Super Tune Your Super Vee 27
04-04-2007, 06:59 PM
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RE: Super Tune Your Super Vee 27
Let's just say I'm glad my camera is broken. I don't want to have to post pics of the carnage concured on the last run. On the bright side, my blue spare SV, like yours, has the base coat of white drying on it as we speak. Gotta love the "scratch & dent" sales. Anyway, I'll be up again by next weekend with a pair of matching boats....SV and a Mean Machine cat along with a spare SV power train for my 24" P & I Racing Hydro that is currently in production. Life will be good again soon.
edit: I haven't heard any of you guys mention to WIPE the shaft down at the end of the day upon removal to dry it and remove any residual gunk from it. After I do that, I just lay it inside the hull with the hatch off during the week to dry out everything. Don't forget to pop the latches on the radio box to dry out any condensation that may form also. also use the 3 in 1, like the roos, but on the front and rear motor bearings and all the rudder pivot point.
edit: I haven't heard any of you guys mention to WIPE the shaft down at the end of the day upon removal to dry it and remove any residual gunk from it. After I do that, I just lay it inside the hull with the hatch off during the week to dry out everything. Don't forget to pop the latches on the radio box to dry out any condensation that may form also. also use the 3 in 1, like the roos, but on the front and rear motor bearings and all the rudder pivot point.
04-04-2007, 07:15 PM
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RE: Super Tune Your Super Vee 27
Ode to Mean Green and OC. What's next? Snow White! haha.
I don't think the past colors agree with you. Hopefully Deep Purple and White will.
Ode to MG and OC. Rest their hulls.
I don't think the past colors agree with you. Hopefully Deep Purple and White will.
Ode to MG and OC. Rest their hulls.
04-04-2007, 07:36 PM
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Do you have any closeup shots of the rescue rig? Is the pvc attached to the boat? I want to try that but need more info.
Thanks!
Ben
Thanks!
Ben
04-04-2007, 08:26 PM
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RE: Super Tune Your Super Vee 27
Funny this shaft stuff came up I have my motor out right now and the shaft is still in the boat (freshly greased). I was shocked by how hard it was to turn it. I don't think it unusual. After I thought about it there is alot of surface area on it, and based on what you guys are saying I'm certain I over greased it. It may be a good excercise to overgrease insert turn, remove wipe down and re-insert to gauge the increased resistance. Add variation like the 3in1 one method as desired. I might do this while the motor is out. I'll post if anything significant is discovered.
OC you have made me realize that everything about these boats is temporary. Blackjack's saying that the teflon in the tube should last a couple of seasons - How many boat have you gone through in that time?
OC you have made me realize that everything about these boats is temporary. Blackjack's saying that the teflon in the tube should last a couple of seasons - How many boat have you gone through in that time?
04-05-2007, 06:19 AM
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Yea man. Sorry I had to take the shot. I would have expected nothing less had the rolls been reversed. Don't make me go and make the "4Q2" stickers.
See my suggestion in post 2323 for an experiment regarding the resistance to turn the shaft absent the motor (shaft vs. stuffing tube) to determine what conditions produce lower rotational resistance. First I greased the heck out of it put it in and tried to turn it. Then I removed it and wiped it down re-inserted it and turned it again - repeat. Each time the flex shaft was removed it pulled more grease out of the tube. I'd say it was steady state after 3 or 4 cycles (it didn't feel any easier after that). Then I put a light coating of "Grim grease" on the flexible portion of the shaft, inserted it up to the solid part, smeared 3in1 on that and then pushed it the rest of the way in. This condition produced the lowest rotational resistance, and it was significant. Because of the way the brushless motors dont turn smooth, you'd never notice this w/o removing the motor. I'd be very surprised if this process doesn't buy an otherwise dialed in boat a MPH or more if the stuffing tube is over packed. This also drives home how much a damages stuffing tube would effect performance. I think the moral of the story is grease often and conservatively.
Haha! You funny guy!! I have never worn out a teflon sleeve. Thank goodness I have an overstock of "4Q" stickers, huh!
See my suggestion in post 2323 for an experiment regarding the resistance to turn the shaft absent the motor (shaft vs. stuffing tube) to determine what conditions produce lower rotational resistance. First I greased the heck out of it put it in and tried to turn it. Then I removed it and wiped it down re-inserted it and turned it again - repeat. Each time the flex shaft was removed it pulled more grease out of the tube. I'd say it was steady state after 3 or 4 cycles (it didn't feel any easier after that). Then I put a light coating of "Grim grease" on the flexible portion of the shaft, inserted it up to the solid part, smeared 3in1 on that and then pushed it the rest of the way in. This condition produced the lowest rotational resistance, and it was significant. Because of the way the brushless motors dont turn smooth, you'd never notice this w/o removing the motor. I'd be very surprised if this process doesn't buy an otherwise dialed in boat a MPH or more if the stuffing tube is over packed. This also drives home how much a damages stuffing tube would effect performance. I think the moral of the story is grease often and conservatively.
04-05-2007, 06:36 AM
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I launched my SV last Saturday evening after having tested my cat earlier that morning. When I took off, it was pulling ever so slightly to the right. I stopped and looked down at my Spektrum to adjust the steering trim a bit and noticed I was running on the cat settings. Without even thinking, I switched models on my Spektrum radio while the SV was "live" in the middle of the lake. It was shortly there after that the boat returned to shore.... Funny thing is that I hadn't asked it to. So much for Spektrum and fail safes. I don't blame the radio. It was totally my fault, but I did think, and have tested on many occasions that the model will shut down if communication is lost. I never tested what would happen if I switched models though. Oh well, OC has served me well and has taken a beating over the last couple of months heat racing in our club. The hull is repairable, but I have a new one that I am painting that will be alot less work right now to get on the water.
04-05-2007, 06:38 AM
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"Don't make me go and make the "4Q2" stickers."
That's a good one! You mine as well keep the presses running the way I go through SV hulls! I'm on my third now.
That's a good one! You mine as well keep the presses running the way I go through SV hulls! I'm on my third now.
04-05-2007, 06:51 AM
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Do you have any closeup shots of the rescue rig? Is the pvc attached to the boat? I want to try that but need more info.
Thanks!
Ben
Do you have any closeup shots of the rescue rig? Is the pvc attached to the boat? I want to try that but need more info.
Thanks!
Ben
04-05-2007, 07:39 AM
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ORIGINAL: Orange Crush
I launched my SV last Saturday evening after having tested my cat earlier that morning. When I took off, it was pulling ever so slightly to the right. I stopped and looked down at my Spektrum to adjust the steering trim a bit and noticed I was running on the cat settings. Without even thinking, I switched models on my Spektrum radio while the SV was "live" in the middle of the lake. It was shortly there after that the boat returned to shore.... Funny thing is that I hadn't asked it to. So much for Spektrum and fail safes. I don't blame the radio. It was totally my fault, but I did think, and have tested on many occasions that the model will shut down if communication is lost. I never tested what would happen if I switched models though. Oh well, OC has served me well and has taken a beating over the last couple of months heat racing in our club. The hull is repairable, but I have a new one that I am painting that will be alot less work right now to get on the water.
I launched my SV last Saturday evening after having tested my cat earlier that morning. When I took off, it was pulling ever so slightly to the right. I stopped and looked down at my Spektrum to adjust the steering trim a bit and noticed I was running on the cat settings. Without even thinking, I switched models on my Spektrum radio while the SV was "live" in the middle of the lake. It was shortly there after that the boat returned to shore.... Funny thing is that I hadn't asked it to. So much for Spektrum and fail safes. I don't blame the radio. It was totally my fault, but I did think, and have tested on many occasions that the model will shut down if communication is lost. I never tested what would happen if I switched models though. Oh well, OC has served me well and has taken a beating over the last couple of months heat racing in our club. The hull is repairable, but I have a new one that I am painting that will be alot less work right now to get on the water.
[8D] How cool is that?
04-05-2007, 07:48 AM
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OC said:
Yea man. Sorry I had to take the shot. I would have expected nothing less had the rolls been reversed. Don't make me go and make the "4Q2" stickers.
See my suggestion in post 2323 for an experiment regarding the resistance to turn the shaft absent the motor (shaft vs. stuffing tube) to determine what conditions produce lower rotational resistance. First I greased the heck out of it put it in and tried to turn it. Then I removed it and wiped it down re-inserted it and turned it again - repeat. Each time the flex shaft was removed it pulled more grease out of the tube. I'd say it was steady state after 3 or 4 cycles (it didn't feel any easier after that). Then I put a light coating of "Grim grease" on the flexible portion of the shaft, inserted it up to the solid part, smeared 3in1 on that and then pushed it the rest of the way in. This condition produced the lowest rotational resistance, and it was significant. Because of the way the brushless motors dont turn smooth, you'd never notice this w/o removing the motor. I'd be very surprised if this process doesn't buy an otherwise dialed in boat a MPH or more if the stuffing tube is over packed. This also drives home how much a damages stuffing tube would effect performance. I think the moral of the story is grease often and conservatively.
OC said:
Haha! You funny guy!! I have never worn out a teflon sleeve. Thank goodness I have an overstock of "4Q" stickers, huh!
See my suggestion in post 2323 for an experiment regarding the resistance to turn the shaft absent the motor (shaft vs. stuffing tube) to determine what conditions produce lower rotational resistance. First I greased the heck out of it put it in and tried to turn it. Then I removed it and wiped it down re-inserted it and turned it again - repeat. Each time the flex shaft was removed it pulled more grease out of the tube. I'd say it was steady state after 3 or 4 cycles (it didn't feel any easier after that). Then I put a light coating of "Grim grease" on the flexible portion of the shaft, inserted it up to the solid part, smeared 3in1 on that and then pushed it the rest of the way in. This condition produced the lowest rotational resistance, and it was significant. Because of the way the brushless motors dont turn smooth, you'd never notice this w/o removing the motor. I'd be very surprised if this process doesn't buy an otherwise dialed in boat a MPH or more if the stuffing tube is over packed. This also drives home how much a damages stuffing tube would effect performance. I think the moral of the story is grease often and conservatively.
04-05-2007, 09:26 AM
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Thanks for the pics of he rescue rig. I plan to try it. Of course it is not for me. I have a friend that keeps turning over.
04-05-2007, 03:57 PM
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No Stick,
Stock shaft. What's the difference?
No Stick,
Stock shaft. What's the difference?
I can't figure out how the stuffing box tube can jam up with grease. It has a pretty large ID?
04-05-2007, 04:01 PM
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Thats a clever configuration for a rescue boat. I used a tug more for visability reasons. When I dump it....never fails I'm way out in the middle of the pond or lake. The tugs high profile and the raised riggers help me line it up from a few hundred feet away. Have you tryed a long distance recovery?
04-06-2007, 11:29 AM
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Yes we have had several long distance recoveries, but my next mod is going to be two small different color flage, one for each fork in the front. This will help us find our target easier.
04-06-2007, 03:45 PM
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I have thought about the flags also. My rigs to big as it is....a couple flags will just make it more of a PIA to transport.
