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Old 03-11-2011, 02:39 PM
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Hopeful all goes well!
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Hopeful all goes well!
Thanks. As a matter of fact, he came home this afternoon and is doing much better. Not out of the woods yet, but much better. I can get back to building and that is about all we can do here. Got another blast of winter last night.[]
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cant fly in that crapp.....yukk?
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cant fly in that crapp.....yukk?
There are guys who install there skis (not on their war birds) and go fly anyway, with their backs up to the burn barrel for heat. I've never been one of those guys.
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I was delighted to have the postman bring me the nicely packed and insured box from Down & Locked today. I finally got my first look at their handy work, and I must say, it looks very good. Here is the newly converted gear, and their sequencer with a handy hand held programmer.
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Here is picture to show a comparison of size to the original air cylinders. As you can see, if the air cylinders you now use will fit, their conversion will, as it takes less space.
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Old 03-14-2011, 07:23 AM
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Set us up a video Gary!
Looking forward to seeing them in action at Top Gun. Time will test the product and so will the Top Gun crosswinds!
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This is their sequencer with it's nice hand held programmer and instructions.
You may notice that the circuit board has shifted in it's case. This is explained in the instructions. They have mounted it in dialectic foam for shock and vibration resistance. It is easy to reposition if need be.

We will get this all installed and post some video of it in operation ASAP.

Also, We will have all this at Toledo for those who may want to see this first hand, and can attend that show.
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Set us up a video Gary!
Looking forward to seeing them in action at Top Gun. Time will test the product and so will the Top Gun crosswinds!
Will do, and roger that.

BTW, these gear are the first to come with a new, more powerful motor (this shortens the cycle speed). Down & Locked has been wanting to use it but availability was an issue. They have that solved and we are the first to get it. Also included with this gear are the new coated screw jacks. These have a backed on coating for wear resistance that eliminates the need for periodic user applied lubrication. Maintenance free is very nice, plus, the operation is virtually friction free.
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The plane is in Brian's shop right now, and he is on midnights and sleeping, so he is unaware this stuff came. Can't wait to take it over this evening and get things going.
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cant fly in that crapp.....yukk?
There are guys who install there skis (not on their war birds) and go fly anyway, with their backs up to the burn barrel for heat. I've never been one of those guys.
We had a great time last mnth out in Grafton,, you should have been there, getting stuck inthe snow, flying off Ice.. Good Chili,, touch and go landing while missing a ski

good times


p.s.
Glad the Little Future warbird Pilot is OK
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cant fly in that crapp.....yukk?
There are guys who install there skis (not on their war birds) and go fly anyway, with their backs up to the burn barrel for heat. I've never been one of those guys.
We had a great time last mnth out in Grafton,, you should have been there, getting stuck inthe snow, flying off Ice.. Good Chili,, touch and go landing while missing a ski

good times


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Glad the Little Future warbird Pilot is OK
I'm happy for you guys out there. Would like to see video of the touch and go though.

BTW, what happened to the war bird event coverage. Didn't see anything posted.

Thanks for thinking of the little guy. He is doing great now.
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Update on the gear. IT WORKS!!!! However, seems they programed it for a P-51 instead of the P-47 (inner door closes after the mains come down). A simple phone call to Mitch, and a properly programmed sequencer is on the way. We will send this one back. I may get some video before pulling it. We'll see.
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cant fly in that crapp.....yukk?
There are guys who install there skis (not on their war birds) and go fly anyway, with their backs up to the burn barrel for heat. I've never been one of those guys.
We had a great time last mnth out in Grafton,, you should have been there, getting stuck inthe snow, flying off Ice.. Good Chili,, touch and go landing while missing a ski

good times


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Glad the Little Future warbird Pilot is OK
I'm happy for you guys out there. Would like to see video of the touch and go though.

BTW, what happened to the war bird event coverage. Didn't see anything posted.

Thanks for thinking of the little guy. He is doing great now.
They haven't been keeping up with the website updatres,, I Volunteered to help, but so far No Joy,, all I have is what I posted up earlier,,
The Club Pres bought a fancy new Vid camera,, you'll have to bring Voodoo out again ;-)

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You mean Zombie? Close brother, close. I guess they are in the same family
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LOL, Wife was yelling in my ear,,, sorry bout dat
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LOL, Wife was yelling in my ear,,, sorry bout dat
Hey, I have one of those too. After 38 years of marriage, she still has a set of pipes on her. You'd think she would get tired.
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Here is a video of the newly converted gear in action. The P-51 configuration will be corrected.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=taAHK-F51jA

We are using Hitec digital servos on the doors, and have them programmed to 10% speed.
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I also succumb to my obsessing over the dummy engine, and installed the lower cylinder for static display. It is retained with Velcro, and can easily be popped out leaving behind it's silhouette and exposing the fins of the gas engine behind, to allow greater cooling when flying.
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sweet !!!
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Hi Gary it's great both the gear and the addition of the cylendar. If you had not mentioned it I don't think anyone would be able to tell the differance. Do you remember what digital servos you used on the gear doors? . Starting a list of things to get for mine so It will be helpfull to know what servos to get. thanks John T.
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Gary,

Your retracts sound exactly like the ones I had installed in a pattern plane. When the motors were running to "retract" the gear, they were struggling, just like yours. Not good. They will go out. First they will get to where they'll barely lift the legs. Then, they'll get to where they won't lift the legs at all. Just a warning.

Not bashing what you're trying because I've been there just like you. My bet is that you'll be going back to air. Nobody has come out with a motor that is compact, yet strong/durable enough to stand up to the weight they have to lift. Maybe one day they'll get it right. Til then, good luck.
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Gary,

Your retracts sound exactly like the ones I had installed in a pattern plane. When the motors were running to ''retract'' the gear, they were struggling, just like yours. Not good. They will go out. First they will get to where they'll barely lift the legs. Then, they'll get to where they won't lift the legs at all. Just a warning.

Not bashing what you're trying because I've been there just like you. My bet is that you'll be going back to air. Nobody has come out with a motor that is compact, yet strong/durable enough to stand up to the weight they have to lift. Maybe one day they'll get it right. Til then, good luck.
Not sure what kind you used, but these are not direct drive. They have a transmission. Yes, they slow down, but they are not pulling an inordinate amount of current. Mitch was going to install a new, larger motor in mine, that was the plan, but after testing, he found that the new motor was showing burn on the inside after only 50 cycles. The motror he uses now, shows no wear after 500 cycles. Also, the jack screws he installed have a new anti friction coating. We are the first to have and test them. I appreciate the R&D he does. It is refreshing, to say the least.

Time will tell, but I am pumped about the prospect of eliminating the problematic air systems we have dealt with for decades.

I will continue to keep you guys abreast of our experiences with this new system.
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Hi Gary it's great both the gear and the addition of the cylendar. If you had not mentioned it I don't think anyone would be able to tell the differance. Do you remember what digital servos you used on the gear doors? . Starting a list of things to get for mine so It will be helpfull to know what servos to get. thanks John T.
Yes, it is the Hitec HS 5485 sport servo. About 90 oz at 6V and Karbonite gears. We didn't figure they required high end servos. They are about $25. So far, they perform fine and are the less expensive of the programmable servos. You MUST use programmable to cut the speed down. We have them cut to 10%.
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We are pumped!!! Just got back from our first show for 2011. 1st place for Zombie (scale), and 3rd place (12lbs or less sport) for our new Enforcer bashed to electric.

Mike Barbee was second in 'scale'.

Here they are.
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