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Old 10-27-2005 | 08:55 AM
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im gonna get into pylon racing. i went to parker to the large scale races and it was just what i was looking for. but before the big leap into that, i thought i would get my feet wet in the smaller warbird scale classes here around the ariz area at speedworld and tucson.
ive been researching a lot and gotten much help, but need some more, any help is greatly appreciated.
1). are there any other areas along with phoenix,tuscon that sponser a swra or rcpro type event, say in the so cal area or in az anywhere
2).i have a world models dago red i want to race and have a jett bse90 in it and see its too big for the wing span
- whats the best weight to power motor others are running in this bird
3). ive read all the dreaded memories of past racing days of glory gone bad, yet it seems like there is a revival on the horizon in this sport
-just here there are 3 interested seriously in racing(2 have planes and one is getting one)
- is it worth the investment or are numbers declining and im just not seeing it right

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for any and all help, i do appreciate your experience and insight to ny questions
marty
Old 10-27-2005 | 09:07 AM
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tryin to get these pics of my dago to upload here we go again
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Old 10-27-2005 | 11:09 AM
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Great looking Mustang Marty!

Good questions too!

I'm starting off in pylon racing as well for next years season. A little smaller than you though. The .25 sized AT-6 class. Ps. I'm in CA. There is a larger AT-6 class I've seen as well. You prolly saw them at Parker? That may be something you want to look into.

I get the same feeling that there is some new interest poking around ie., you, me & a few others etcetera.....

Would be a good time for the powers at be to start promoting.

Good luck with finding a direction to go.

It all sounds like fun, just how much money you can spend.

Old 10-27-2005 | 04:40 PM
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yea the at6's at parker started out for entry level but quickly developed into a $2000.00 + air frame and took most of the guys out unless you had big $ or sponsers. i will look for ca races as well as here in az.
you have fun and ,maybe we'll meet up
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Old 10-27-2005 | 07:59 PM
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I fancy warbirds much better than the Q500 pylon racers & the like. Not good or bad just my feelings. The only thing I could find in Southern California was Giant Scale Warbirds or the little .25 AT-6's. Oh yeah there is a .40 size AT-6 out here as well which is a little bigger, BUT, it seems that most of the warbird races are more of a local club event not an AMA thing. Do you find the same thing out in Arizona or do they race different warbirds in the same race against other clubs?

I'd really like to see something of a wingspan limitation or an engine size limitation so we can see Mustangs, Corsairs, Zero's & Spitfires all racing together. To me that would be the coolest thing. Then if we could have two, three, four, or five different clubs coming together to race these warbird classes, all taking turns at the different fields, that would be something I think would draw a lot of people.

Fun!

What do ya think?

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Old 10-27-2005 | 08:39 PM
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im not sure about the other warbirds and club races here in az, i live 2 hrs from anything so i dont get to see much in way of clubs and i just started getting in to pylon type thrills.
i think they should have a corsair,mustang,warhawks,me109,spits,zeros,190s etc..,in an all out shootout for trophies.
limit sizes of engines as well as brands.
ex: all 40 size birds with 2 stroke OS50's in em or if you desire 4 strokes then limit them to saito82 only.
no variances all stock no tuned pipes,pumps, all same fuel and props.
keep it cheap enough yet allow enough power to make it exciting.
add a unlimited class, same size birds any size or style motor you can afford. no static judging for points but they must be a replica of an actual warbird.

marty
Old 10-28-2005 | 01:22 PM
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We have two Warbird races here in Phoenix every year. They are both one day. Register in the morning and start racing. Three speed classes Bronze, Silver and Gold. No scale points of any kind but your aircraft must look like a WWII piston driven plane or Reno Unlimited class racer. Full rules are posted on www rcpro org. Club racing information is at www speedworldrcf com

They race a very similar set of rules in Tucson AZ, maybe twice a year. They call it SWRA Lite which means one day race and no scale judging. However, you do get a point bonus for providing color and marking documentation. Check at www swraracing com

They race a lot at Sacramento CA. I haven’t been there for a few years so I am not familiar with the current rules. We used to take a gang there. They changed the rules after every time we went there so we have cooled about going there. I don’t know their website address.

The biggest difference between the above racing and Q-500 is the course setup. The warbird racing is two pylon with the pilots outside the course. Q-500 is 3 pylons with the pilots inside the course. Very different to the pilots and callers. Another big difference is how cuts are handled. Also, you will find that all the above Warbird races are more laid back than the Giant Scale or 3 pole AMA racing. It’s more about fun than winning.
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pj
i want to come check out the speedworld
i see you guys got a permanent pylon course
what are the fees there for daily flying
are they open weekly,weekends,time limits???
i like the 2 pole vs 3 pole for sure, and i like the scale lookin birds that actually resemble an airplane, just my opinion, and im sure everyone has one
marty
Old 11-01-2005 | 01:16 PM
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MFLOOD3800 - Speedworld has a $5 per day airport fee for non-members. Our slowest days are the weekends. If you show up on the weekend, you can be my guest and it will not cost you anything.

Our 3 pole course is permanent. Our 2 pole course has to take pylon 1 down after each race.

Make sure you check the calendar on the website before driving to SpeedWorld. We have a two day AMA class race this weekend Nov 5 – 6. If you want to race APRA, Q-500 or Q-40 this will be a medium size race.
Old 11-01-2005 | 05:47 PM
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pj
thanks for the info
i will definately check it out on the weekend sometime soon, thx for the guest offer, thats very much appreciated. i wanted to be up there for the ama races this weekend but its not gonna happen. i just got my sky harbor kit stiletto from a guy named richard out of yuma for the warbird reno class for next year.
again thx for the invite and the info
marty
Old 11-02-2005 | 12:10 AM
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where do i find 3 view pics and actual pics of the real reno stiletto race plane?
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