KyleB15

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I am a spad noobie and i am building the spad3d. I have know experience with landing an taking off with a plane. But i can fly my cub if someone getsit in the air. Also i can fly my wingwarrior whick is a flying wing. Ihave mastered that. Could i teach myself with the 3d. It seems pretty durable and looks stable. Also if anybody has crashed these tell me how it turned out. They are really cheap so it should be easy to fix. And i know some will tell me to get an instructor but i live to farm out into the country(46acres) and i dont have enough money to buy a sim(i'm 14). Thanks

Crash90

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The SPA3D is not a beginners plane. Stable is one thing they are not. JMHO.

bhole74

No they are not stable, but you can cartwheel, pile drive, take out fellow fliers airplanes and just get really good at crashing without having to worry about building a new one. When it comes time to build a new one, a couple hours and $6 will have you back crashing again in no time!

KyleB15

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So you say it is not a stable plane.Does the the wingwarrior(flying wing 4ft) have about the same hardness? And you say they are durable that is great. I am building one now all i need to do is get the engine from ebay. Can't i move the CG for or aft a bit to help is flight?

Tattoo

Throttle back, throttle back throttle back, throttle back. I think it can be done, if you throttle back and take it easy. If you hammer the throttle, you will be all over the sky with little chance of success and extreamly dangerous.

KyleB15

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Thanks for reply Tatoo and others. But will this plane fly at low speed or 1/4 throttle with a gms .47.

novabill

Go as slow as you can while keeping it in the sky. I am an optomist like yourself here's my story. Bought a slo poke had an instructor fly with mee first time out. Flew 2.5 more times myself (3 takeoffs, two landings and 1 collision with a tree). Bought a dazzler and had the instructor fly it. Went back out .5 flights (1 takeoff and 1faceplant on final). Built a tufflight and never flew it consistently. I then built a spa3d and it never flew right. I then built #2 and wow with dual rates and some expo, it was great. It does'nt right itself like a trainer but set up slightly nose heavy it was verry docile. I always felt comfortable flying it and eventually inched the CG back to 7" and it hovered itself. #2 is now retired and #3 is almost done and I'm sure I'll feel the same way about her. The moral of the story is I was'nt ever afraid to fly it and that's probably why I flew it so well.

If you are not afraid to fly/crash it, hell yeah build one. You are gonna crash no matter what you fly. You might as well crash a spad.

As you can see, my opinion on the SPA3D is totally bias. I will always have one and recommend them wholeheartedly.

William

KyleB15

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Thanks novabill i am about half way through building mine and it looks great. I definately not afraid to fly it or crash. It would be an easy fix. Would any body happen to have a used .46,.47 motor i need one.

Scott Crownover

Kyle,

You will love the way the Spad3d flies after you get the set-up right (ailerons reflexed upward 1/8 to 1/4 in. above the bottom of the rail, c.g. as per plans). Its easy to change engines on these planes, so you may want to consider a broader range of powerplants for you 1st flights. I've flown them with engines from .28 to .45. With some of the smaller engines you may not have quite enough oomph to hover, but they will harrier, flatspin, snaproll, tight loop etc, fantastic. Any ball bearing engine over .36 should hover the plane (any plain bearing/bushing .40 or so should also), but that need not be of much concern to you at this point. The airplane will not feel under powered to you no matter what engine you put on it. You'll need to throttle back regardless (except for vertical manuvers) to get the feel of what this plane is all about. Enjoy!


SC

KyleB15

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Hey guys i have just bought the the coroplast. 20$ for 4 2ft by3ft pieces. But i did not check something before i bought the flutes are running 2ft way. Can i still make the wing with it being like this. Or would someone have a spare wing or clhoroplast i could buy. Or maybe a trade. Please thanks

cde0214

I've got the spad 3D with an LA40, it flies fine with an 11x3 apc. It has kind of been the latest craze at our club, most are putting .46 bearing engines on them, but the .40 will let you putt around, harrier, and will pull out of a hover with the 11x3. It is a very durable plane to say the least, I nosed mine into the asphalt, broke a prop and an engine mount, no big deal. Not as much fun to fly as some of my other planes, but it dosen't hurt as much when you take a dirt nap. I would suggest putting a spinner on it, any cheap one will do, it will cut down on the broken props.

KyleB15

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Thanks all. Great advice. I just got the tail sectiopn done now i am waiting fo the wing


DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN EXTRA WING OR CHOROPLACT I CAN USE FOR THE WING.

novabill

Try the local quickie marts to see if they have any old signs. I just used my last bit of 4mm on spa3d #3 or I would help you out.

Good luck with the build and keep posting

William

KyleB15

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Thanks Nova i am glad to hear that you would have helped. So you think i can fing some at a gas station. I always see the signs hanging out. I'll try that.

novabill

If you look hard enough, you'll find it and probably for free.

Here is a pic of #2 which was just retired. If you like this, wait till you see #3

KyleB15

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Very nice. Did the sign come like that? Ya i'll go tommorow and look for the coro. I think i am going to buy an engine off of ebay it has
1h and 10min left it is a thunder tiger .46 pro very clean fo 60. I thing it souns like a good deal.

novabill

Actually, I bought mine in 4x8' sheets. It was virgin coro I cut the flames. I have heard nothing but good things about the TT pro motors. You can get one new for $85-89 if it's in good shape and was broken in properly, $60 might be a fair deal. I think you are going in the right direction with the .46 BB engines.

William

KyleB15

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Thanks man. I think i am going in the right direction. here is the engine http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=34055 I was going to buy it in 4x8 sheets but it was 18 dollars.

KyleB15

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Well i decided nto buy the engine it got to high. So i am buying a new one.

Tattoo

Places to get free coroplast:

1. Gas stations
2. Convience stores
3. Tobacco shops
4. Liquor stores
5. After election sign clean up
6. Fast food places

I've also heard a story from a friend who called his local Coca-Cola distributer and explained what he built from coroplast...and told them it would be great free advertising at the flying field...this stratagy netted him 40 free sheets of coro pre-printed with the Coca-Cola logo.

If you haven't seen this page yet, here are some great examples of airplanes made from free coro:
http://members.cox.net/deantuinstra/Signs/Signs.html

KyleB15

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ya i have seen that site. Pretty cool. My budding is going to build one to so i get to help him build that will be fun.

KyleB15

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Well guys wish me luck i am going to lacal gas stations to try and find coroplasts. Hope i find some!

novabill

kyle,

I think radical rc was where I saw the pro .46 for $84.99. Also, you can get a GMS .47 delivered to your door for $75 with a tower muffler at www.gmsengines.com. That will probably be your least expensive route.

William

KyleB15

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Ya i seen that sight but it doesnt look very trust worthy. I am going into town today to pick up the choro and try to find some free stuff.

novabill

The gms guy has an excellent reputation with the spadders in this forum. I am sure someone else will chime in and back that up.