SimonCraig1

A work of art (if you're an engineering nerd like me)
Anyway next quiz, I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record for the war he fought in.
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.

FlyerInOKC

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I'm going to guess David S. Mc Campbell or Hans-Joachim Marseille?

SimonCraig1

Sorry no neither of these pilots.
I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in.
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed after his first successful combat.

Hydro Junkie

Joe Foss, USMC, flying a Wildcat from Henderson Field

SimonCraig1

Sorry no.
I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in.
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record.

SimonCraig1

I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in.
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record.
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.

SimonCraig1

I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in.
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record.
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.
6. After the crash landing he made his way to his front line an brought back medical assistance to his observer who had been wounded.

SimonCraig1

I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in.
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record.
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.
6. After the crash landing he made his way to his front line an brought back medical assistance to his observer who had been wounded.
7. The three aircraft shot down were two-seater reconnaissance planes.

SimonCraig1

Bonus clue as my posting will be intermittent over the weekend.
I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in.
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record.
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.
6. After the crash landing he made his way to his front line an brought back medical assistance to his observer who had been wounded.
7. The three aircraft shot down were two-seater reconnaissance planes.
8. All his other victories were over single-seater scouts.

SimonCraig1

I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in.
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record.
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.
6. After the crash landing he made his way to his front line an brought back medical assistance to his observer who had been wounded.
7. The three aircraft shot down were two-seater reconnaissance planes.
8. All his other victories were over single-seater scouts.
9. Among the medal he was awarded was the Italian 'Bronze Medal of Military Valor'.

SimonCraig1

I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in.
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record.
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.
6. After the crash landing he made his way to his front line an brought back medical assistance to his observer who had been wounded.
7. The three aircraft shot down were two-seater reconnaissance planes.
8. All his other victories were over single-seater scouts.
9. Among the medal he was awarded was the Italian 'Bronze Medal of Military Valor'.
10. The more famous ace was shot down by another famous ace.

SimonCraig1

I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in.
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record.
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.
6. After the crash landing he made his way to his front line an brought back medical assistance to his observer who had been wounded.
7. The three aircraft shot down were two-seater reconnaissance planes.
8. All his other victories were over single-seater scouts.
9. Among the medal he was awarded was the Italian 'Bronze Medal of Military Valor'.
10. The more famous ace was shot down by another famous ace.
11. He assisted the famous ace in overcoming a major obstacle for early scout pilots.

SimonCraig1

I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in.
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record.
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.
6. After the crash landing he made his way to his front line an brought back medical assistance to his observer who had been wounded.
7. The three aircraft shot down were two-seater reconnaissance planes.
8. All his other victories were over single-seater scouts.
9. Among the medal he was awarded was the Italian 'Bronze Medal of Military Valor'.
10. The more famous ace was shot down by another famous ace.
11. He assisted the famous ace in overcoming a major obstacle for early scout pilots.
12. All his victories we in a two seater fighter.

SimonCraig1

I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in.
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record.
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.
6. After the crash landing he made his way to his front line an brought back medical assistance to his observer who had been wounded.
7. The three aircraft shot down were two-seater reconnaissance planes.
8. All his other victories were over single-seater scouts.
9. Among the medal he was awarded was the Italian 'Bronze Medal of Military Valor'.
10. The more famous ace was shot down by another famous ace.
11. He assisted the famous ace in overcoming a major obstacle for early scout pilots.
12. All his victories we in a two seater fighter.
13. The other medals awarded were standard for pilots of the air force he served, though unusual.

SimonCraig1

SimonCraig1

Running out of clues here.... this one should narrow it down.
I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in.
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record.
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.
6. After the crash landing he made his way to his front line an brought back medical assistance to his observer who had been wounded.
7. The three aircraft shot down were two-seater reconnaissance planes.
8. All his other victories were over single-seater scouts.
9. Among the medal he was awarded was the Italian 'Bronze Medal of Military Valor'.
10. The more famous ace was shot down by another famous ace.
11. He assisted the famous ace in overcoming a major obstacle for early scout pilots.
12. All his victories we in a two seater fighter.
13. The other medals awarded were standard for pilots of the air force he served, though unusual.
14. His observers were responsible for several of the victories.
15. His observers frequently outranked him.

SimonCraig1

I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in.
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record.
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.
6. After the crash landing he made his way to his front line an brought back medical assistance to his observer who had been wounded.
7. The three aircraft shot down were two-seater reconnaissance planes.
8. All his other victories were over single-seater scouts.
9. Among the medal he was awarded was the Italian 'Bronze Medal of Military Valor'.
10. The more famous ace was shot down by another famous ace.
11. He assisted the famous ace in overcoming a major obstacle for early scout pilots.
12. All his victories we in a two seater fighter.
13. The other medals awarded were standard for pilots of the air force he served, though unusual.
14. His observers were responsible for several of the victories.
15. His observers frequently outranked him.
16. almost all their victories were in the same aircraft.

SimonCraig1

So the clues are all there. To narrow things down, I'll start expand on some of them until someone can guess the identity of the aviator.
I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in. (WWI)
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record.
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.
6. After the crash landing he made his way to his front line an brought back medical assistance to his observer who had been wounded.
7. The three aircraft shot down were two-seater reconnaissance planes.
8. All his other victories were over single-seater scouts.
9. Among the medal he was awarded was the Italian 'Bronze Medal of Military Valor'. (Though he was not from Italy or on the Italian front.)
10. The more famous ace was shot down by another famous ace.
11. He assisted the famous ace in overcoming a major obstacle for early scout pilots.
12. All his victories we in a two seater fighter.
13. The other medals awarded were standard for pilots of the air force he served, though unusual.
14. His observers were responsible for several of the victories.
15. His observers frequently outranked him.
16. almost all their victories were in the same aircraft.

SimonCraig1

So the clues are all there. To narrow things down, I'll start expand on some of them until someone can guess the identity of the aviator.
I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in. (WWI)
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed (in no-mans land) after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record.
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.
6. After the crash landing he made his way to his front line an brought back medical assistance to his observer who had been wounded.
7. The three aircraft shot down were two-seater reconnaissance planes.
8. All his other victories were over single-seater scouts. (predominantly Albatross DV)
9. Among the medal he was awarded was the Italian 'Bronze Medal of Military Valor'. (Though he was not from Italy or on the Italian front.)
10. The more famous ace was shot down by another famous ace.
11. He assisted the famous ace in overcoming a major obstacle for early scout pilots.
12. All his victories we in a two seater fighter.
13. The other medals awarded were standard for pilots of the air force he served, though unusual.
14. His observers were responsible for several of the victories.
15. His observers frequently outranked him.
16. almost all their victories were in the same aircraft.

SimonCraig1

double post

SimonCraig1

So the clues are all there. To narrow things down, I'll start expand on some of them until someone can guess the identity of the aviator.
I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in. (WWI)
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed (in no-mans land) after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record.
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.
6. After the crash landing he made his way to his front line an brought back medical assistance to his observer who had been wounded.
7. The three aircraft shot down were two-seater reconnaissance planes.
8. All his other victories were over single-seater scouts. (predominantly Albatross DV)
9. Among the medal he was awarded was the Italian 'Bronze Medal of Military Valor'. (Though he was not from Italy or on the Italian front.)
10. The more famous ace was shot down by another famous ace.
11. He assisted the famous ace in overcoming a major obstacle for early scout pilots.
12. All his victories we in a two seater fighter. (Bristol F.2B Fighter)
13. The other medals awarded were standard for pilots of the air force he served, though unusual. (RFC/RAF)
14. His observers were responsible for several of the victories.
15. His observers frequently outranked him.
16. almost all their victories were in the same aircraft.

FlyerInOKC

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Charles Gass or Alfred Atkey?

SimonCraig1

Excellent guesses Flyer, the pilot has much in common with Gass and Atkey, but one distinction that singles him out. Bonus clue time.
So the clues are all there. To narrow things down, I'll start expand on some of them until someone can guess the identity of the aviator.
I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in. (WWI)
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed (in no-mans land) after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record. (The early problem of aiming a machine gun while flying a single seater tractor Scout.)
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.
6. After the crash landing he made his way to his front line an brought back medical assistance to his observer who had been wounded.
7. The three aircraft shot down were two-seater reconnaissance planes.
8. All his other victories were over single-seater scouts. (predominantly Albatross DV)
9. Among the medal he was awarded was the Italian 'Bronze Medal of Military Valor'. (Though he was not from Italy or on the Italian front.)
10. The more famous ace was shot down by another famous ace.
11. He assisted the famous ace in overcoming a major obstacle for early scout pilots.
12. All his victories we in a two seater fighter. (Bristol F.2B Fighter)
13. The other medals awarded were standard for pilots of the air force he served, though unusual. (RFC/RAF)
14. His observers were responsible for several of the victories.
15. His observers frequently outranked him.
16. almost all their victories were in the same aircraft.
17. He has much in common with Charles Gass or Alfred Atkey but one distinction that singles him out.

SimonCraig1

If anyone want to follow the trail, this clue should do it....
I'm looking for a pilot:
1. An Ace, who held a record in the war he fought in. (WWI)
2. He once shot down three aircraft within 10 minutes.
3. He suffered engine failure and crash landed (in no-mans land) after his first successful combat.
4. He assisted another better known ace in achieving his record. (The early problem of aiming a machine gun while flying a single seater tractor Scout.)
5. He ended his war with a bigger total of victories than the famous ace but he is not well known.
6. After the crash landing he made his way to his front line an brought back medical assistance to his observer who had been wounded.
7. The three aircraft shot down were two-seater reconnaissance planes.
8. All his other victories were over single-seater scouts. (predominantly Albatross DV)
9. Among the medal he was awarded was the Italian 'Bronze Medal of Military Valor'. (Though he was not from Italy or on the Italian front.)
10. The more famous ace was shot down by the most famous and highest scoring ace of WWI.
11. He assisted the famous ace in overcoming a major obstacle for early scout pilots.
12. All his victories we in a two seater fighter. (Bristol F.2B Fighter)
13. The other medals awarded were standard for pilots of the air force he served, though unusual. (RFC/RAF)
14. His observers were responsible for several of the victories.
15. His observers frequently outranked him.
16. almost all their victories were in the same aircraft.
17. He has much in common with Charles Gass or Alfred Atkey but one distinction that singles him out.

Ernie P.

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I suppose I have time to run the next question. I can always pump out more clues, right? Thanks; Ernie P.

Flight Sergeant Ernest John Elton DCM, MM (25 December 1893 – 8 March 1958) was the highest scoring British non-commissioned flying ace during World War I. He was credited with 17 aerial victories.

Elton enlisted in the Royal Flying Corps on 11 August 1914, serving as an Air Mechanic.[2] While serving with No. 6 Squadron in France in June 1915, he assisted Captain Lanoe Hawker in developing a machine gun mount for the Bristol Scout. In late 1916, he returned to England to train as a pilot, and was later assigned to No. 22 Squadron.

On 26 February 1918, Elton piloted a Bristol F.2 Fighter to his first victory, when he destroyed two Albatros D.Vs near Lens. Following the engagement his engine failed, and Elton glided the six miles back to the Allied lines, but crash-landed in no man's land. His observer/gunner Sergeant Hagen had been wounded in the leg, so Elton dragged him out of the aircraft and into a shell hole, then crawled and ran 200 yards to the Allied lines to fetch help. He returned with a first aid man to dress Hagen's wounds, then sat with him until dark, when he was stretchered back to safety. The aircraft was later recovered and was found to be riddled with bullet holes, including in the fuel tank under the pilot's seat.

In the next 31 days, Elton would be credited with destroying twelve more enemy aircraft and driving two down out of control. He scored ten of his wins himself, and his gunner in the rear seat scored six times. His string culminated in a triple victory on 29 March 1918, when he destroyed three German two-seater reconnaissance planes in ten minutes. They were the only two-seaters he ever destroyed; the remainder of his wins were over enemy fighters, principally Albatros D.Vs.

Elton was awarded the Military Medal "for bravery in the Field" in April 1918, and in June was awarded the Distinguished Conduct Medal, his citation reading:
1429 Sjt. E. J. Elton, MM, RAF.For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty. During the past month he has destroyed six hostile machines and brought down another out of control. On two of these occasions he has caused two enemy planes to crash to earth, although on each occasion his formation was fighting against very heavy odds. He has at all times displayed the most marked courage, skill and determination.

In September 1918 he was awarded the Bronze Medal of Military Valour by Italy. Elton was discharged from the Royal Air Force in 1922.