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Old 12-09-2014, 08:12 AM
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Ernie,
You win!!!!!
Yes it is the Curtis SC-1 Seahawk. My next hint was that is was a tricycle with fixed wheels.
Dad spoke very fondly of the plane a real hot rod for the day. They did there transition training in a ratted out F4U Corsair to get used to the performace of the plane.
Dad was the senior Naval Aviator as a Lt. on board the USS Chicago CA-36. I wish I were smart enough to scan pictures for posting here. I have lots of pictures from his scrapbook. He was involved in the shore bombardment of Japan in the waning days of the war, there are some pictures of him flying off the river in Shangahi at the Bund post war.
One of the guys in his detachment went on to do the test work on the Sea Dart.
I am amazed you got is so quickly!
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Originally Posted by elmshoot
Ernie,
You win!!!!!
Yes it is the Curtis SC-1 Seahawk. My next hint was that is was a tricycle with fixed wheels.
Dad spoke very fondly of the plane a real hot rod for the day. They did there transition training in a ratted out F4U Corsair to get used to the performace of the plane.
Dad was the senior Naval Aviator as a Lt. on board the USS Chicago CA-36. I wish I were smart enough to scan pictures for posting here. I have lots of pictures from his scrapbook. He was involved in the shore bombardment of Japan in the waning days of the war, there are some pictures of him flying off the river in Shangahi at the Bund post war.
One of the guys in his detachment went on to do the test work on the Sea Dart.
I am amazed you got is so quickly!
Sparky


Sparky; I actually had to do a bit of digging to get the answer. In retrospect, I should probably have left it alone and let it run for a bit. It was a good question and deserved to be highlighted. For some reason, when I saw the reference to your father, it intrigued me and I went looking for the answer. And I think people on this forum will agree I can be pretty persistent if nothing else.

Have some one help you with getting your old photos posted. If not here, then somewhere. I'd love to see them. Things like that help to bring History alive. Thanks for a great question, and a bit of personal History. Thanks; Ernie P.
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Here we go again. This one won't last long; but it is interesting. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

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(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.
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Originally Posted by Ernie P.
Here we go again. This one won't last long; but it is interesting. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.
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Originally Posted by Ernie P.
Here we go again. This one won't last long; but it is interesting. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.
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A couple of very good and well thought out answers; just not where we're headed. Nice to see such active participation, though; so here's another clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

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(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.

(2) This weapons system, for such it was, was based upon the experiences of an ally, who used similar systems quite successfully.
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Bullett interupter to shoot through the propeller. I believe it was Eindecker who used it first.
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Originally Posted by elmshoot
Bullett interupter to shoot through the propeller. I believe it was Eindecker who used it first.
Sparky

Nice try, Sparky; but not correct. Here's an evening clue to speed your search. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.

(2) This weapons system, for such it was, was based upon the experiences of an ally, who used similar systems quite successfully.

(3) In fact, this weapons system has offshoots still in use today.
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Originally Posted by Ernie P.
Nice try, Sparky; but not correct. Here's an evening clue to speed your search. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.

(2) This weapons system, for such it was, was based upon the experiences of an ally, who used similar systems quite successfully.

(3) In fact, this weapons system has offshoots still in use today.
OH Crap " that's as plain as the Nose on your face" as they say.

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[h=1]AGM-28 Hound Dog[/h] From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For other uses, see Hound Dog (disambiguation).
[TABLE="class: infobox vcard, width: 22"]
[TR]
[TH="class: hproduct, bgcolor: #B0C4DE, colspan: 2, align: center"]AGM-28 Hound Dog[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"] AGM-28 in flight (showing the nose-high attitude)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Type[/TH]
[TD]Cruise Missile[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Place of origin[/TH]
[TD]United States[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #B0C4DE, colspan: 2, align: center"]Service history[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]In service[/TH]
[TD]September 13, 1960[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #B0C4DE, colspan: 2, align: center"]Production history[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Manufacturer[/TH]
[TD]North American Aviation[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Unit cost[/TH]
[TD]$690,073[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Produced[/TH]
[TD]April 1959[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #B0C4DE, colspan: 2, align: center"]Specifications[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Weight[/TH]
[TD]4,603 kilograms (10,147 lb).[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Length[/TH]
[TD]12.95 metres (42 ft 6 in).[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Height[/TH]
[TD]2.84 metres (9 ft 4 in).[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Diameter[/TH]
[TD]710 millimetres (28 in).[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Warhead[/TH]
[TD]790 kilograms (1,742 lb) W28 Class D bomb.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"] Detonation
mechanism
[/TH]
[TD]Airburst or Contact[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"] [HR][/HR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Engine[/TH]
[TD]Pratt & Whitney J52-P-3 turbojet; 33 kN (7,500 lbf).[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Wingspan[/TH]
[TD]3.71 metres (12 ft 2 in).[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"] Operational
range
[/TH]
[TD]1,263 kilometres (785 mi).[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Flight ceiling[/TH]
[TD]17,100 metres (56,200 ft).[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Flight altitude[/TH]
[TD]61 to 17,069 metres (200 to 56,000 ft).[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Speed[/TH]
[TD]Mach 2.1.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"] Guidance
system
[/TH]
[TD]Inertial with star-tracker correction.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"] Launch
platform
[/TH]
[TD]B-52 Stratofortress.[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
The North American Aviation AGM-28 Hound Dog was a supersonic, jet propelled, air-launched cruise missile. The Hound Dog missile was first given the designation B-77, then redesignated GAM-77, and finally as AGM-28. The Hound Dog was conceived as a temporary stand-off weapon for the B-52 Stratofortressbomber, to be used until the GAM-87 Skybolt air-launched ballistic missile was available. Instead, the Skybolt missile was cancelled within a few years, and the Hound Dog was deployed for 15 years until the missile was replaced by newer weapons, including the SRAM missile and the AGM-86 Air-Launched Cruise Missile.
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Originally Posted by HoundDog
OH Crap " that's as plain as the Nose on your face" as they say.

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AGM-28 Hound Dog

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For other uses, see Hound Dog (disambiguation).
[TABLE="class: infobox vcard, width: 22"]
[TR]
[TH="class: hproduct, bgcolor: #b0c4de, colspan: 2"]AGM-28 Hound Dog
[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"] AGM-28 in flight (showing the nose-high attitude)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Type
[/TH]
[TD]Cruise Missile
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Place of origin
[/TH]
[TD]United States
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #b0c4de, colspan: 2"]Service history
[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]In service
[/TH]
[TD]September 13, 1960
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #b0c4de, colspan: 2"]Production history
[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Manufacturer
[/TH]
[TD]North American Aviation
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Unit cost
[/TH]
[TD]$690,073
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Produced
[/TH]
[TD]April 1959
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #b0c4de, colspan: 2"]Specifications
[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Weight
[/TH]
[TD]4,603 kilograms (10,147 lb).
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Length
[/TH]
[TD]12.95 metres (42 ft 6 in).
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Height
[/TH]
[TD]2.84 metres (9 ft 4 in).
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Diameter
[/TH]
[TD]710 millimetres (28 in).
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Warhead
[/TH]
[TD]790 kilograms (1,742 lb) W28 Class D bomb.
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Detonation
mechanism
[/TH]
[TD]Airburst or Contact
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"][HR][/HR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Engine
[/TH]
[TD]Pratt & Whitney J52-P-3 turbojet; 33 kN (7,500 lbf).
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Wingspan
[/TH]
[TD]3.71 metres (12 ft 2 in).
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Operational
range
[/TH]
[TD]1,263 kilometres (785 mi).
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Flight ceiling
[/TH]
[TD]17,100 metres (56,200 ft).
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Flight altitude
[/TH]
[TD]61 to 17,069 metres (200 to 56,000 ft).
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Speed
[/TH]
[TD]Mach 2.1.
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Guidance
system
[/TH]
[TD]Inertial with star-tracker correction.
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]Launch
platform
[/TH]
[TD]B-52 Stratofortress.
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
The North American Aviation AGM-28 Hound Dog was a supersonic, jet propelled, air-launched cruise missile. The Hound Dog missile was first given the designation B-77, then redesignated GAM-77, and finally as AGM-28. The Hound Dog was conceived as a temporary stand-off weapon for the B-52 Stratofortressbomber, to be used until the GAM-87 Skybolt air-launched ballistic missile was available. Instead, the Skybolt missile was cancelled within a few years, and the Hound Dog was deployed for 15 years until the missile was replaced by newer weapons, including the SRAM missile and the AGM-86 Air-Launched Cruise Missile.

HoundDog; that would be a bit of serendipity, were it only so. Unfortunately, it isn't the Hound Dog; so I'll award you an extra late night clue for a most entertaining (and not such a bad) guess. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.

(2) This weapons system, for such it was, was based upon the experiences of an ally, who used similar systems quite successfully.

(3) In fact, this weapons system has offshoots still in use today.

(4) It was intended to be deployed at high altitudes.
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Originally Posted by Ernie P.
HoundDog; that would be a bit of serendipity, were it only so. Unfortunately, it isn't the Hound Dog; so I'll award you an extra late night clue for a most entertaining (and not such a bad) guess. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.

(2) This weapons system, for such it was, was based upon the experiences of an ally, who used similar systems quite successfully.

(3) In fact, this weapons system has offshoots still in use today.

(4) It was intended to be deployed at high altitudes.
Oh they did develop Ronny Regains STAR WARS ...
Old 12-10-2014, 02:43 AM
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Still no correct answers, though not for lack of trying; so here's an early morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.

(2) This weapons system, for such it was, was based upon the experiences of an ally, who used similar systems quite successfully.

(3) In fact, this weapons system has offshoots still in use today.

(4) It was intended to be deployed at high altitudes.

(5) It went supersonic.
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Dd I say the YF-12 or the SR-71 yet ... Can't Remember.

OH OH OH I know Santa's Sleigh and Eight tiny Rain deer. Gotta be Hypersonic
he's even faster than UPS, Delivers presents to every kid in the world. The good ones only.
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Originally Posted by HoundDog
Dd I say the YF-12 or the SR-71 yet ... Can't Remember.

OH OH OH I know Santa's Sleigh and Eight tiny Rain deer. Gotta be Hypersonic
he's even faster than UPS, Delivers presents to every kid in the world. The good ones only.

Sorry HoundDog; not the SR-71 or any of it's family; and not Santa's sleigh either. But here's an extra, and very big, clue to speed you along. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.

(2) This weapons system, for such it was, was based upon the experiences of an ally, who used similar systems quite successfully.

(3) In fact, this weapons system has offshoots still in use today.

(4) It was intended to be deployed at high altitudes.

(5) It went supersonic.

(6) If ever the axiom “bigger is better” applied, this was it.
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Space Shuttle the Russians have/Had the
[h=1]Buran (spacecraft)[/h]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buran_%28spacecraft%29
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Originally Posted by HoundDog
Space Shuttle the Russians have/Had the
Buran (spacecraft)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buran_%28spacecraft%29

HoundDog; you are persistent, though off target for the moment. Here's a bonus clue to help you out and reward your efforts. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.

(2) This weapons system, for such it was, was based upon the experiences of an ally, who used similar systems quite successfully.

(3) In fact, this weapons system has offshoots still in use today.

(4) It was intended to be deployed at high altitudes.

(5) It went supersonic.

(6) If ever the axiom “bigger is better” applied, this was it.

(7) Stabilization of the unit was very important; and was carefully calculated.
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Afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.

(2) This weapons system, for such it was, was based upon the experiences of an ally, who used similar systems quite successfully.

(3) In fact, this weapons system has offshoots still in use today.

(4) It was intended to be deployed at high altitudes.

(5) It went supersonic.

(6) If ever the axiom “bigger is better” applied, this was it.

(7) Stabilization of the unit was very important; and was carefully calculated.

(8) It was carefully designed to be highly aerodynamic.
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Evening clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.

(2) This weapons system, for such it was, was based upon the experiences of an ally, who used similar systems quite successfully.

(3) In fact, this weapons system has offshoots still in use today.

(4) It was intended to be deployed at high altitudes.

(5) It went supersonic.

(6) If ever the axiom “bigger is better” applied, this was it.

(7) Stabilization of the unit was very important; and was carefully calculated.

(8) It was carefully designed to be highly aerodynamic.

(9) Designed to spin rapidly.
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What the hey; here's a late evening clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.

(2) This weapons system, for such it was, was based upon the experiences of an ally, who used similar systems quite successfully.

(3) In fact, this weapons system has offshoots still in use today.

(4) It was intended to be deployed at high altitudes.

(5) It went supersonic.

(6) If ever the axiom “bigger is better” applied, this was it.

(7) Stabilization of the unit was very important; and was carefully calculated.

(8) It was carefully designed to be highly aerodynamic.

(9) Designed to spin rapidly.

(10) It had twice the power of previous designs.
Old 12-11-2014, 02:33 AM
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Early morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.

(2) This weapons system, for such it was, was based upon the experiences of an ally, who used similar systems quite successfully.

(3) In fact, this weapons system has offshoots still in use today.

(4) It was intended to be deployed at high altitudes.

(5) It went supersonic.

(6) If ever the axiom “bigger is better” applied, this was it.

(7) Stabilization of the unit was very important; and was carefully calculated.

(8) It was carefully designed to be highly aerodynamic.

(9) Designed to spin rapidly.

(10) It had twice the power of previous designs.

(11) Although it was designed to cause a real shiver in enemy targets, it was likewise designed to leave not a ripple to be seen.
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I keep thinking of some sort of air to air missile.
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The Tallboy and Grand Slam bombs designed by Barnes Wallis?
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No correct answers thus far; although SimonCraig is starting to sniff around the right direction. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.

(2) This weapons system, for such it was, was based upon the experiences of an ally, who used similar systems quite successfully.

(3) In fact, this weapons system has offshoots still in use today.

(4) It was intended to be deployed at high altitudes.

(5) It went supersonic.

(6) If ever the axiom “bigger is better” applied, this was it.

(7) Stabilization of the unit was very important; and was carefully calculated.

(8) It was carefully designed to be highly aerodynamic.

(9) Designed to spin rapidly.

(10) It had twice the power of previous designs.

(11) Although it was designed to cause a real shiver in enemy targets, it was likewise designed to leave not a ripple to be seen.

(12) Interestingly, this weapons system was designed to be used by a new aircraft being developed; and then the aircraft itself was redesigned to carry this weapons system.
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It must be a bomb. There are a few possibilities. My guess is the ...

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Originally Posted by perttime
It must be a bomb. There are a few possibilities. My guess is the ...

Disney Bomb

Not the Disney Bomb, perttime; although it does seem to fit most, but not all, of the clues. Maybe this afternoon clue will help. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird system or equipment do I describe?

Clues:

(1) Usually, systems are designed to fit existing aircraft. And, sometimes, warbirds are designed or redesigned to carry a paticularly valuable bit of hardware. This is one such case.

(2) This weapons system, for such it was, was based upon the experiences of an ally, who used similar systems quite successfully.

(3) In fact, this weapons system has offshoots still in use today.

(4) It was intended to be deployed at high altitudes.

(5) It went supersonic.

(6) If ever the axiom “bigger is better” applied, this was it.

(7) Stabilization of the unit was very important; and was carefully calculated.

(8) It was carefully designed to be highly aerodynamic.

(9) Designed to spin rapidly.

(10) It had twice the power of previous designs.

(11) Although it was designed to cause a real shiver in enemy targets, it was likewise designed to leave not a ripple to be seen.

(12) Interestingly, this weapons system was designed to be used by a new aircraft being developed; and then the aircraft itself was redesigned to carry this weapons system.

(13) A key component was the creation of a new type of cavity.


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