Peter_OZ

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pretty much what I do except I just heat the tube over a candle. Low tech but it works. For druz fasteners I use larger diameter, burn the rivey outline in then use a sharp small screwdriver and heat it, then burn the line in at the correct angle to the panel line.

All tedious work but it is very relaxing and rewarding. I also use artist silver relvef paint in a small tube for raised head rivets.

Sheriff of Nottingham

Thanks to you all, i have now started to produced some good looking rivets. As mentioned, it is relaxing and it brings the bird to life. It is not as time consuming as i imagined, in fact, its quick. Pics dont really do it any justise, will get her out side when weather picks up and take a few more.

THANKYOU,

Peter_OZ

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looks good mate! [8D]

Sheriff of Nottingham

Thanks for the positive comments. I am waiting on a pair of wheels from fighter aces before i can really do a lot more. I would like to do a silver colour scheme, but in past experiance, it never appears to look about right. When the time comes to build my next warbird i will use something like the material Graham kindly suggested. This time i will make do with silver paint, has anybody got any suggestions as to which silver to use to get a nice realistic looking finish???

Jetjockgb

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Hi Frank,

Yes the chrome paint I now use is Lesonal Platnum and Alsa Mira Chrome,they are both expensive but if you want that true chrome / Ali finish, you got use them,unless you want to go for that sticky on stuff.

You are about the right stage, you now need to paint the airframe gloss Black before you apply the chrome,I would also do this if you deside to go for another paint system.

Regarding where to get the Lesonal Platnum paint, we at Tiger will be tining up and selling, or if you wanted I could chrome it for you as we are set up to do this,we are busy at the moment with 2 Comp P51's and my P38, but if you get it ready in the Gloss black I'm sure we could squeeze her in..

Here is a link to the last P51 I did in Mira Chrome.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_41..._1/key_/tm.htm

Cheers Graham
WWW.TIGERMODELS.NET

Sheriff of Nottingham

Thanks for the info Graham, your finishes are superb. I dont mind the expense of the Platnum paint if a finish as good as yours is possible. I have some good spraying gear and its something i enjoy, so a thousand thanks to you for the offer of of squeezing mine in at a time when your so busy.

I would be very intrested in purchasing some of the Lesonal Platnum paint from you when you tin up. Please let me know. Once my wheels arrive i will have plenty to keep me occupied, i,e cutting for the gear and then glassing ect so im in no rush for the paint.

Again, thankyou and thanks for the intrest and help in my project.

Cheers, Frank.

Jetjockgb

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Hi Frank,

No Probs,
If you like painting your going to love this stuff,the hardest part of it all is the amount of prep work you are going to have to do,I keep on saying this but I have had to learn the hard way and have been striving to get that real chrome finish for years,and yes this is as good as it gets paint wise.

Here is the link to my refurb on a Ziroli P38,I will be using the lesonal on this one ,I'm about the same stage as you,I have just got to start all the riveting[&o]
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_69...tm.htm#7021384

Frank it's a pleasure to help you out wherer I can,I do know how hard it is somtimes to source all these things.
What scheme are you going for,maybe my good friend Jasonp51d can help you out,if there is anything you want to know about the P47 he is your man.
Here is Jason's web site: http://www.361fg.com/

Of to watch the Footie now,what do you think the our chances are!!!!!!!

Cheers Graham
WWW.TIGERMODELS.NET

ramcfarland

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How does this aluminum appearing finish system stand up to gas or glow exhaust residue? Fine aircraft in this thread very fine indeed-

Sheriff of Nottingham

Hello Graham,

Thankyou for the links, brilliant. Really impressed with the http://www.361fg.com/ site, loads of gud stuff on there for us to indulge in. I will make contact with Jason as there is one or two things i need to know. That P38 of yours will be beutiful when its done, its good to know that other people are as keen as myself.


Cheers, Frank

Sheriff of Nottingham

Ive spent absoloutley ages messing about with the cowl. First attempt at checkering, it must of took me 16 hours at least to prep it and about 2 mins to spray it. My wife says i have a illness. Once it all dried thoroughly, ive lightley gone over the rivets and panels with some well worn wire wool to bring em through slightly. Pleased with the outcome.

Sheriff of Nottingham

I have sprayed the first coat of the finish colour. Its from the Warbird range, U.S olive drab. Didnt have no problems useing it, just seems strange putting water through the spray gun. Unbelivable our tuff this stuff is, wet and dries back just like cellulose. Ive decided against a chrome finish but will definitly go with it next time, i will use Lesonal Platinium from Tiger models. I ve added a picture of the scheme im doing.

Thats my oldest son, hes the chief helper.

Sheriff of Nottingham

The second and final coat as now been applied. Im really impressed with this paint, it produces a fine finish and is very hard. I would recommend it, just ensure you have some good spraying tackle and ensure plenty of pressure. I intend to leave the fuse now and concentrate on the wings.

Sheriff of Nottingham

As can be seen in the pics i have made the canopy slide open, i didnt give any thought to locking it in place whilst flying. I am able to get access to the mechanism from inside the fuse and i intend to insert a spring type pushrod which will exit through the bottom of the fuselage. The pin will sit in the rail, behind the canopy slider to lock it in place. Will this be adequete to do the job?

Any comments would be greatly appreciated.


Cheers,

Frank

Jetjockgb

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Hi Frank,
Glad to see your still with us!!!

Frank why dont you put a retract servo in to open and close the canopy!!it seems you have done all the hard work grtting it to slide freely so adding a servo should be sraight forwad,the reson I said retract servo is,they move slow and they are strong enough to keep shut in the air,the down fall though is the travel of the retract servo,it will be open or shut.


Cheers Graham.
WWW.TIGERMODELS.NET

Sheriff of Nottingham

Hello Graham,

Still here, thankyou to yourself and the others for the positive comments. Admin people appear to have solved the problem

I wasnt sure if a servo would be strong enough to constantly hold it shut. As you say, it wouldnt be a problem to istall one, the hard work is done. It is my first attempt at a slider and im chuffed with the way its going. Surprising how strong items can be made using a little inginuerty. ( Blimey, sounds like i know what im talking about!!).

Im after some scale dials for the dash, the scale is 1/7th, do you or know where i may aquire some?? In the past i have used Falcon Avaition who produce first class gear, but i dont think they produce em this scale.


Just spoken to Falcon Aviation, they no longer stock any instruments at all, what a shame!



Thanks for info,

Sheriff of Nottingham

A little more progress. The wheels have finally arrived from Fighterace so i have been able to get on rapidly. Glassed it over the weekend and have just started the panel lining. I have weighed the various parts and i reckon it will probably end up somewhere near the 181b mark. The plan says anything between 12 and 201bs so i am not to concerned, although it does seem heavy for a model of this size. Any comments on this would be appreciated.


Cheers,

Frank.

Chad Veich

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Frank, the one I built was around 17 to 17.5 pounds all up weight and flew beautifully with an OS 1.60 single up front. The airplane would have to be substantially redesigned to come in anywhere near 12 pounds! However, I think with just a little bit of redesign and careful selection of wood you could easily get it down to 15-16 pounds as the airplane is subtantially over-built in my opinion.

Sheriff of Nottingham

Thanks Chad. Like you say, it is over-engineered, infact its built like a Tank. I think a lot of weight could be lossed if i changed the engine (G38 which weighs in at 5.5lb), but Ziroli recommends it so i will go with it. I have hand picked most of my sheeting material in order to maintain a decent weight but the glass and cloth dont do us any favours!! I once saw a thread on the same P47 and they were flying it at 21.5lbs, and they were pleased with its performance. I will be happy if i can make it just under 18lb though.



Pleased to hear yours goes well and thanks for your input.


Cheers,

Frank.

glycol

Frank, youve got a great build going there. I've been considering this as my next project and was hoping to use a zen26. Not sure if thats going to be man enough, I'm not worried about ballistic performance but don't want to give free rides to lumps of ballast.

Look forward to your updates.

Sheriff of Nottingham

Glycol,

Dont hesitate to go ahead and build this airplane. Regarding the engine, the 38 fits in dead right with out having to do any cutting as can be seen in the pics. Also, the balance point is about on the nail without any added weight. I would imagine the 26 would be man enough but i prefer a reserve of power. Ive put the model together for a few pics. Still have under surfaces to paint and the gear doors to complete.

glycol

Thanks Frank, thats my winter build sorted then. Sounds like you wouldn't do anything different if you built another so I might even try Belair's wood kit.

The 38 certainly fits like a dream. Will think on that while I muse over possible colour schemes. She's looking great on her wheels.

Chad Veich

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Glycol, as stated before I think it would be fairly easy to remove some weight without doing a major re-design. Choosing your wood carefully, replacing the 1/8 sheeting on the fuse with 3/32, and a reasonably light finish would probably bring the weight down enough to give great performance with the G-26.

glycol

Thanks Chad, will definately go for it. All I have to do now is enjoy the rest of Franks build in anticipation of its maiden.

Sheriff of Nottingham

Glycol,

You would be better off using 1/32 on the fuse as Chad suggests, it still would be plenty strong enough. I wish i had done but its to late now. Trouble is, Ziroli is use to building huge and heavy and its rubbed off on this kit. Youve probably noticed from the pics ive not added a retractable tailwheel so the weight is less than what it may have been.

Take a look at Grahams models WWW.TIGERMODELS.NET he his using the chrome finish paint and it is super. On my next project i will definitly use his gear.

ramcfarland

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Back on the engine subject if you will ...how about an OS200 4/C instead of the economical to fuel G-26 for your Ziroli plans build ;also it looks to have a more accurate out line than the Top Flites 1/5 and of course the 1/7, that sure does perform-- LOVE the handling qualities-