Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz
10-02-2017, 01:58 AM
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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P,
What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1. This aircraft was primarily utilized as a trainer.
2. It was often referred to by a particular name; although that name properly belonged to an earlier model of the plane.
3. The first aircraft of this type was actually purchased by the navy.
4. Used by both the army and navy.
5. A high scoring ace was trained on, among others, this aircraft.
6. He was in the navy.
7. More than 100 were produced; quite a number for the time.
8. Tandem seating.
9. Early experiments with firing a machine gun utilized this aircraft.
10. In earlier models of this aircraft, seating was a bit Spartan.
11. This model provided a nacelle, where the instructor and student still sat side by side.
12. Earlier models had wings of equal span; though later models had extensions to the top wing.
13. Main landing gear had four wheels.
14. Twin rudders.
15. Four parallel beams.
16. Two from each wing.
17. Pusher engine.
18. The main landing gear also had skids.
19. No tailwheel; just a skid.
20. As was common practice at the time.
21. A small handful of this type survived WWI; and were among the first to be registered when civil aviation was again allowed.
22. The “high scoring ace” mentioned in (5) was a Canadian.
23. He was RNAS.
24. His name was Collishaw.
25. And he was the famed leader of “The Black Flight”.
26. In earlier models, two seats were mounted on the front edge of the lower wing.
27. Only two countries used this trainer.
28. Those countries were The United Kingdom and Australia.
29. Engine was a Gnome et Rhome.
30. An 80 HP Gnome et Rhome. 31. The machine gun tested (9) was a Lewis type.
32. And the tests were conducted in 1913.
33. They were the first tests of that type by the British.
34. This aircraft was used extensively as a trainer by both the RFC and the RNAS.
What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1. This aircraft was primarily utilized as a trainer.
2. It was often referred to by a particular name; although that name properly belonged to an earlier model of the plane.
3. The first aircraft of this type was actually purchased by the navy.
4. Used by both the army and navy.
5. A high scoring ace was trained on, among others, this aircraft.
6. He was in the navy.
7. More than 100 were produced; quite a number for the time.
8. Tandem seating.
9. Early experiments with firing a machine gun utilized this aircraft.
10. In earlier models of this aircraft, seating was a bit Spartan.
11. This model provided a nacelle, where the instructor and student still sat side by side.
12. Earlier models had wings of equal span; though later models had extensions to the top wing.
13. Main landing gear had four wheels.
14. Twin rudders.
15. Four parallel beams.
16. Two from each wing.
17. Pusher engine.
18. The main landing gear also had skids.
19. No tailwheel; just a skid.
20. As was common practice at the time.
21. A small handful of this type survived WWI; and were among the first to be registered when civil aviation was again allowed.
22. The “high scoring ace” mentioned in (5) was a Canadian.
23. He was RNAS.
24. His name was Collishaw.
25. And he was the famed leader of “The Black Flight”.
26. In earlier models, two seats were mounted on the front edge of the lower wing.
27. Only two countries used this trainer.
28. Those countries were The United Kingdom and Australia.
29. Engine was a Gnome et Rhome.
30. An 80 HP Gnome et Rhome. 31. The machine gun tested (9) was a Lewis type.
32. And the tests were conducted in 1913.
33. They were the first tests of that type by the British.
34. This aircraft was used extensively as a trainer by both the RFC and the RNAS.
10-02-2017, 07:23 PM
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Sorry, guys; long day. Not a bad day, just a long day. Evening clue. Thanks; Ernie P.
What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1. This aircraft was primarily utilized as a trainer.
2. It was often referred to by a particular name; although that name properly belonged to an earlier model of the plane.
3. The first aircraft of this type was actually purchased by the navy.
4. Used by both the army and navy.
5. A high scoring ace was trained on, among others, this aircraft.
6. He was in the navy.
7. More than 100 were produced; quite a number for the time.
8. Tandem seating.
9. Early experiments with firing a machine gun utilized this aircraft.
10. In earlier models of this aircraft, seating was a bit Spartan.
11. This model provided a nacelle, where the instructor and student still sat side by side.
12. Earlier models had wings of equal span; though later models had extensions to the top wing.
13. Main landing gear had four wheels.
14. Twin rudders.
15. Four parallel beams.
16. Two from each wing.
17. Pusher engine.
18. The main landing gear also had skids.
19. No tailwheel; just a skid.
20. As was common practice at the time.
21. A small handful of this type survived WWI; and were among the first to be registered when civil aviation was again allowed.
22. The “high scoring ace” mentioned in (5) was a Canadian.
23. He was RNAS.
24. His name was Collishaw.
25. And he was the famed leader of “The Black Flight”.
26. In earlier models, two seats were mounted on the front edge of the lower wing.
27. Only two countries used this trainer.
28. Those countries were The United Kingdom and Australia.
29. Engine was a Gnome et Rhome.
30. An 80 HP Gnome et Rhome. 31. The machine gun tested (9) was a Lewis type.
32. And the tests were conducted in 1913.
33. They were the first tests of that type by the British.
34. This aircraft was used extensively as a trainer by both the RFC and the RNAS.
35. It was also used by the Central Flying School at Point Cook, Victoria.
What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1. This aircraft was primarily utilized as a trainer.
2. It was often referred to by a particular name; although that name properly belonged to an earlier model of the plane.
3. The first aircraft of this type was actually purchased by the navy.
4. Used by both the army and navy.
5. A high scoring ace was trained on, among others, this aircraft.
6. He was in the navy.
7. More than 100 were produced; quite a number for the time.
8. Tandem seating.
9. Early experiments with firing a machine gun utilized this aircraft.
10. In earlier models of this aircraft, seating was a bit Spartan.
11. This model provided a nacelle, where the instructor and student still sat side by side.
12. Earlier models had wings of equal span; though later models had extensions to the top wing.
13. Main landing gear had four wheels.
14. Twin rudders.
15. Four parallel beams.
16. Two from each wing.
17. Pusher engine.
18. The main landing gear also had skids.
19. No tailwheel; just a skid.
20. As was common practice at the time.
21. A small handful of this type survived WWI; and were among the first to be registered when civil aviation was again allowed.
22. The “high scoring ace” mentioned in (5) was a Canadian.
23. He was RNAS.
24. His name was Collishaw.
25. And he was the famed leader of “The Black Flight”.
26. In earlier models, two seats were mounted on the front edge of the lower wing.
27. Only two countries used this trainer.
28. Those countries were The United Kingdom and Australia.
29. Engine was a Gnome et Rhome.
30. An 80 HP Gnome et Rhome. 31. The machine gun tested (9) was a Lewis type.
32. And the tests were conducted in 1913.
33. They were the first tests of that type by the British.
34. This aircraft was used extensively as a trainer by both the RFC and the RNAS.
35. It was also used by the Central Flying School at Point Cook, Victoria.
10-03-2017, 05:47 AM
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Both good guesses, Hydro Junkie; and you have bracketed the target. But you still have a bit more work to do. Maybe this will help. Thanks; Ernie P.
What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1. This aircraft was primarily utilized as a trainer.
2. It was often referred to by a particular name; although that name properly belonged to an earlier model of the plane.
3. The first aircraft of this type was actually purchased by the navy.
4. Used by both the army and navy.
5. A high scoring ace was trained on, among others, this aircraft.
6. He was in the navy.
7. More than 100 were produced; quite a number for the time.
8. Tandem seating.
9. Early experiments with firing a machine gun utilized this aircraft.
10. In earlier models of this aircraft, seating was a bit Spartan.
11. This model provided a nacelle, where the instructor and student still sat side by side.
12. Earlier models had wings of equal span; though later models had extensions to the top wing.
13. Main landing gear had four wheels.
14. Twin rudders.
15. Four parallel beams.
16. Two from each wing.
17. Pusher engine.
18. The main landing gear also had skids.
19. No tailwheel; just a skid.
20. As was common practice at the time.
21. A small handful of this type survived WWI; and were among the first to be registered when civil aviation was again allowed.
22. The high scoring ace mentioned in (5) was a Canadian.
23. He was RNAS.
24. His name was Collishaw.
25. And he was the famed leader of The Black Flight.
26. In earlier models, two seats were mounted on the front edge of the lower wing.
27. Only two countries used this trainer.
28. Those countries were The United Kingdom and Australia.
29. Engine was a Gnome et Rhome.
30. An 80 HP Gnome et Rhome. 31. The machine gun tested (9) was a Lewis type.
32. And the tests were conducted in 1913.
33. They were the first tests of that type by the British.
34. This aircraft was used extensively as a trainer by both the RFC and the RNAS.
35. It was also used by the Central Flying School at Point Cook, Victoria.
36. It was often referred to as the Box-kite; although that name more properly referred to an earlier model of this same aircraft.
What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1. This aircraft was primarily utilized as a trainer.
2. It was often referred to by a particular name; although that name properly belonged to an earlier model of the plane.
3. The first aircraft of this type was actually purchased by the navy.
4. Used by both the army and navy.
5. A high scoring ace was trained on, among others, this aircraft.
6. He was in the navy.
7. More than 100 were produced; quite a number for the time.
8. Tandem seating.
9. Early experiments with firing a machine gun utilized this aircraft.
10. In earlier models of this aircraft, seating was a bit Spartan.
11. This model provided a nacelle, where the instructor and student still sat side by side.
12. Earlier models had wings of equal span; though later models had extensions to the top wing.
13. Main landing gear had four wheels.
14. Twin rudders.
15. Four parallel beams.
16. Two from each wing.
17. Pusher engine.
18. The main landing gear also had skids.
19. No tailwheel; just a skid.
20. As was common practice at the time.
21. A small handful of this type survived WWI; and were among the first to be registered when civil aviation was again allowed.
22. The high scoring ace mentioned in (5) was a Canadian.
23. He was RNAS.
24. His name was Collishaw.
25. And he was the famed leader of The Black Flight.
26. In earlier models, two seats were mounted on the front edge of the lower wing.
27. Only two countries used this trainer.
28. Those countries were The United Kingdom and Australia.
29. Engine was a Gnome et Rhome.
30. An 80 HP Gnome et Rhome. 31. The machine gun tested (9) was a Lewis type.
32. And the tests were conducted in 1913.
33. They were the first tests of that type by the British.
34. This aircraft was used extensively as a trainer by both the RFC and the RNAS.
35. It was also used by the Central Flying School at Point Cook, Victoria.
36. It was often referred to as the Box-kite; although that name more properly referred to an earlier model of this same aircraft.
10-03-2017, 07:36 AM
You already shot down the Bristol "Box-kite" so that leaves me to believe you mean one of the other knock offs of Henry Farman's Farman III built in 1909. I believe that would be Short S.27 which the British Admiralty and the Naval branch of the Royal Flying Corps as a trainer. An improved version was used by C.R. Sampson in 1912 to take off from a moving ship. Thomas Sopwith used the Howard Wright 1910 version to make several of his early record breaking flights. The Farman III was one of the airplanes the the Wright Bros claimed infringed on their patents.
Last edited by FlyerInOKC; 10-03-2017 at 07:41 AM.
10-03-2017, 12:47 PM
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You already shot down the Bristol "Box-kite" so that leaves me to believe you mean one of the other knock offs of Henry Farman's Farman III built in 1909. I believe that would be Short S.27 which the British Admiralty and the Naval branch of the Royal Flying Corps as a trainer. An improved version was used by C.R. Sampson in 1912 to take off from a moving ship. Thomas Sopwith used the Howard Wright 1910 version to make several of his early record breaking flights. The Farman III was one of the airplanes the the Wright Bros claimed infringed on their patents.
What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1. This aircraft was primarily utilized as a trainer.
2. It was often referred to by a particular name; although that name properly belonged to an earlier model of the plane.
3. The first aircraft of this type was actually purchased by the navy.
4. Used by both the army and navy.
5. A high scoring ace was trained on, among others, this aircraft.
6. He was in the navy.
7. More than 100 were produced; quite a number for the time.
8. Tandem seating.
9. Early experiments with firing a machine gun utilized this aircraft.
10. In earlier models of this aircraft, seating was a bit Spartan.
11. This model provided a nacelle, where the instructor and student still sat side by side.
12. Earlier models had wings of equal span; though later models had extensions to the top wing.
13. Main landing gear had four wheels.
14. Twin rudders.
15. Four parallel beams.
16. Two from each wing.
17. Pusher engine.
18. The main landing gear also had skids.
19. No tailwheel; just a skid.
20. As was common practice at the time.
21. A small handful of this type survived WWI; and were among the first to be registered when civil aviation was again allowed.
22. The high scoring ace mentioned in (5) was a Canadian.
23. He was RNAS.
24. His name was Collishaw.
25. And he was the famed leader of The Black Flight.
26. In earlier models, two seats were mounted on the front edge of the lower wing.
27. Only two countries used this trainer.
28. Those countries were The United Kingdom and Australia.
29. Engine was a Gnome et Rhome.
30. An 80 HP Gnome et Rhome. 31. The machine gun tested (9) was a Lewis type.
32. And the tests were conducted in 1913.
33. They were the first tests of that type by the British.
34. This aircraft was used extensively as a trainer by both the RFC and the RNAS.
35. It was also used by the Central Flying School at Point Cook, Victoria.
36. It was often referred to as the Box-kite; although that name more properly referred to an earlier model of this same aircraft.
37. The first aircraft of its type was given a serial number by the RNAS.
10-03-2017, 02:32 PM
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Sir; nothing made by Short. But here's another clue, just to show you I'm a nice guy. Thanks; Ernie P.
What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1. This aircraft was primarily utilized as a trainer.
2. It was often referred to by a particular name; although that name properly belonged to an earlier model of the plane.
3. The first aircraft of this type was actually purchased by the navy.
4. Used by both the army and navy.
5. A high scoring ace was trained on, among others, this aircraft.
6. He was in the navy.
7. More than 100 were produced; quite a number for the time.
8. Tandem seating.
9. Early experiments with firing a machine gun utilized this aircraft.
10. In earlier models of this aircraft, seating was a bit Spartan.
11. This model provided a nacelle, where the instructor and student still sat side by side.
12. Earlier models had wings of equal span; though later models had extensions to the top wing.
13. Main landing gear had four wheels.
14. Twin rudders.
15. Four parallel beams.
16. Two from each wing.
17. Pusher engine.
18. The main landing gear also had skids.
19. No tailwheel; just a skid.
20. As was common practice at the time.
21. A small handful of this type survived WWI; and were among the first to be registered when civil aviation was again allowed.
22. The “high scoring ace” mentioned in (5) was a Canadian.
23. He was RNAS.
24. His name was Collishaw.
25. And he was the famed leader of “The Black Flight”.
26. In earlier models, two seats were mounted on the front edge of the lower wing.
27. Only two countries used this trainer.
28. Those countries were The United Kingdom and Australia.
29. Engine was a Gnome et Rhome.
30. An 80 HP Gnome et Rhome. 31. The machine gun tested (9) was a Lewis type.
32. And the tests were conducted in 1913.
33. They were the first tests of that type by the British.
34. This aircraft was used extensively as a trainer by both the RFC and the RNAS.
35. It was also used by the Central Flying School at Point Cook, Victoria.
36. It was often referred to as “the Box-kite”; although that name more properly referred to an earlier model of this same aircraft.
37. The first aircraft of its type was given a serial number by the RNAS.
38. As was common practice at the time, all further aircraft of this type were given that “type number”.
What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1. This aircraft was primarily utilized as a trainer.
2. It was often referred to by a particular name; although that name properly belonged to an earlier model of the plane.
3. The first aircraft of this type was actually purchased by the navy.
4. Used by both the army and navy.
5. A high scoring ace was trained on, among others, this aircraft.
6. He was in the navy.
7. More than 100 were produced; quite a number for the time.
8. Tandem seating.
9. Early experiments with firing a machine gun utilized this aircraft.
10. In earlier models of this aircraft, seating was a bit Spartan.
11. This model provided a nacelle, where the instructor and student still sat side by side.
12. Earlier models had wings of equal span; though later models had extensions to the top wing.
13. Main landing gear had four wheels.
14. Twin rudders.
15. Four parallel beams.
16. Two from each wing.
17. Pusher engine.
18. The main landing gear also had skids.
19. No tailwheel; just a skid.
20. As was common practice at the time.
21. A small handful of this type survived WWI; and were among the first to be registered when civil aviation was again allowed.
22. The “high scoring ace” mentioned in (5) was a Canadian.
23. He was RNAS.
24. His name was Collishaw.
25. And he was the famed leader of “The Black Flight”.
26. In earlier models, two seats were mounted on the front edge of the lower wing.
27. Only two countries used this trainer.
28. Those countries were The United Kingdom and Australia.
29. Engine was a Gnome et Rhome.
30. An 80 HP Gnome et Rhome. 31. The machine gun tested (9) was a Lewis type.
32. And the tests were conducted in 1913.
33. They were the first tests of that type by the British.
34. This aircraft was used extensively as a trainer by both the RFC and the RNAS.
35. It was also used by the Central Flying School at Point Cook, Victoria.
36. It was often referred to as “the Box-kite”; although that name more properly referred to an earlier model of this same aircraft.
37. The first aircraft of its type was given a serial number by the RNAS.
38. As was common practice at the time, all further aircraft of this type were given that “type number”.
10-03-2017, 03:24 PM
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What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1. This aircraft was primarily utilized as a trainer.
2. It was often referred to by a particular name; although that name properly belonged to an earlier model of the plane.
3. The first aircraft of this type was actually purchased by the navy.
4. Used by both the army and navy.
5. A high scoring ace was trained on, among others, this aircraft.
6. He was in the navy.
7. More than 100 were produced; quite a number for the time.
8. Tandem seating.
9. Early experiments with firing a machine gun utilized this aircraft.
10. In earlier models of this aircraft, seating was a bit Spartan.
11. This model provided a nacelle, where the instructor and student still sat side by side.
12. Earlier models had wings of equal span; though later models had extensions to the top wing.
13. Main landing gear had four wheels.
14. Twin rudders.
15. Four parallel beams.
16. Two from each wing.
17. Pusher engine.
18. The main landing gear also had skids.
19. No tailwheel; just a skid.
20. As was common practice at the time.
21. A small handful of this type survived WWI; and were among the first to be registered when civil aviation was again allowed.
22. The high scoring ace mentioned in (5) was a Canadian.
23. He was RNAS.
24. His name was Collishaw.
25. And he was the famed leader of The Black Flight.
26. In earlier models, two seats were mounted on the front edge of the lower wing.
27. Only two countries used this trainer.
28. Those countries were The United Kingdom and Australia.
29. Engine was a Gnome et Rhome.
30. An 80 HP Gnome et Rhome. 31. The machine gun tested (9) was a Lewis type.
32. And the tests were conducted in 1913.
33. They were the first tests of that type by the British.
34. This aircraft was used extensively as a trainer by both the RFC and the RNAS.
35. It was also used by the Central Flying School at Point Cook, Victoria.
36. It was often referred to as the Box-kite; although that name more properly referred to an earlier model of this same aircraft.
37. The first aircraft of its type was given a serial number by the RNAS.
38. As was common practice at the time, all further aircraft of this type were given that type number.
39. That type number was 1600.
10-04-2017, 02:16 AM
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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.
What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1. This aircraft was primarily utilized as a trainer.
2. It was often referred to by a particular name; although that name properly belonged to an earlier model of the plane.
3. The first aircraft of this type was actually purchased by the navy.
4. Used by both the army and navy.
5. A high scoring ace was trained on, among others, this aircraft.
6. He was in the navy.
7. More than 100 were produced; quite a number for the time.
8. Tandem seating.
9. Early experiments with firing a machine gun utilized this aircraft.
10. In earlier models of this aircraft, seating was a bit Spartan.
11. This model provided a nacelle, where the instructor and student still sat side by side.
12. Earlier models had wings of equal span; though later models had extensions to the top wing.
13. Main landing gear had four wheels.
14. Twin rudders.
15. Four parallel beams.
16. Two from each wing.
17. Pusher engine.
18. The main landing gear also had skids.
19. No tailwheel; just a skid.
20. As was common practice at the time.
21. A small handful of this type survived WWI; and were among the first to be registered when civil aviation was again allowed.
22. The “high scoring ace” mentioned in (5) was a Canadian.
23. He was RNAS.
24. His name was Collishaw.
25. And he was the famed leader of “The Black Flight”.
26. In earlier models, two seats were mounted on the front edge of the lower wing.
27. Only two countries used this trainer.
28. Those countries were The United Kingdom and Australia.
29. Engine was a Gnome et Rhome.
30. An 80 HP Gnome et Rhome. 31. The machine gun tested (9) was a Lewis type.
32. And the tests were conducted in 1913.
33. They were the first tests of that type by the British.
34. This aircraft was used extensively as a trainer by both the RFC and the RNAS.
35. It was also used by the Central Flying School at Point Cook, Victoria.
36. It was often referred to as “the Box-kite”; although that name more properly referred to an earlier model of this same aircraft.
37. The first aircraft of its type was given a serial number by the RNAS.
38. As was common practice at the time, all further aircraft of this type were given that “type number”.
39. That type number was “1600”.
40. I have already googled several provided clues. And the subject aircraft comes up repeatedly.
What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1. This aircraft was primarily utilized as a trainer.
2. It was often referred to by a particular name; although that name properly belonged to an earlier model of the plane.
3. The first aircraft of this type was actually purchased by the navy.
4. Used by both the army and navy.
5. A high scoring ace was trained on, among others, this aircraft.
6. He was in the navy.
7. More than 100 were produced; quite a number for the time.
8. Tandem seating.
9. Early experiments with firing a machine gun utilized this aircraft.
10. In earlier models of this aircraft, seating was a bit Spartan.
11. This model provided a nacelle, where the instructor and student still sat side by side.
12. Earlier models had wings of equal span; though later models had extensions to the top wing.
13. Main landing gear had four wheels.
14. Twin rudders.
15. Four parallel beams.
16. Two from each wing.
17. Pusher engine.
18. The main landing gear also had skids.
19. No tailwheel; just a skid.
20. As was common practice at the time.
21. A small handful of this type survived WWI; and were among the first to be registered when civil aviation was again allowed.
22. The “high scoring ace” mentioned in (5) was a Canadian.
23. He was RNAS.
24. His name was Collishaw.
25. And he was the famed leader of “The Black Flight”.
26. In earlier models, two seats were mounted on the front edge of the lower wing.
27. Only two countries used this trainer.
28. Those countries were The United Kingdom and Australia.
29. Engine was a Gnome et Rhome.
30. An 80 HP Gnome et Rhome. 31. The machine gun tested (9) was a Lewis type.
32. And the tests were conducted in 1913.
33. They were the first tests of that type by the British.
34. This aircraft was used extensively as a trainer by both the RFC and the RNAS.
35. It was also used by the Central Flying School at Point Cook, Victoria.
36. It was often referred to as “the Box-kite”; although that name more properly referred to an earlier model of this same aircraft.
37. The first aircraft of its type was given a serial number by the RNAS.
38. As was common practice at the time, all further aircraft of this type were given that “type number”.
39. That type number was “1600”.
40. I have already googled several provided clues. And the subject aircraft comes up repeatedly.
10-04-2017, 05:06 AM
Nice try Elmshoot but I think it was the Grahame-White Type XV. Even if I am right I'll still let you take the next quiz, I'll bet you could come up with a real humdinger! Ernie should be along shortly and tell us what he has in mind.
10-04-2017, 05:18 AM
Just try and tell me the Vickers F.B.5 and the Grahame-Wright Type XV aren't kissing cousins! The Vickers looks like an improved design and possibly a little safer to fly.
10-04-2017, 11:53 AM
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What warbird do I describe?
Clues:
1. This aircraft was primarily utilized as a trainer.
2. It was often referred to by a particular name; although that name properly belonged to an earlier model of the plane.
3. The first aircraft of this type was actually purchased by the navy.
4. Used by both the army and navy.
5. A high scoring ace was trained on, among others, this aircraft.
6. He was in the navy.
7. More than 100 were produced; quite a number for the time.
8. Tandem seating.
9. Early experiments with firing a machine gun utilized this aircraft.
10. In earlier models of this aircraft, seating was a bit Spartan.
11. This model provided a nacelle, where the instructor and student still sat side by side.
12. Earlier models had wings of equal span; though later models had extensions to the top wing.
13. Main landing gear had four wheels.
14. Twin rudders.
15. Four parallel beams.
16. Two from each wing.
17. Pusher engine.
18. The main landing gear also had skids.
19. No tailwheel; just a skid.
20. As was common practice at the time.
21. A small handful of this type survived WWI; and were among the first to be registered when civil aviation was again allowed.
22. The high scoring ace mentioned in (5) was a Canadian.
23. He was RNAS.
24. His name was Collishaw.
25. And he was the famed leader of The Black Flight.
26. In earlier models, two seats were mounted on the front edge of the lower wing.
27. Only two countries used this trainer.
28. Those countries were The United Kingdom and Australia.
29. Engine was a Gnome et Rhome.
30. An 80 HP Gnome et Rhome. 31. The machine gun tested (9) was a Lewis type.
32. And the tests were conducted in 1913.
33. They were the first tests of that type by the British.
34. This aircraft was used extensively as a trainer by both the RFC and the RNAS.
35. It was also used by the Central Flying School at Point Cook, Victoria.
36. It was often referred to as the Box-kite; although that name more properly referred to an earlier model of this same aircraft.
37. The first aircraft of its type was given a serial number by the RNAS.
38. As was common practice at the time, all further aircraft of this type were given that type number.
39. That type number was 1600.
40. I have already googled several provided clues. And the subject aircraft comes up repeatedly.
41. raymond collishaw + rnas + trainer aircraft + type 1600
42. aircraft + Boxkite + rfc + rnas + type number + tandem + central flying school, point cook, Victoria
Answer: The Grahame White Type XV
The Grahame White Type XV was a military trainer biplane produced in the United Kingdom before and during World War I. It is often referred to as the Box-kite, although this name more properly describes the Grahame-White Type XII, an earlier aircraft made by the company, from which the Type XV was derived. It is also known as the Admiralty Type 1600, since the first aircraft of the type purchased for the Royal Naval Air Service was given that serial number, and contemporary practice was to assign type numbers based on the serial number of the first example in service.The aircraft itself was a pod-and-boom configuration biplane with three-bay unstaggered wings. In early models, two seats were fitted on the leading edge of the lower wing for the instructor and the trainee pilot; in later models, space was provided for them in tandem in an open-topped nacelle, with the engine mounted pusher-fashion behind them. The empennage was carried on four parallel beams extending two each from the top and bottom wings, and consisted of twin rudders and a horizontal stabiliser and elevator that were carried on the top two beams. Early production aircraft had wings of equal span, but later examples had long extensions fitted to increase the span of the upper wing. The landing gear comprised two separate, wing-mounted, 'two-wheel plus skid' assemblies and a tail-skid.The Type XV was extensively used as a trainer by both the RNAS and RFC, with 135 machines being purchased for this purpose. In November 1913, one RFC Type XV was employed in the first British trials of firing a machine gun (a Lewis gun) from an aircraft at targets on the ground. Despite the number of aircraft produced, little documentation on the type has survived.Three Type XVs survived the First World War to become civil aircraft, being some of the first aircraft to bear British aircraft registrations once civil flying was permitted in 1919. Operators
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- Australian Flying Corps
- Central Flying School, Point Cook, Victoria
Specifications[edit]General characteristics
- Crew: Two, pilot and instructor
- Powerplant: 1 Χ Gnome et Rhτne Gnome air-cooled rotary engine, 80 hp (60 kW)
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Sir; there was more than a little "monkey see and monkey do" in those days. But who copied whom? Thanks; Ernie P.
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Ernie, I will start looking but in the meantime if Elmshoot wants to take a crack he is welcome to post the next question. Let he take a turn if he is a mind to do so.
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