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Old 12-19-2010, 09:08 AM
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Well all pluming in and working for the retracts

All cables in for the Elev, Rudder and tail wheel.
Fuel tank fitted and dry fitting the Radio gear, using a Power Save from Terry at SM Services

Just to sort out Cowl and motor once Radio in then the CofG

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Old 12-19-2010, 09:41 AM
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DB,

You have a servo raising and lowering the tail wheel - correct? Haven't gotten that far on mine; haven't gotten anywhere on mine except gluing the ailerons

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Old 12-19-2010, 09:49 AM
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I would really consider going to a solid rod for the elevator. Or change out the cable setup that came with the kit. The crimps are weak and will come loose. They are OK on the rudder but will fail over time on the elevator....

Ty
Old 12-19-2010, 11:18 AM
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Mr JD

No the tail is Air retract. If you need any info please just ask. If you have a look at my build thread on the YT site.

http://www.ytinternational.co.uk/for...php?f=17&t=340

TY, I have used this system on many of my large planes, I double loop the cableand also incert Cyno into brass crimp.

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Old 12-24-2010, 10:00 AM
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Did ARF PROS ever get their shipment of 50 cc Corsairs in?
Old 12-24-2010, 11:11 AM
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Yes, Sir... Shipment of everything came in Tuesday...

You better make your order right now, for he may already have sold all [email protected]

Tell him (Bob) Mr DJ sent you! No joke!

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Old 12-24-2010, 11:23 AM
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Mr DJ

No the tail is Air retract. If you need any info please just ask. If you have a look at my build thread on the YT site.

http://www.ytinternational.co.uk/for...php?f=17&t=340

DB
DB

I'm just now seeing this.

So your tail wheel is phnematic; I have the same as you but mine looks like it should be servo driven - I'll look again. And thank you for the assist. This bird is a straight forward build, shouldn't be hard for anyone, but one can always use assistance.

Here's some Christmas entertainment: Me with a Dead Stick takeoff of new PT Stearman http://vimeo.com/17494940

Merry Christmas!

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Old 12-24-2010, 05:21 PM
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I would really consider going to a solid rod for the elevator. Or change out the cable setup that came with the kit. The crimps are weak and will come loose. They are OK on the rudder but will fail over time on the elevator....

Ty
Ty,

Why would they cables fail on the elevators and not the larger rudder? I am using cables for both on my 126.8" Corsair. The rudder is a larger surface and has more force against it. All you need to know is how to properly crimp the cables.

Barry
Old 12-24-2010, 06:27 PM
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I would not use cables for any thing other than the tail steering.
Old 12-24-2010, 09:14 PM
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Plenty of full size birds use cables for nearly all control surfaces so why shouldn't/couldn't a model?
Old 12-25-2010, 05:31 AM
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I just stated my preference Bob, not looking for a fight. Cables can and do stretch, my carbon fiber pushrods however do not.
Old 12-25-2010, 05:33 AM
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I'm with Ty and Crashproof. I would not use cables on an elevator. In the 30 odd years I have been modeling I have probably seen about a half a dozen cables snap or otherwise come undone on rudder setups. I have never once seen a hard pushrod setup snap...which of course doesn't mean it can't happen. But, using pull/pull on an elevator would be a big red flag for me. Just my 2 cents.
Old 12-25-2010, 10:00 AM
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Hi gents,

I think that whatever is your preferred set up we have to respect.

If in some 30 years plus you have only seen a few fail I would say that that is a good %. I my self have seen push rods fail, nothing is 100% Fail proof as we cannot guaranty any part from the Servos to the control surface


Merry Xmas to all.

DB
Old 12-25-2010, 11:25 AM
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Kool Beans...

I don't care for cable but I have it on three of my birds: 101" Robin 400 w/DLE 111; 98" Gee Bee Y w/DA 85; and small glow pattern plane. I will use it on this EMS Corsair as well.

Christmas Maiden of my Do-335 Junior; EMS Do-335 Senior arrives Tuesday - look for thread in Twin Engine Planes: http://vimeo.com/18172152

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Old 12-25-2010, 02:11 PM
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Hey Mr JD,


Love to watch and listen to your vids and love your camara man. Bet days at your flying field is a ball.

All the best

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Old 12-25-2010, 02:40 PM
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DB, thank you, Sir...

Yeah man, we have a ball at my field and I do make some crazy funny videos - at least that's what "they" tell me. I've made a lot of flyin' buddies just by my videos; and if/when I see them in person, it's pretty kool - mostly turbine folks. I'll be makin' a new vid as soon as Santa get's back on track. You see, he's lookin' for me at my old address; I suspect it will be mid to late Jan 2011 before he finds me. At that time, I'll make a vid of the few goodies he's bringing.

All The Best to you as well...

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Old 12-26-2010, 03:42 AM
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Mr DJ,

Please accept my apologies cant say I was was drunk so have no excuse

So where abouts in the US are you?

Cheers

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Old 12-26-2010, 06:26 AM
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DB, my Man...

No big deal, but I bet you drink a lot

I'm in the DC area as it connects to Maryland - a crowded place - I miss overseas: Japan, Germany, Russia, Others.

We have about 1" of snow on the grasses, streets are clear, heading to the field at 15 degrees via wind chill.

You should be finished with your Corsair by now - correct? Everyone is waitin' to see her fly; bet she'll fly just like any other. I may put mine on hold come Tuesday when my Do-335 Senior arrives

Mr DJ
Old 12-26-2010, 09:17 AM
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Hi Mr JD,

Not anymore, did all that when I was in the Military.

So you lived overseas then? I served in NorthCarolina at the MC base while on Exercise for 5 months if I remember it was Camp Lejeune enjoyed it.

We got lots of snow and was -4.5 during today.

Not quite finished installed the HT leads and Ignition will be doing some more work tomorrow so will post some more pics, have you checked out the build thread I am doing at the YT web site?

All the best

DB
Old 12-26-2010, 10:24 AM
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Yeah, DB...

I'm retired Air Force; lived overseas for a long time......

Yeah, I checked your Web photos; awsome, must be the camara

If you were here, I'd have you help me build my few birds sitting around waiting for me I intend to build ALL in 2011 - yeah, yeah, that's the ticket: 2011

Mr DJ
Old 12-28-2010, 06:46 PM
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My Do 335 just arrived: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10223951/tm.htm

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Old 12-29-2010, 11:46 AM
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Well Nearly finished her, just some little jobs to do like CofG and odds. Some pics

Cheers

DB
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:01 PM
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Nice work!
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Check this out... new CJM retracts for the Corsair.
[link]http://www.vqwarbirds.com/product_info.php?products_id=271&osCsid=0f9a0a5434a36553ce3e0802930bbd4e[/link]
Old 12-29-2010, 02:46 PM
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DB
nice job........she looks ready for her first sortie..............interesting however you used a twin[X(] Which engnie is it, if I may ask?

I just receive mine from ARF PROS today......It looks great and I'm excited to get started. Going with a 4.2 Brison for the serious business up front.
Also, did you use the stock engine mount? I see where some of the guys on this forum are going in a differant direction with their own plywood setup. If ya don't mind, mention a few of the areas where you ran into some problems. I'll also go back and read the whole thread to get up to speed as to where everyone's at.


RCU IS MY FACEBOOK..................................CAPTAIN RON

NEVER MIND DB, I found you on the YT forum and you had already answered my questions..............good job on the doc of the build....


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