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Old 07-14-2017, 03:17 PM
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You are correct Ernie! There were of course many NCO flyers in World War One but most aces were given full commissions, possibly the most famous being McCudden. For some reason Elton never was.
Old 07-14-2017, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SimonCraig1
You are correct Ernie! There were of course many NCO flyers in World War One but most aces were given full commissions, possibly the most famous being McCudden. For some reason Elton never was.
Perhaps because his parents weren't married, which might not have played well in the officers' mess. Great quiz.
Old 07-14-2017, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SimonCraig1
You are correct Ernie! There were of course many NCO flyers in World War One but most aces were given full commissions, possibly the most famous being McCudden. For some reason Elton never was.
Thank you, Sir! I hope my next question is received as well as your last. Well done! Thanks; Ernie P.

Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This warbird bears an iconic name; one known to almost all fans of warbirds.
2. It was produced in many different variants.
3. It was purchased by a number of countries.
4. Some of those countries came into conflict.
Old 07-15-2017, 03:58 AM
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Morning clues. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This warbird bears an iconic name; one known to almost all fans of warbirds.
2. It was produced in many different variants.
3. It was purchased by a number of countries.
4. Some of those countries came into conflict.
5. With each other.
6. Some were built under license.

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Old 07-15-2017, 10:24 AM
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Afternoon clues. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This warbird bears an iconic name; one known to almost all fans of warbirds.
2. It was produced in many different variants.
3. It was purchased by a number of countries.
4. Some of those countries came into conflict.
5. With each other.
6. Some were built under license.
7. In production for more than ten years.
8. Some may well have served on opposite sides.
Old 07-15-2017, 01:05 PM
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Evening clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This warbird bears an iconic name; one known to almost all fans of warbirds.
2. It was produced in many different variants.
3. It was purchased by a number of countries.
4. Some of those countries came into conflict.
5. With each other.
6. Some were built under license.
7. In production for more than ten years.
8. Some may well have served on opposite sides.
9. Used in at least four wars.
Old 07-15-2017, 05:05 PM
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Okay, time to throw out a guess:
The A-26
Old 07-15-2017, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
Okay, time to throw out a guess:
The A-26
A really good guess, Hydro Junkie; but the Invader is not where we're headed. But here's a bonus clue to reward your participation. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This warbird bears an iconic name; one known to almost all fans of warbirds.
2. It was produced in many different variants.
3. It was purchased by a number of countries.
4. Some of those countries came into conflict.
5. With each other.
6. Some were built under license.
7. In production for more than ten years.
8. Some may well have served on opposite sides.
9. Used in at least four wars.
10. And several more localized conflicts.
Old 07-16-2017, 02:53 AM
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And a morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.

Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This warbird bears an iconic name; one known to almost all fans of warbirds.
2. It was produced in many different variants.
3. It was purchased by a number of countries.
4. Some of those countries came into conflict.
5. With each other.
6. Some were built under license.
7. In production for more than ten years.
8. Some may well have served on opposite sides.
9. Used in at least four wars.
10. And several more localized conflicts.
11. It was mainly intended to be a naval aircraft; although it was used by land forces as well.
Old 07-16-2017, 06:45 AM
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Afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This warbird bears an iconic name; one known to almost all fans of warbirds.
2. It was produced in many different variants.
3. It was purchased by a number of countries.
4. Some of those countries came into conflict.
5. With each other.
6. Some were built under license.
7. In production for more than ten years.
8. Some may well have served on opposite sides.
9. Used in at least four wars.
10. And several more localized conflicts.
11. It was mainly intended to be a naval aircraft; although it was used by land forces as well.
12. It was not the only aircraft to use this iconic name
Old 07-16-2017, 07:08 AM
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Sounds like the F4U Corsair. It was designed as a carrier fighter but used primarily by the Marines from shore bases for it's first two years. The name was later reused for the A-7 series since the same company built both planes. One note of interest is that the A-7 was used both by the US Navy AND US Air force, though the USAF used the plane as a fighter rather than a light strike plane

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Old 07-16-2017, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
Sounds like the F4U Corsair. It was designed as a carrier fighter but used primarily by the Marines from shore bases for it's first two years. The name was later reused for the A-7 series since the same company built both planes. One note of interest is that the A-7 was used both by the US Navy AND US Air force, though the USAF used the plane as a fighter rather than a light strike plane
Hydro Junkie; it WAS NOT the F4U Corsair. However, I'm going to give it to you anyhow. You see, if I said you were wrong in your choice of plane, and also said you were very close, then it wouldn't take you or someone else long to figure out the correct answer. On the other hand, if I simply said you were wrong, that would lead you astray. So, I'd rather err on the side of fairness. The plane I was looking for IS the Corsair; but the Vought O2U Corsair; the first Corsair. Over to you, Buddy. Thanks; Ernie P.

Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This warbird bears an iconic name; one known to almost all fans of warbirds.
2. It was produced in many different variants.
3. It was purchased by a number of countries.
4. Some of those countries came into conflict.
5. With each other.
6. Some were built under license.
7. In production for more than ten years.
8. Some may well have served on opposite sides.
9. Used in at least four wars.
10. And several more localized conflicts.
11. It was mainly intended to be a naval aircraft; although it was used by land forces as well.
12. It was not the only aircraft to use this iconic name.
13. But it was the first of at least three by this manufacturer to use the name.
14. It was a biplane.
15. The most famous of the battles in which it engaged was imaginary; in a movie.
16. It had a fuselage formed by steel tube.
17. Wings were wood.
18. Fabric covered.
19. Some had enclosed cockpits.
20. Some had floats.
21. Several hundred were produced.

Answer: The Vought O2U Corsair.

The Vought O2U Corsair was a 1920s biplane scout and observation aircraft. Made by Vought Corporation, the O2U was ordered by the United States Navy (USN) in 1927. Powered by a 400 hp (298 kW) Pratt & Whitney R-1340 Wasp engine, it incorporated a steel-tube fuselage structure and a wood wing structure with fabric covering. Many were seaplanes or amphibians.Two prototypes were ordered in 1926 and tested by the Navy Trial Board before the first production batches were ordered. In 1927, a total of 291 O2Us were produced. The O2U-2, -3 and -4 were ordered in 1928 with minor changes. By 1930 they were being superseded by the O3U which was basically similar to the O2U-4, one variant of which was fitted with the Grummanfloat, and were manufactured until 1936. A total of 289 were built. Many of them had cowled engines and some had enclosed cockpits.The 600-690 hp (448-515 kW) Pratt & Whitney R-1690-42 Hornet engine was used to power Corsairs designated SU-1 to SU-4. The change in designation reflected their role as scouts. A total of 289 SU designated aircraft were built for the USN. No less than 141 Corsairs were still serving with the US Navy and Marines when the US entered World War II.Export versions included the Corsair V-65F, V-66F and V-80Fp for the Argentine Navy, the V-80P for the Peruvian Air Force, and the V-85G for Germany. China purchased Corsair variants V-65C and V-92C. Brazil purchased 36 aircraft V-65B, some hydroplanes V-66B and 15 V-65F.In March 1929, Mexico purchased 12 armed aircraft O2U-2M versions with the 400 hp (300 kW) Wasp engine to quell a military coup; Mexico then built 31 more units under licence, and called them Corsarios Azcαrate O2U-4A. In 1937, Mexico purchased 10 V-99M equipped with the Pratt & Whitney R-1340-T1H-1 550 hp Wasp engine, some of them may have been sent to Spain. China purchased the 42 export versions of O2U-1 from 1929–1933, and 21 export versions of O3U between 1933–1934 and they saw extensive bombing actions. The O2U-1 versions participated in the Central Plains War and in the January 28 Incident against the Japanese targets, while the O3U versions first participated in the Battle of Pingxingguan to support the Chinese ground forces, and later against the Japanese targets in Shanghai.Peru purchased two Vought OSUs which were designated UO-1A. Later, in 1929, 12 O2U-1 were acquired. Used first as trainers, they saw action against APRA rebels in the northern areas of the country, and against Colombian ships and aircraft during the Colombia-Peru War. None were lost due to enemy fire, but several were destroyed due to accidents. These aircraft were also used for light bombing and casualty evacuation by the US Marine Corps during the intervention in Nicaragua in the late 1920s.Thailand used their Corsairs in the Battle of Ko Chang against the French navy. The most famous "combat" operation of this aircraft was shooting the original King Kong off of the Empire State Building.Vought would use the Corsair name again for the F4U fighter in 1938, and the LTV A-7 Corsair II attack bomber in 1963.Variants

XO-28Single example taken on charge by the U.S. Army Air Corps for evaluation with serial 29-323, Wright Field Project Number P-547 powered by a 450 h.p. R-1340-C engine. Destroyed in hangar fire at Wright Field, Ohio, 18 March 1930. O2U-1Two prototypes followed by 130 production aircraft for USN with interchangeable wheel/float landing gear and 28 aircraft for other customers. 450 hp (336 kW) Pratt & Whitney R-1340-88 Wasp engine O2U-2

37 built, increased span and larger rudder

O2U-3110 built (30 for export), revised wing rigging, redesigned tail surfaces and Pratt & Whitney R-1340-C engine O2U-443 built (1 for export. Also seven civilian O2U were built), similar to O2U-3 but with equipment changes O3U-1

87 built, incorporating Grumman amphibious float

O3U-229 built, strengthened airframe, Pratt & Whitney R-1690 Hornet engine O3U-376 built, 550 hp (410 kW) Pratt & Whitney R-1340-12 Wasp engine. O3U-465 built, Pratt & Whitney R-1690-42 Hornet engine. XO3U-5test aircraft with Pratt & Whitney R-1535 engine XO3U-6test aircraft converted from O3U-3 with NACA cowling and enclosed cockpits O3U-632 built, 16 with Pratt & Whitney R-1340-12 Wasp and 16 with Pratt & Whitney R-1340-18 Wasp engines SU-1

Scout version of the O3U based on the O3U-2, 28 built

SU-2

Scout version of the O3U based on the O3U-4, 53 built

SU-3

Variant of the SU-2 with low-pressure tires, 20 built

XSU-4SU-2 converted as a prototype SU-4 variant with a 600 hp R-1690-42 engine, later became an SU-4. SU-4

SU-4 re-engined with a 600 hp R-1690-2 engine, 41 built

One United States Navy O2U-3 evaluated by the United States Army Air Corps.



Vought V-65B

Export version for Brazil – 36



Vought V-65C

Export version for Nationalist China



Vought V-65F

Export version for Argentine Navy



Vought V-66B

Export version for Brazil



Vought V-66E

Export version, one evaluated by the Royal Air Force



Vought V-66F

Export version for Brazil - 15, and Argentine Navy



Vought V-80F

Export version for Argentine Navy



Vought V-80P

Export version for Peruvian Air Force



Vought V-85G

Export version for Germany



Vought V-92C

Export version for Nationalist China



Vought V-93S

Export version of the O3U-6 for Thailand



Vought V-99M

Export version for Mexico

TNCA Corsario Azcαrate 31 O2U-4A aircraft built under license in Mexico.



Vought AXV1

A single O2U supplied to the Imperial Japanese Navy Air Service for evaluation in 1929.Operators

Argentine Navy O2U CorsairThe only survivor of V-93S/SA Corsair fleet, displayed at the Royal Thai Air Force Museum ArgentinaBrazilChinaCubaDominican RepublicGermanyJapanMexicoPeruUnited KingdomUnited StatesThailandSpecifications (SU-4 Corsair)

Data from The Complete Encyclopedia of World Aircraft General characteristicsPerformanceArmament
  • 3x .30 cal (7.62 mm) Browning machine guns, one forward firing and two on a trainable mount in rear cockpit

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Old 07-16-2017, 04:12 PM
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You could have said right company but wrong plane and I wouldn't have minded at all. Now I have to come up with something so give me a day or so.
Old 07-17-2017, 02:59 AM
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Okay guys, I'm going to give you all a weird one. Looking for an aircraft:
1) This plane was deadly to it's targets but never fired a shot in anger through several conflicts
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:37 AM
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Boeing B-47 Stratojet? Introduced during the Korean War served part way thru the Vietnam War but never participated in the hostilities.
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Not the B-47, good guess though. Time for another clue:
Looking for an aircraft:
1) This plane was deadly to it's targets but never fired a shot in anger through several conflicts
2) This plane was originally created as a modification of another plane
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:01 PM
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Sr-71
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Not the SR-71. It wasn't a modification, it was a new design. Time for another clue:
Looking for an aircraft:
1) This plane was deadly to it's targets but never fired a shot in anger through several conflicts
2) This plane was originally created as a modification of another plane
3) This plane was modified to take on a task other aircraft, both larger and smaller, had been used for in combat previously
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Old 07-19-2017, 12:10 AM
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And, once again, it's clue time. Since I'm feeling generous, I'm going to give you all a bonus clue as well:
Looking for an aircraft:
1) This plane was deadly to it's targets but never fired a shot in anger through several conflicts
2) This plane was originally created as a modification of another plane
3) This plane was modified to take on a task other aircraft, both larger and smaller, had been used for in combat previously
4) This plane had two minor changes that were visible from the outside, the rest were internal system changes
5) This plane was initially configured to carry a couple of missiles. They were found to be unneeded and the ability was removed within the first few years of service
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Old 07-19-2017, 10:28 PM
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Guess it's time for another pair of clues:
Looking for an aircraft:
1) This plane was deadly to it's targets but never fired a shot in anger through several conflicts
2) This plane was originally created as a modification of another plane
3) This plane was modified to take on a task other aircraft, both larger and smaller, had been used for in combat previously
4) This plane had two minor changes that were visible from the outside, the rest were internal system changes
5) This plane was initially configured to carry a couple of missiles. They were found to be unneeded and the ability was removed within the first few years of service
6) This plane was finally phased out of service after 27 years and a full 20 years after it's more capable and advanced replacement was brought into service
7) This plane's basic weapons system was used in a total of four different types aircraft, to date, and is still in use today
Good Luck

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Old 07-20-2017, 11:15 PM
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And, once again, it's time for another clue, or three:
Looking for an aircraft:
1) This plane was deadly to it's targets but never fired a shot in anger through several conflicts
2) This plane was originally created as a modification of another plane
3) This plane was modified to take on a task other aircraft, both larger and smaller, had been used for in combat previously
4) This plane had two minor changes that were visible from the outside, the rest were internal system changes
5) This plane was initially configured to carry a couple of missiles. They were found to be unneeded and the ability was removed within the first few years of service
6) This plane was finally phased out of service after 27 years and a full 20 years after it's more capable and advanced replacement was brought into service
7) This plane's basic weapons system was used in a total of four different types aircraft, to date, and is still in use today
8) This plane had a crew of two
9) While this plane was still able to do the job it was originally designed to do, it was never used in that role
10) This plane had two engines
Good Luck

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Old 07-21-2017, 10:14 PM
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I guess it's time for another clue, or two:
Looking for an aircraft:
1) This plane was deadly to it's targets but never fired a shot in anger through several conflicts
2) This plane was originally created as a modification of another plane
3) This plane was modified to take on a task other aircraft, both larger and smaller, had been used for in combat previously
4) This plane had two minor changes that were visible from the outside, the rest were internal system changes
5) This plane was initially configured to carry a couple of missiles. They were found to be unneeded and the ability was removed within the first few years of service
6) This plane was finally phased out of service after 27 years and a full 20 years after it's more capable and advanced replacement was brought into service
7) This plane's basic weapons system was used in a total of four different types aircraft, to date, and is still in use today
8) This plane had a crew of two
9) While this plane was still able to do the job it was originally designed to do, it was never used in that role
10) This plane had two engines
11) This plane was only used by the military of one country
12) This plane only saw action in one conflict and it wasn't a world war
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Grumman E-1 Tracer?
Old 07-22-2017, 05:33 AM
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Nope, not the E-1 Tracer. While the Tracer was a variant of the C-1, it had a crew of at least 4 and never carried missiles. Time for another clue:
Looking for an aircraft:
1) This plane was deadly to it's targets but never fired a shot in anger through several conflicts
2) This plane was originally created as a modification of another plane
3) This plane was modified to take on a task other aircraft, both larger and smaller, had been used for in combat previously
4) This plane had two minor changes that were visible from the outside, the rest were internal system changes
5) This plane was initially configured to carry a couple of missiles. They were found to be unneeded and the ability was removed within the first few years of service
6) This plane was finally phased out of service after 27 years and a full 20 years after it's more capable and advanced replacement was brought into service
7) This plane's basic weapons system was used in a total of four different types aircraft, to date, and is still in use today
8) This plane had a crew of two
9) While this plane was still able to do the job it was originally designed to do, it was never used in that role
10) This plane had two engines
11) This plane was only used by the military of one country
12) This plane only saw action in one conflict and it wasn't a world war
13) This plane 's role was considered to be offensive, not defensive like the Tracer
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A-3, EKA-3 aka the whale.also known flown by the USAF as the B-66 RB-66.
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