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Old 01-12-2003, 04:59 PM
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Alright Guy's

Anybody know of a kit for this plane? thank's in advance.
Old 01-18-2003, 03:16 AM
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Yes,Yes! i want one too!-----i think we will have to create it our selves. there was a guy somewhere back east that built one.its' the only model i have ever seen. had it at the joe nall fly in. i think his name was john nicolci. he has had it for like 25 years.i am in the process of designing plans myself 118'' span for 2-120's.
Old 01-19-2003, 01:15 AM
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you will have to let know what you come up with,I think this is a very sharp looking plane. I really like the split tale and the gull style wings. I want to do a twin and I thought if I could find a kit or even plans this one would be the ticket Personally I think it's alot sharper looking plane than the PBY's good luck on your plans and keep me informed.
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Sorry man. I looked all over the net and all I found was 100's of those stupid solid wood desk models. Found just a few plastic kits. This plane must not be very popular at all. So if you make one you don't have to worry about showing up at a flat fly and seeing 10 others there.

As for me the PBY is uglier so I like it better. Too bad every one else dose also. So I guess when I take my future one to a big float fly I'll just line it up with the rest of them.

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Old 01-19-2003, 05:56 PM
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Look at it this way at least you will have one to line up with the others,as for me I will just have to dream and hope for the best.Happy flying.
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OK lets get to work on this. I say we make one in 1/12 scale. This will give us a plane with a wingspan of 118" and lenth of 80"
I'm thinking two OS 108's for power. G&P Cat retracs for gear.


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I'm just playing right now to see where the main formers should go.

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Gee these lines get sloppy when I enlarge this vector up to 80". Oh well I guess I can make a full size print of it and then clean it up with some drafting tools. Right now this is just for fun to get used to this new program. I really need to have some real three views and a plastic model to be able to plot this thing out right. But at least we can see what where dealing with on the full size model.


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Jack pot!


I found a set of OK 3 views on the net. Problem is they don't have sperate images of the fuselage and nacelles so I have to guess at what the fuselage looks like behind the nacelle. That's where a nice 1/48 or 1/72 model comes in.

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looksa gooda..... The Mariner didn't have landing gear tho...so that would simplify things a bit......
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Old 01-25-2003, 04:03 AM
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okay, smarty pants ..ya got me.......

but SOME Mariners did not have landing gear....


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Years ago Model Airplane News published a 4 page 3 view on the Mariner by either Wylem or Nye. I can't find mine at the moment but check with MAN and see if you can get a copy. It was super detailed as I remember.
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$150 for a plastic model! Who are they kidding?

Old 01-26-2003, 06:20 PM
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looks good so far Keep playing with it , sounds like you have a good program to figure it out with.
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I wanna keep this one alive. Here is a copy of the 3 views from MAN (Jan, 1964) that a friend asked me to scan and post here....



There is more, if anyone is interested....
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This looks like a fantastic project!!!!!!!!!

If someone could supply some plans I could make a mold for the fuse. Just a thought.

Kevin.
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VISE101, I have a set of plans in 1/12 scale. I think it is 118" wingspan. If youare serious about making a mold I could look into having some copies made. This would be a bit expensive as there are several sheets of plans.
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Old 02-06-2003, 01:09 PM
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I would be interested in a set, let me know or were did you find them maybe they would still be available to order a set . I would really like to build this aircraft sound like it will have to be all scrath built though thanks, Rod
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Jon L: I would be very interested in this project. Looks like a great subject. Have never seen a model of one of these.

Am currently constructing molds for an Otter(99"), PBY(114"), C-130(100"), possibly 2 sizes of Seawind(77&100") with another friend in the local club. Plans are to kit these planes. Actually the otter is already kitted and 4 are flying. Am just modifying the mold.

Let me know what your thoughts are. PM me if you like.

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Kevin....

since you are not that far away...are you going to the symposium in Vernon by any chance??

Wayne
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Hi Wayne. Heard something about it but do not know when it is.
If you could give me the date I would try to make it.

Am going down to Spokane for the swap meet on the 1st of March though. We have a table there next to the Robart dealer where we will be trying to sell some Otters and floats for them.

Kevin.
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I have to reconsider my offer to provide PBM plans. After I posted, it dawned on me that these are probably copyrighted from the designer, a gentleman named Ed Zematis. I don't know his present location but will attempt to track him down and see if he still is in the plans business. Sorry about the "false start" but I will investigate further.
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Kevin, it is the same weekend.... March 1st
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I found a 1/72 kit for $60 that looks good. I can't believe the price for these little plastic kits. One review said it took 200 hours to build. That's got to suck to spend 200 hours building a plane that can't fly.


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