well, I ain't changing my mind either. I'm too old to do so.
And why doesn't someone kick him outta here once and for all? Just kidding Luke, 'cause if they ever do, I'm outta here too.
Would I WOULD like to see tho is a way of combining the threads which have the same subject. For instance: someone starts a thread on the CMP Hellcat, and gets it going. 2 months later, some search challenged newbie starts a new thread on the same aircraft. Then a third comes along, and so on. That's what gets rediculous. I say: find a way to combine them. That way, ALL the questions and ALL the info gets lumped into the same thread. Would probably be a lot less clutter.
And wouldn't you know it: Luke and I are completely at odds again. Oh well, I ain't changing my mind either. I'm too old to do so.
And why doesn't someone kick him outta here once and for all? Just kidding Luke, 'cause if they ever do, I'm outta here too.
11-30-2005 | 09:19 AM
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RE: Warbird Forum Changes
I think scratch building used to be design and build. Many people have miss used the term and now it means plans built. I prefer to use the terms - plans built or scratch built (meaning design and build)
I think I am in the minority here though.
I think I am in the minority here though.
ORIGINAL: dionysusbacchus
I vote "Other", here is what I would like to see:
ARF Warbirds
ARF Multi-Engine Warbirds
Warbird Kits
Warbird Scratch Built
Warbird Giant Scale kits
Warbird Giant Scale Scratch Built
Multi-Engine Warbird Kits
Multi-Engine Giant Scale Warbird Kits
Multi-Engine Scratch Built Warbirds
Multi-Engine Giant Scale Warbirds Scratch Built
(For those that want to know, scratch build does not mean design, design means design. Scratch building is a type of building, meaning the plans are already there. Therefore the proper wording for a person that designs a plane, cuts and assembles his own parts would be “designed and scratch builtâ€.)
I am completely sick of threads that start with a picture of a new ARF in the box, they clog up the forum, “look what I just bought†thread. I don’t want to go to just a twin engine forum and see a Twin Stick thread! I have very specific interests and most of what I see in these categories I don’t want to bother with, ARF threads push all the good thread away. I understand that most people don’t build these days, but to get specific information about building a particular kit or information about a particular plan would be much easier to find with more precise categories. Some people are posting Warbird kit building threads in the “Kit Building†category.
Please don’t respond to my post, just post your own ideas, these are mine and I’m not changing my mind.
Dion
ORIGINAL: Plane Insane
Guys,
This is your forum and questions are being asked whether we should enhance it a bit for your enjoyment. Please vote and share your thoughts. Thanks.
Guys,
This is your forum and questions are being asked whether we should enhance it a bit for your enjoyment. Please vote and share your thoughts. Thanks.
ARF Warbirds
ARF Multi-Engine Warbirds
Warbird Kits
Warbird Scratch Built
Warbird Giant Scale kits
Warbird Giant Scale Scratch Built
Multi-Engine Warbird Kits
Multi-Engine Giant Scale Warbird Kits
Multi-Engine Scratch Built Warbirds
Multi-Engine Giant Scale Warbirds Scratch Built
(For those that want to know, scratch build does not mean design, design means design. Scratch building is a type of building, meaning the plans are already there. Therefore the proper wording for a person that designs a plane, cuts and assembles his own parts would be “designed and scratch builtâ€.)
I am completely sick of threads that start with a picture of a new ARF in the box, they clog up the forum, “look what I just bought†thread. I don’t want to go to just a twin engine forum and see a Twin Stick thread! I have very specific interests and most of what I see in these categories I don’t want to bother with, ARF threads push all the good thread away. I understand that most people don’t build these days, but to get specific information about building a particular kit or information about a particular plan would be much easier to find with more precise categories. Some people are posting Warbird kit building threads in the “Kit Building†category.
Please don’t respond to my post, just post your own ideas, these are mine and I’m not changing my mind.
Dion
11-30-2005 | 09:23 AM
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RE: Warbird Forum Changes
I voted to leave it as is.
I don't care for ARF's here and it might be nice to split in three: WW1, WWII then later (this would probably be jets mostly). Then it could be split into ARF's, kits, plans and design.
I like the KISS so leave it as is.
Carl
I don't care for ARF's here and it might be nice to split in three: WW1, WWII then later (this would probably be jets mostly). Then it could be split into ARF's, kits, plans and design.
I like the KISS so leave it as is.
Carl
11-30-2005 | 11:11 AM
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Seems to me, one has to dig thru 3 pages of WWII threads just to find the WWI thread they asked a question in the day before. I would not be against a WWI subforum. JMHO
11-30-2005 | 12:09 PM
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ORIGINAL: carlbecker
I think scratch building used to be design and build. Many people have miss used the term and now it means plans built. I prefer to use the terms - plans built or scratch built (meaning design and build)
I think I am in the minority here though.
I think scratch building used to be design and build. Many people have miss used the term and now it means plans built. I prefer to use the terms - plans built or scratch built (meaning design and build)
I think I am in the minority here though.
11-30-2005 | 12:33 PM
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Dion, I like your forum suggestions, however I have to disagree with you on your definition of "Scratch Built". Scratch built is just that, you start with scratch...nothing. Not someone elses plans and you just cut out the wood...that is "Plan Built", where as say, buying Anderson plans and a wood kit from PKC, or a box of wood from Top Flite...that is "Kit Built".
Just my 2 cents,
Rob / katchmarek
Just my 2 cents,
Rob / katchmarek
11-30-2005 | 02:29 PM
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RE: Warbird Forum Changes
If it ain't broke I don't fix it, but maintenance doesn't count. I did not redirect the thread, someone else made the original statement. My second response was on track.
Now this forum could also be split gas and glow, but I still think it should be left alone or just make a new forum for WW1 but I would not visit it and miss something.
Carl
Now this forum could also be split gas and glow, but I still think it should be left alone or just make a new forum for WW1 but I would not visit it and miss something.
Carl
ORIGINAL: TLH101
Are you working on the "if it don't stink, stir it" mentality here? This is a topic for another thread, not to take this one off base. Has nothing to do with splitting the forum.
ORIGINAL: carlbecker
I think scratch building used to be design and build. Many people have miss used the term and now it means plans built. I prefer to use the terms - plans built or scratch built (meaning design and build)
I think I am in the minority here though.
I think scratch building used to be design and build. Many people have miss used the term and now it means plans built. I prefer to use the terms - plans built or scratch built (meaning design and build)
I think I am in the minority here though.
11-30-2005 | 05:01 PM
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I voted to leave it as is.I like the diversity of all the "WAR BIRDS" no matter if they are WWI WWII or what ever.I prefer glow but I enjoy reading the threads about gas and so forth.K.I.S.S .Very seldom do I look at any other threads,if its a WAR BIRD then it should be in this forum.Tom
11-30-2005 | 07:28 PM
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RE: Warbird Forum Changes
If there is a change, I would like to see the following categories:
ARFs
Builds (including kits, plans and scratch)
Documentation (3 views, walk arounds, color, ect.)
Otherwise, I'm happy with the way it is now.
Scott
Oh, either way, let's see if we can do something about keeping these WWIV fanatics out!
ARFs
Builds (including kits, plans and scratch)
Documentation (3 views, walk arounds, color, ect.)
Otherwise, I'm happy with the way it is now.
Scott
Oh, either way, let's see if we can do something about keeping these WWIV fanatics out!
11-30-2005 | 07:55 PM
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RE: Warbird Forum Changes
i voted for other. i agree with corsairjock about combining threads with similar subjects such as the hangar 9 mustang etc. this would help those who are not used to searching the threads and maybe reduce the number of very similar threads about these subjects. plus if these threads were easier to find the guys who create these new threads about the same subject would get more/better information. it looks like the newer threads about the same subject area get less response, so if they could easily find the older threads they would find the info they are looking for right away, and maybe they would not need to even write their their thread at all.
maybe the popular/common threads could be grouped together somehow.
ed
maybe the popular/common threads could be grouped together somehow.
ed
12-02-2005 | 10:43 AM
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I posed this question on separating WW1 from WW2 to RCU. So, some of you will feel this is my fault. KISS to me means making things SIMPLER. I am interested in WW1 and it is DIFFICULT to find WW1 interests in the Warbirds Forum, because WW2 is posted so much more often! So, yes, lets do the KISS thing and separate the two! You guys whom are only interested in WW2 Warbirds must find it annoying to see posts about WW1, don't you? Lets see now, If I like ww2 warbirds, and there is this whole other separate topic about WW1 aeroplanes, how is it more difficult to NOT click on WW1?
The idea for a forum should be allowing FOCUS. The more topics there are, the more focus the forum will allow. I think this is logical thinking and to be opposed to more topics, is illogical from my point of view and I'm not calling anyone illogical, I'm attempting to inform you so you can be logical!
Mark DeSchane AMA 59157
The idea for a forum should be allowing FOCUS. The more topics there are, the more focus the forum will allow. I think this is logical thinking and to be opposed to more topics, is illogical from my point of view and I'm not calling anyone illogical, I'm attempting to inform you so you can be logical!
Mark DeSchane AMA 59157
12-02-2005 | 05:20 PM
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I don't think it's quite big enough to separate. I'm with Prop Wash, leave it as is, or I'd never read anything about giant scale, gas vs glow, or WWI era planes. To separate them would mean a few of the topics would never be seen by people who might have info pertaining to the question...
And it sounds like the Kit/Scratch builders have a grudge against the ARF crowd. Is this true? I've only met one old guy who thought ARFs were horrible mistakes that put planes into inexperienced hands. I dissaggree, I'm a flyer, not a builder. I've built a kit before, and it takes too darn long. Sorry to go off topic, should we start a thread on this too?...
And it sounds like the Kit/Scratch builders have a grudge against the ARF crowd. Is this true? I've only met one old guy who thought ARFs were horrible mistakes that put planes into inexperienced hands. I dissaggree, I'm a flyer, not a builder. I've built a kit before, and it takes too darn long. Sorry to go off topic, should we start a thread on this too?...
12-05-2005 | 08:36 AM
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RE: Warbird Forum Changes
ORIGINAL: Plane Insane
Guys,
This is your forum and questions are being asked whether we should enhance it a bit for your enjoyment. Please vote and share your thoughts. Thanks.
Guys,
This is your forum and questions are being asked whether we should enhance it a bit for your enjoyment. Please vote and share your thoughts. Thanks.
Also;
Shouldn't this question/poll have been a "sticky"? This would have kept the question in the fore front and exposed to more RCUers!
By putting the vote previous to the discussion, people are voting without knowing the issues! Wow, why am I complaining about this, as this is so typical of how things are in the real world!
Actually the reason I make comment here is to attempt to bring this vote back to page one of the forum on Warbirds. The rest is all only my own political agenda.
12-05-2005 | 09:00 AM
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I gotta comment on the "KISS" comments: 2 members have opposing views as to how it applies here. I agree that it stands for 'Keep It Simple, Stupid'. To me, that means fewer parts, or in this case: fewer forums. Adding more forums to diversify would NOT be using 'KISS', IMO. In a machine, it is adding more parts that makes it more complicated, and more of a deviation from KISS. So in here, it seems that adding more forums would complicate things. Am am all for KISS (ESPECIALLY since I am employed by a Japanese owned company, and the Japs have no concept of KISS).
