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Old 07-23-2018, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
It ddn't last long but you got some great guesses!
How about the P-40; Spitfire; Bf 109; etc., etc.,? I'm actually quite impressed because there were so many and it was named so quickly. Well done, all; Ernie P.
Old 07-23-2018, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ernie P.
How about the P-40; Spitfire; Bf 109; etc., etc.,? I'm actually quite impressed because there were so many and it was named so quickly. Well done, all; Ernie P.
Actually, I did call out the Spit and the 109, among others, a few posts back. I didn't call out the P-40 since it was basically phased out before the war ended due to other aircraft out-performing it. The Wildcat should have been phased out, probably by early 1944, only being kept in service due to the Hellcats and Corsairs being to big to operate off of the escort carriers

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Old 07-24-2018, 06:33 AM
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Okay guys, looking for an aircraft.
1) This plane was single engined
2) This plane was single seat
3) This aircraft was used by four countries
4) This aircraft flew operational missions for over 40 years
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:39 PM
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Okay, since no one has thrown out any guesses, time for a few more teasers.
Looking for an aircraft:
1) This plane was single engined
2) This plane was single seat
3) This aircraft was used by four countries
4) This aircraft flew operational missions for over 40 years
5) This plane's original armament was two cannon and external stores.
6) The armament was later changed to a single cannon, increasing both the ammunition load AND rounds fired per minute
7) This plane, while almost twice as fast as an earlier aircraft in a similar role, had only half the range
8) This plane was used in every role the earlier plane performed but one
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Old 07-25-2018, 05:39 AM
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Old 07-25-2018, 05:52 AM
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I see the crickets have arrived since this thread has gotten silent again. Guess that means I need to come up with more clues.
Looking for an aircraft:
1) This plane was single engined
2) This plane was single seat
3) This aircraft was used by four countries
4) This aircraft flew operational missions for over 40 years
5) This plane's original armament was two cannon and external stores.
6) The armament was later changed to a single cannon, increasing both the ammunition load AND rounds fired per minute
7) This plane, while almost twice as fast as an earlier aircraft in a similar role, had only half the range
8) This plane was used in every role the earlier plane performed but one
9) This plane took some of its design features from an already in service aircraft
10) This plane had eight "hard points" for munitions and drop tanks
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Old 07-25-2018, 05:54 AM
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Looks like Mr Elmshoot is up. He slid in with the correct airplane while I was adding two more clues.
I am curious, what gave it away?
Old 07-25-2018, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
Looks like Mr Elmshoot is up. He slid in with the correct airplane while I was adding two more clues.
I am curious, what gave it away?
I'm guessing clue (4) was a big tipoff. How many aircraft were around operationally for that long? Add in single engine and single seat and a picture starts to emerge. Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 07-25-2018, 06:15 PM
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Looks like Mr Elmshoot

I prefer Sparky but I got the elmshoot handle back in the AOL dial up days to much of a PITA to change and someone already has my handle.

Mostly a drive by spit ball.....
On the clues i checked the #3 to see how many countries flew the plane and then being familiar with the SLUF it seemed to fit.
I never checked the cannon thing it did have a pretty effective gun as I recall.
7 and 8 are a mystery
Lurkers you have 24 hours to post then I can post something.
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Old 07-26-2018, 08:27 AM
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Regarding #7 & 8, would its predecessor have been the Skyraider? Can’t really picture the SLUF doing cover for aircrew rescue.
Old 07-26-2018, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by CF105
Regarding #7 & 8, would its predecessor have been the Skyraider? Can’t really picture the SLUF doing cover for aircrew rescue.
According to Wikipedia the A-7 was the replacement for the A-4 Skyhawk and it ws a smaller version of the Vought F-8 Crusader.
Old 07-26-2018, 01:16 PM
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Actually, I didn't say "immediate" predecessor. I was thinking the Douglas SBD Dauntless. It bombed, scouted(the one thing the SLUF didn't do) and actually played the roll of fighter at Coral Sea. The USAF used the SLUF as a strike fighter while the Navy used it as a lightweight Bomber. As far as speed and range, the Dauntless had a range of over 1,000 and a top speed of around 250, the SLUF was around 550 and 650
Old 07-26-2018, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
Actually, I didn't say "immediate" predecessor. I was thinking the Douglas SBD Dauntless. It bombed, scouted(the one thing the SLUF didn't do) and actually played the roll of fighter at Coral Sea. The USAF used the SLUF as a strike fighter while the Navy used it as a lightweight Bomber. As far as speed and range, the Dauntless had a range of over 1,000 and a top speed of around 250, the SLUF was around 550 and 650
Scouting was a major part of what we did on the ship even to present day. We would be assigned a sector Think of a pie shape piece that we were responsible to investigate that section from the reference point which was usually the carrier and out to say 150 miles and we wouldnote all shipping or other interesing contacts in that sector so yes we are still doing scouting. SSSC was Surface Subsurface Surveillance control.
The plane it replaced was the A-4 so I guess it would be a real reach to lump the SBD as that plane the Spad is more plausible and that's what I thought.
Three minutes Ill have the next mystery plane posted.
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Old 07-26-2018, 05:38 PM
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I'm thinking of a obscure airplane:
1. Single engine
2. Single seat
3. Unarmed as it was test flown
4. It would qualify as a LSA by today's standards.

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Old 07-27-2018, 04:43 AM
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I'm thinking of a obscure airplane:
1. Single engine
2. Single seat
3. Unarmed as it was test flown
4. It would qualify as a LSA by today's standards.
5. Subsonic....duh
6. This airplane and another were in competition and neither one proved satisfactory for its intended use.
7. The Germans were slightly more successful using the concept in WW2
8. 3 and 5 cly radial engines were tested on the airplane


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Old 07-27-2018, 06:21 PM
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Not much going on...
1. Single engine
2. Single seat
3. Unarmed as it was test flown
4. It would qualify as a LSA by today's standards.
5. Subsonic....duh
6. This airplane and another were in competition and neither one proved satisfactory for its intended use.
7. The Germans were slightly more successful using the concept in WW2
8. 3 and 5 cly radial engines were tested on the airplane
9. The plane in question was all metal.
10. The plane in competition with it was more conventional fabric construction.
11. Only 6 were built as well as the competition airplane had 6 built.
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Old 07-29-2018, 08:44 PM
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1. Single engine
2. Single seat
3. Unarmed as it was test flown
4. It would qualify as a LSA by today's standards.
5. Subsonic....duh
6. This airplane and another were in competition and neither one proved satisfactory for its intended use.
7. The Germans were slightly more successful using the concept in WW2
8. 3 and 5 cly radial engines were tested on the airplane
9. The plane in question was all metal.
10. The plane in competition with it was more conventional fabric construction.
11. Only 6 were built as well as the competition airplane had 6 built.
12. 18' wing span
13. Folding/removable wings




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Old 07-30-2018, 04:53 AM
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Any Guesses?
Old 07-30-2018, 05:13 AM
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Good quiz! I haven't got a clue I can't think of what it might be and my research got me no where.

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Old 07-30-2018, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by elmshoot
1. Single engine
2. Single seat
3. Unarmed as it was test flown
4. It would qualify as a LSA by today's standards.
5. Subsonic....duh
6. This airplane and another were in competition and neither one proved satisfactory for its intended use.
7. The Germans were slightly more successful using the concept in WW2
8. 3 and 5 cly radial engines were tested on the airplane
9. The plane in question was all metal.
10. The plane in competition with it was more conventional fabric construction.
11. Only 6 were built as well as the competition airplane had 6 built.
12. 18' wing span
13. Folding/removable wings




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Sorry guys; it's been a bit hectic lately. Nothing too serious, just a lot of it. How about the Stout Skycar and its military derivatives? Thanks; Ernie P.

Answer: The XC-65 Light Transport (AKA XC-107 or Stout Skycar)

The Stout Skycar was a series of four one-off American-built light aircraft of the 1930s. William Bushnell Stout was a prolific designer of road vehicles and aircraft, including the Ford Trimotor series. He was founder of the Stout Metal Airplane Division of the Ford Motor Company and in 1931 designed the Skycar which was specified for easy handling and provided with automobile-style comfort.

Single examples of four variations on the basic design were produced between 1931 and 1944.
The Skycar I, sometimes referred to as the Model 11-W. It was flown as a personal aircraft by Stout for several years and was later donated to the Smithsonian Institution. It is on display in the National Air and Space Museum at Dulles Airport Virginia.

The Skycar II was evaluated by the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF) as the XC-65 light transport. It was destroyed in a hangar fire circa 1942. The Skycar III was tested by the USAAF as the XC-107.
Specifications (Skycar I)



Data from Aerofiles
General characteristics
· Crew: 1
· Capacity: 1 passenger
· Length: 24 ft 0 in ( m)
· Wingspan: 43 ft 0 in ( m)
· Useful lift: 480 lb ( kg)·
Powerplant: 1 × Michigan Rover R-267, 75 hp ( kW)
Performance
· Maximum speed: 95 mph ( km/h)
· Cruise speed: 80 mph ( km/h)
· Stall speed: 35 mph ( km/h)
· Range: 320 miles ( km)

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Old 07-30-2018, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Ernie P.
Sorry guys; it's been a bit hectic lately. Nothing too serious, just a lot of it. How about the Stout Skycar and its military derivatives? Thanks; Ernie P.

Answer: The XC-65 Light Transport (AKA XC-107 or Stout Skycar)

The Stout Skycar was a series of four one-off American-built light aircraft of the 1930s. William Bushnell Stout was a prolific designer of road vehicles and aircraft, including the Ford Trimotor series. He was founder of the Stout Metal Airplane Division of the Ford Motor Company and in 1931 designed the Skycar which was specified for easy handling and provided with automobile-style comfort.

Single examples of four variations on the basic design were produced between 1931 and 1944.
The Skycar I, sometimes referred to as the Model 11-W. It was flown as a personal aircraft by Stout for several years and was later donated to the Smithsonian Institution. It is on display in the National Air and Space Museum at Dulles Airport Virginia.

The Skycar II was evaluated by the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF) as the XC-65 light transport. It was destroyed in a hangar fire circa 1942. The Skycar III was tested by the USAAF as the XC-107.
Specifications (Skycar I)





Data from Aerofiles
General characteristics
· Crew: 1
· Capacity: 1 passenger
· Length: 24 ft 0 in ( m)
· Wingspan: 43 ft 0 in ( m)
· Useful lift: 480 lb ( kg)·
Powerplant: 1 × Michigan Rover R-267, 75 hp ( kW)
Performance
· Maximum speed: 95 mph ( km/h)
· Cruise speed: 80 mph ( km/h)
· Stall speed: 35 mph ( km/h)
· Range: 320 miles ( km)
Ernie I think you're wrong Elmshoot says his aircraft has a 18 foot wingspan your stout comes in at 24 feet.
Old 07-30-2018, 07:33 PM
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It's a swing and a miss! But thanks for playing I am not sure but it looks as if only three of us are playing.

1. Single engine
2. Single seat
3. Unarmed as it was test flown
4. It would qualify as a LSA by today's standards.
5. Subsonic....duh
6. This airplane and another were in competition and neither one proved satisfactory for its intended use.
7. The Germans were slightly more successful using the concept in WW2
8. 3 and 5 cly radial engines were tested on the airplane
9. The plane in question was all metal.
10. The plane in competition with it was more conventional fabric construction.
11. Only 6 were built as well as the competition airplane had 6 built.
12. 18' wing span
13. Folding/removable wings
14. The entire airplane could be stowed in a very limited area.
15. The first airplane to be used successfully in this role or more correctly tested in this role, the experiment didn't ever go past the test stage.
16. Based on a design of the US Bureau of Aeronautics
17. 1922-26
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I'm probably wrong but how about this:

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Old 07-30-2018, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
Ernie I think you're wrong Elmshoot says his aircraft has a 18 foot wingspan your stout comes in at 24 feet.
Yeah; for some reason that simply didn't register. As far as I can see, none of the "really small" airplanes seem to match up with all the clues. Thanks; Ernie P.
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I have to agree. What I've seen is that with just about every plane I've found:
1) the span didn't work
2) engine didn't work
3) plane had some sort of armament


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