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Old 08-28-2018, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CF105
My brain goes to unusual places sometimes... I’m thinking about the Wildcats from Enterprise that flew into Pearl Harbor the evening of the surprise attack. Certainly memorable!
So what would be so unusual about that? Here's an afternoon clue, plus a bonus clue for Sparky's incorrect guess. Thanks; Ernie P.

We all know German pilot Adolph Galland wrote a famous book “The First and the Last”. This question is about another pilot; one who can also claim to be The First and the Last.

What warbird aircrew member do I describe?

1. This pilot flew more than 100 combat missions.

2. His first combat mission was very nearly his last.

3. He was the only member of his flight to avoid being shot down on that memorable day.

4. Three pilots survived; and three died.

5. And in coming years he was haunted by the three that died; often talking about how they died.

6. He flew through the entire war.

7. From the very first day to the very last day.

8. Ironically enough, both battleships and aircraft carriers feature prominently in his wartime career.
Old 08-28-2018, 04:26 PM
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Evening clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


We all know German pilot Adolph Galland wrote a famous book “The First and the Last”. This question is about another pilot; one who can also claim to be The First and the Last.

What warbird aircrew member do I describe?

1. This pilot flew more than 100 combat missions.

2. His first combat mission was very nearly his last.

3. He was the only member of his flight to avoid being shot down on that memorable day.

4. Three pilots survived; and three died.

5. And in coming years he was haunted by the three that died; often talking about how they died.

6. He flew through the entire war.

7. From the very first day to the very last day.

8. Ironically enough, both battleships and aircraft carriers feature prominently in his wartime career.

9. On the first day and the last day of his war.
Old 08-28-2018, 04:37 PM
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Jimmy Thach of the "Thach weave"
Old 08-28-2018, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by elmshoot
Jimmy Thach of the "Thach weave"
Not Thach, Sparky; but here's a bonus clue to reward your participation. Thanks; Ernie P.


We all know German pilot Adolph Galland wrote a famous book “The First and the Last”. This question is about another pilot; one who can also claim to be The First and the Last.

What warbird aircrew member do I describe?

1. This pilot flew more than 100 combat missions.

2. His first combat mission was very nearly his last.

3. He was the only member of his flight to avoid being shot down on that memorable day.

4. Three pilots survived; and three died.

5. And in coming years he was haunted by the three that died; often talking about how they died.

6. He flew through the entire war.

7. From the very first day to the very last day.

8. Ironically enough, both battleships and aircraft carriers feature prominently in his wartime career.

9. On the first day and the last day of his war.

10. He was not an ace pilot.
Old 08-29-2018, 01:47 AM
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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


We all know German pilot Adolph Galland wrote a famous book “The First and the Last”. This question is about another pilot; one who can also claim to be The First and the Last.

What warbird aircrew member do I describe?

1. This pilot flew more than 100 combat missions.

2. His first combat mission was very nearly his last.

3. He was the only member of his flight to avoid being shot down on that memorable day.

4. Three pilots survived; and three died.

5. And in coming years he was haunted by the three that died; often talking about how they died.

6. He flew through the entire war.

7. From the very first day to the very last day.

8. Ironically enough, both battleships and aircraft carriers feature prominently in his wartime career.

9. On the first day and the last day of his war.

10. He was not an ace pilot.

11. Although he did fly fighters.
Old 08-29-2018, 09:58 AM
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Afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


We all know German pilot Adolph Galland wrote a famous book “The First and the Last”. This question is about another pilot; one who can also claim to be The First and the Last.

What warbird aircrew member do I describe?

1. This pilot flew more than 100 combat missions.

2. His first combat mission was very nearly his last.

3. He was the only member of his flight to avoid being shot down on that memorable day.

4. Three pilots survived; and three died.

5. And in coming years he was haunted by the three that died; often talking about how they died.

6. He flew through the entire war.

7. From the very first day to the very last day.

8. Ironically enough, both battleships and aircraft carriers feature prominently in his wartime career.

9. On the first day and the last day of his war.

10. He was not an ace pilot.

11. Although he did fly fighters.

12. For the entire war.
Old 08-29-2018, 02:28 PM
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Evening clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


We all know German pilot Adolph Galland wrote a famous book “The First and the Last”. This question is about another pilot; one who can also claim to be The First and the Last.

What warbird aircrew member do I describe?

1. This pilot flew more than 100 combat missions.

2. His first combat mission was very nearly his last.

3. He was the only member of his flight to avoid being shot down on that memorable day.

4. Three pilots survived; and three died.

5. And in coming years he was haunted by the three that died; often talking about how they died.

6. He flew through the entire war.

7. From the very first day to the very last day.

8. Ironically enough, both battleships and aircraft carriers feature prominently in his wartime career.

9. On the first day and the last day of his war.

10. He was not an ace pilot.

11. Although he did fly fighters.

12. For the entire war.

13. In fact, after a bit of study, I can’t find any indication he ever shot down an enemy plane.
Old 08-29-2018, 04:58 PM
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Eric Brown?
Old 08-29-2018, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CF105
Eric Brown?
No, CF105; not Eric Brown. After your last comment, I thought you had this one figured out; but I guess another bonus clue is in order. Thanks; Ernie P.


We all know German pilot Adolph Galland wrote a famous book “The First and the Last”. This question is about another pilot; one who can also claim to be The First and the Last.

What warbird aircrew member do I describe?

1. This pilot flew more than 100 combat missions.

2. His first combat mission was very nearly his last.

3. He was the only member of his flight to avoid being shot down on that memorable day.

4. Three pilots survived; and three died.

5. And in coming years he was haunted by the three that died; often talking about how they died.

6. He flew through the entire war.

7. From the very first day to the very last day.

8. Ironically enough, both battleships and aircraft carriers feature prominently in his wartime career.

9. On the first day and the last day of his war.

10. He was not an ace pilot.

11. Although he did fly fighters.

12. For the entire war.

13. In fact, after a bit of study, I can’t find any indication he ever shot down an enemy plane.

14. He is remembered simply because of the first and last days; and because he was there.
Old 08-30-2018, 02:38 AM
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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


We all know German pilot Adolph Galland wrote a famous book “The First and the Last”. This question is about another pilot; one who can also claim to be The First and the Last.

What warbird aircrew member do I describe?

1. This pilot flew more than 100 combat missions.

2. His first combat mission was very nearly his last.

3. He was the only member of his flight to avoid being shot down on that memorable day.

4. Three pilots survived; and three died.

5. And in coming years he was haunted by the three that died; often talking about how they died.

6. He flew through the entire war.

7. From the very first day to the very last day.

8. Ironically enough, both battleships and aircraft carriers feature prominently in his wartime career.

9. On the first day and the last day of his war.

10. He was not an ace pilot.

11. Although he did fly fighters.

12. For the entire war.

13. In fact, after a bit of study, I can’t find any indication he ever shot down an enemy plane.

14. He is remembered simply because of the first and last days; and because he was there.

15. He flew in more than one war.
Old 08-30-2018, 08:18 AM
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Okay, guess I need dig a bit deeper. I recall the Pearl incident but not the name of the pilot.
Old 08-30-2018, 10:13 AM
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Actually, four of six Wildcats that tried to land on Ford Island were shot down and the pilot's killed long after the attack was over. There were two more Enterprise plane shot at, during the attack. A pair of Dauntless dive bombers had flown ahead with orders to land at Pearl Harbor. They arrived during the attack with one plane landing on Ford Island with holes in it's wings. The second was shot down by a combination of Japanese fighters and friendly FLAK. I know the pilot was able to bail out before the plane crashed, don't know about the gunner.
One other bit of not well known trivia is that one of the Japanese fighter pilots intentionally crashed his plane at, IIRC, Bellows Field. The Japanese pilots were all told to do everything they could to return to the ships but, in the case of this pilot, flying an A6M-2, he told others in his squadron that if his plane was damaged, he would dive into any target he saw rather than try to nurse the plane back to the ship. As luck would have it, his plane was hit and, after signaling to another pilot what he was going to do, he rolled the plane onto it's back and dived into a building, destroying it between the ensuing explosion and avgas fire. I believe he was the first pilot to make what would later be referred to as a Kamikaze strike
Old 08-30-2018, 02:25 PM
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Evening clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


We all know German pilot Adolph Galland wrote a famous book “The First and the Last”. This question is about another pilot; one who can also claim to be The First and the Last.

What warbird aircrew member do I describe?

1. This pilot flew more than 100 combat missions.

2. His first combat mission was very nearly his last.

3. He was the only member of his flight to avoid being shot down on that memorable day.

4. Three pilots survived; and three died.

5. And in coming years he was haunted by the three that died; often talking about how they died.

6. He flew through the entire war.

7. From the very first day to the very last day.

8. Ironically enough, both battleships and aircraft carriers feature prominently in his wartime career.

9. On the first day and the last day of his war.

10. He was not an ace pilot.

11. Although he did fly fighters.

12. For the entire war.

13. In fact, after a bit of study, I can’t find any indication he ever shot down an enemy plane.

14. He is remembered simply because of the first and last days; and because he was there.

15. He flew in more than one war.

16. In fact, he fought in three different wars.
Old 08-30-2018, 03:54 PM
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My dad flew in WW ll, Korea and Vietnam.
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Old 08-30-2018, 07:57 PM
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No correct answers thus far; although both congratulations and thanks are owed to Sparky's father. So here's a bonus clue, and a hint, to keep things rolling. Hint: If you know where the war started, and that doesn't give you the answer; why not work it backwards? Where and when did that war end? And how might the same man be involved in both? Thanks; Ernie P.


We all know German pilot Adolph Galland wrote a famous book “The First and the Last”. This question is about another pilot; one who can also claim to be The First and the Last.

What warbird aircrew member do I describe?

1. This pilot flew more than 100 combat missions.

2. His first combat mission was very nearly his last.

3. He was the only member of his flight to avoid being shot down on that memorable day.

4. Three pilots survived; and three died.

5. And in coming years he was haunted by the three that died; often talking about how they died.

6. He flew through the entire war.

7. From the very first day to the very last day.

8. Ironically enough, both battleships and aircraft carriers feature prominently in his wartime career.

9. On the first day and the last day of his war.

10. He was not an ace pilot.

11. Although he did fly fighters.

12. For the entire war.

13. In fact, after a bit of study, I can’t find any indication he ever shot down an enemy plane.

14. He is remembered simply because of the first and last days; and because he was there.

15. He flew in more than one war.

16. In fact, he fought in three different wars.

17. He started his first war as a fighter pilot; and ended it the same way.
Old 08-31-2018, 07:50 AM
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Today's clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


We all know German pilot Adolph Galland wrote a famous book “The First and the Last”. This question is about another pilot; one who can also claim to be The First and the Last.

What warbird aircrew member do I describe?

1. This pilot flew more than 100 combat missions.

2. His first combat mission was very nearly his last.

3. He was the only member of his flight to avoid being shot down on that memorable day.

4. Three pilots survived; and three died.

5. And in coming years he was haunted by the three that died; often talking about how they died.

6. He flew through the entire war.

7. From the very first day to the very last day.

8. Ironically enough, both battleships and aircraft carriers feature prominently in his wartime career.

9. On the first day and the last day of his war.

10. He was not an ace pilot.

11. Although he did fly fighters.

12. For the entire war.

13. In fact, after a bit of study, I can’t find any indication he ever shot down an enemy plane.

14. He is remembered simply because of the first and last days; and because he was there.

15. He flew in more than one war.

16. In fact, he fought in three different wars.

17. He started his first war as a fighter pilot; and ended it the same way.

18. He finished his career as Commander of an aircraft carrier.
Old 08-31-2018, 12:03 PM
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Afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


We all know German pilot Adolph Galland wrote a famous book “The First and the Last”. This question is about another pilot; one who can also claim to be The First and the Last.

What warbird aircrew member do I describe?

1. This pilot flew more than 100 combat missions.

2. His first combat mission was very nearly his last.

3. He was the only member of his flight to avoid being shot down on that memorable day.

4. Three pilots survived; and three died.

5. And in coming years he was haunted by the three that died; often talking about how they died.

6. He flew through the entire war.

7. From the very first day to the very last day.

8. Ironically enough, both battleships and aircraft carriers feature prominently in his wartime career.

9. On the first day and the last day of his war.

10. He was not an ace pilot.

11. Although he did fly fighters.

12. For the entire war.

13. In fact, after a bit of study, I can’t find any indication he ever shot down an enemy plane.

14. He is remembered simply because of the first and last days; and because he was there.

15. He flew in more than one war.

16. In fact, he fought in three different wars.

17. He started his first war as a fighter pilot; and ended it the same way.

18. He finished his career as Commander of an aircraft carrier.

19. In between the two, he flew combat missions in another war.
Old 08-31-2018, 12:19 PM
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All;

Totally unrelated, but one of the reasons I've been busy is I've been playing with a new 1/4 scale toy. These shots were taken at a friend's home while we were setting it up. Last Tuesday, we put it into the air for the first time. I took off, landed and still have a useable plane. Thanks; Ernie P.

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Old 08-31-2018, 12:38 PM
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Nice one Ernie!
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
Nice one Ernie!
Thank you, Sir. And just because you're so nice, I'm going to award you a bonus clue. The next couple of clues should be enough to wrap this up for anyone who is old enough to have been there and done that. Thanks; Ernie P.

We all know German pilot Adolph Galland wrote a famous book “The First and the Last”. This question is about another pilot; one who can also claim to be The First and the Last.

What warbird aircrew member do I describe?

1. This pilot flew more than 100 combat missions.

2. His first combat mission was very nearly his last.

3. He was the only member of his flight to avoid being shot down on that memorable day.

4. Three pilots survived; and three died.

5. And in coming years he was haunted by the three that died; often talking about how they died.

6. He flew through the entire war.

7. From the very first day to the very last day.

8. Ironically enough, both battleships and aircraft carriers feature prominently in his wartime career.

9. On the first day and the last day of his war.

10. He was not an ace pilot.

11. Although he did fly fighters.

12. For the entire war.

13. In fact, after a bit of study, I can’t find any indication he ever shot down an enemy plane.

14. He is remembered simply because of the first and last days; and because he was there.

15. He flew in more than one war.

16. In fact, he fought in three different wars.

17. He started his first war as a fighter pilot; and ended it the same way.

18. He finished his career as Commander of an aircraft carrier.

19. In between the two, he flew combat missions in another war.

20. Yankee Station.
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Hat-In-The-Ring= Eddie Rickenbacker's squadron, the 94th Aero Squadron. Would I be correct in assuming that is a Nieuport 28, the plane he flew during the span in which he got his first 6 kills and his "ace" status? BTW, those first six were two Pfalz D.IIIs, two Albatros D.Vs and two Albatros C.Is

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Old 08-31-2018, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
Hat-In-The-Ring= Eddie Rickenbacker's squadron, the 94th Aero Squadron. Would I be correct in assuming that is a Nieuport 28, the plane he flew during the span in which he got his first 6 kills and his "ace" status? BTW, those first six were two Pfalz D.IIIs, two Albatros D.Vs and two Albatros C.Is
Yes, Sir; it is intended to be a replica of the Nieuport 28 Rickenbacker first flew with the Hat In The Ring Squadron. FWIW, as is well known, the Nieuport 28 gained a reputation for shredding the top wing fabric in a steep dive. What isn't generally known is that occurred exactly twice; and no planes were lost or pilots injured. And both incidents occurred in the same squadron; the Hat In The Ring Squadron. Maybe the Americans were a bit more exuberant in their maneuvering than others?

And for contributing to the forum, here's a bonus clue. This should close out my question, as either you or Sparky should nail it down now. Thanks; Ernie P.


We all know German pilot Adolph Galland wrote a famous book “The First and the Last”. This question is about another pilot; one who can also claim to be The First and the Last.

What warbird aircrew member do I describe?

1. This pilot flew more than 100 combat missions.

2. His first combat mission was very nearly his last.

3. He was the only member of his flight to avoid being shot down on that memorable day.

4. Three pilots survived; and three died.

5. And in coming years he was haunted by the three that died; often talking about how they died.

6. He flew through the entire war.

7. From the very first day to the very last day.

8. Ironically enough, both battleships and aircraft carriers feature prominently in his wartime career.

9. On the first day and the last day of his war.

10. He was not an ace pilot.

11. Although he did fly fighters.

12. For the entire war.

13. In fact, after a bit of study, I can’t find any indication he ever shot down an enemy plane.

14. He is remembered simply because of the first and last days; and because he was there.

15. He flew in more than one war.

16. In fact, he fought in three different wars.

17. He started his first war as a fighter pilot; and ended it the same way.

18. He finished his career as Commander of an aircraft carrier.

19. In between the two, he flew combat missions in another war.

20. Yankee Station.

21. Gulf of Tonkin.
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How about John P Weinel, who was the Captain of the USS Ticonderoga(CVA-14)
Maybe Fredrick A Bardshar, CO of the USS Constellation(CVA-64)
DAMN!!! Just discovered the second CO(Bardshar was the third) of the Connie was a WWII ace in the Pacific, Stanley "Swede" Vejtasa. He was made famous when he downed three A6Ms at Coral Sea flying a Dauntless, shooting down two and ramming a third, then later added a pair of D3As and FIVE B5Ns at Santa Cruz while flying a Wildcat. He also helped down a "Mavis" flying boat, along with three other Wildcats during the Battle of Guadalcanal before being sent back to the States where he became a flight instructor and test pilot. In the later role, he severely angered the brass at Vought, giving them a list of changes needed to make the Corsair a safer plane to fly for "rookie" fighter pilots

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All good info, Hydro Junkie; but none of your guesses (or mentions) is correct. Here's a morning clue to narrow your search (Although I really thought you would have nailed it at this point). Thanks; Ernie P.


We all know German pilot Adolph Galland wrote a famous book “The First and the Last”. This question is about another pilot; one who can also claim to be The First and the Last.

What warbird aircrew member do I describe?

1. This pilot flew more than 100 combat missions.

2. His first combat mission was very nearly his last.

3. He was the only member of his flight to avoid being shot down on that memorable day.

4. Three pilots survived; and three died.

5. And in coming years he was haunted by the three that died; often talking about how they died.

6. He flew through the entire war.

7. From the very first day to the very last day.

8. Ironically enough, both battleships and aircraft carriers feature prominently in his wartime career.

9. On the first day and the last day of his war.

10. He was not an ace pilot.

11. Although he did fly fighters.

12. For the entire war.

13. In fact, after a bit of study, I can’t find any indication he ever shot down an enemy plane.

14. He is remembered simply because of the first and last days; and because he was there.

15. He flew in more than one war.

16. In fact, he fought in three different wars.

17. He started his first war as a fighter pilot; and ended it the same way.

18. He finished his career as Commander of an aircraft carrier.

19. In between the two, he flew combat missions in another war.

20. Yankee Station.

21. Gulf of Tonkin.

22. He was born in Missouri.


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