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What would be a good adjustment of the angle and height, no make these boats perform better...?

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I got an apache and its slowww but i killed the stock motor , so i put a titan 12 turn in it because i saw it in the villain . its a little faster but sometimes the motor runs fast but the boat is going to slow for the amount of noise its making any reason why . I think its the prop its to small so i might get it changed but what do you think it is . I might go brushless what motor and speed control do you recoment and do i need to change anything else .
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SRT10, there is not set angle or height for these boats. Go to the pond/lake, atke some tools and play with the angle/ height. If its starts to cavitate then the prop is too high. If the nose is in the air then the angle is too low. Its trial and eror. But when you fing the right angle you will know it[>:]

Hendrick, it sounds like the boat is cavitating the way you describe that it makes more noise than speed. Try playing with the strudder angle as described above.

Good luck!!

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Thsnks for the advice i will try it but my Apache motor turns but the boat is not moving fast or bearly at full throttle and then you let go of the throttle and try it again then it may go full speed , it looks like the prop is turning in the air when i turn and when i go forward it moves but whith difficulty so i thought it may be weed in my prop but its not . but i will try your advice

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i have an het 600-32 brushless motor i'm puttin in mine,the shaft size is 5mm,does anyone know the size of the motor coupler i will need,it seems that the shaft on the stock motor is smaller than 5mm,and i do not know the diameter of the side of the coupler tha connects to the driveshaft.any help is apprecitated

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you won't want to run the stock hardware with brushless power.

You will need to buy either of these:
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...t-oc6str-130da
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=sol-hydro
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...?prod=sol-mono

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i ordered another rudder set and hardware set,the only thing stock i will be using is the driveshaft

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What hardware did you get?

The stock shaft won't work with anything that i know of. You will need either a flex cable system or a wire drive.

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How are you mounting the hardware? Are you splitting the hull??

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not realy sure how im gonna mount the harware yet,does anyone know the lenght of the flex cable i will neeed,and wut other drive hardware will i need besides the flex cable?

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You will need a strut, rudder, a bracket for each, a flex cable, teflon liner, sturring tube, motor coupler, and some 1/8" ply to put inside the transom to reinforce it, and some epoxy to glue everything together.

Go to the OSE (off shore electrics) forums and read about how to install everything. (there isn't going to be anything about the apache, but it's basically the same for all single drive cats.)

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another noob here to the forums, and first off i would like to say excellent info here and keep up the good work! now with the questions!(lol) on the apache has anyone had issues with sloppy u-joints causing excessive noise/vibrations?? i have had mine aprox 8 months and ran scores of cells through it and already working on trashing my second replacment u-joint (that seemed excessively sloppy right out the package) bummer! So now my thoughts are omit the darn thing altogether, which poses its own set of problems. with a 3mm drive and a 3mm propshaft i cannot seem to find anything in a flex cable that will fit into the stock stuffing tube, even checked w/horizion hobby on a flex shaft w/collet for miss llumar but the cable measures 4mm. no luck there! E-mailed steve @ ose about the .098 flex cable and he says too small in dia. for the power. does anyone know of metric size flex cables 4 sale? If not, would wire drive be for me? and what kind of power can they handle? i'm also not tooo worried about the bushing dia. in the strudder as i have reamers for .125 and could open her up a tad(thanx pa, mister tool and die man!) Also somewhere up in this post someone has been running 2200 3c lipo in their vessel as i also have tried a couple times and each time it has came back in to check temps (esc and batt normal motor hotter than usual) and smelled funny, no performance issues, smelled like hot brushes or could it be from oiling the motor bushings heating up when running higher voltage?? just curious doesn't smell on normal 7.4 voltage THANX PEEPS IN ADVANCE AND KEEP THINKIN OUTSIDE THE BOX!

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Just scored one off of Ebay for $114 shipped, new, but its missing the reciever. Got to love Hob-E-Mart! They have great stuff.

Going to throw a 27 turn modd motor in it and play with some props. I'm excited because because now I can have fun at the local park which has a nice long pond without getting dirty looks from people like when I rum my 40mph BJ26.

Going to add cooling to the esc as well athe brushes on the new motor. I might throw a purple, plastic, stock BJ26 prop in it and see what it does. Might even see if I can find the BJ26SS running gear to throw on it.

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I would use one of these:
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...rod=octsb-x632

And replace the drive shaft with a flex cable.

You will have much less friction in the driveline for more runtime, longer motor life, and a tad more speed.

Running this on 2s wouldn't be a bad idea.

If you are going to replace the hardware, get some real stuff, not another steerable outdrive.

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The SS does not have a steerable outdrive.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo...RB2824-450.jpg
http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo...RB2825-450.jpg
And here it is munted.
http://www.proboatmodels.com/ProdInf...2800T-GAL2.jpg

I wont be running Lipos. I'll be running my DTX 4200 NIMH sidex side packs. Not going for any records. Just cant leave any thing stock[:@]

Thanks for the link to the prop though. I'll give it a try.

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Oh, sorry. Thought you were talking about the electric.

Stuff looks good!

Cool price, too:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=PRB2825
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=PRB2824

As for the lipo, that's not really for speed records. Especially with that motor.

I was saying that the boat will like to run more out of the water (lipo's weigh less) and you would probably get more runtime. Seeing as this is a sport boat, that seems like a good idea.

I'm not sure how the SxS packs will do, ideally you would have 3 cells on the bottom of each sponson, almost touching the transom to move the CG back to where it needs to be, instead of the stock location.

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i got 1 of these boats at my holiday house in germany. after christmas im gonna buy an etti 125a esc and x-power marine brushless motor (5000kv). i kinda pulled the drive system out and attached it to an NQD high wind but for some reason when i turn and drive at the same time the little joint won't let me turn more than a few centimetres to either side
PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:(:(:(: (:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

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what hardware can i put on my apache and what metal prop can i put if my motor is a 12 turn. tell me exactly what i need to put on hardware.

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sweeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!! fixed that **** but the high wind didn't work cause the prop sits way 2 high

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Hey guys. I run my apache with a 14 turn double motor on a 12t modified esc. It absoloutly flies! I also run a 7.4v lipo and converted Motor and battery plugs to deans ultras. The Deans have made a massive chnge on my temps and i can get like a 4 min run without gettin 2 hot!!!

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:DHer's mine!
Flex cable routed through stock rudder that's fixed in place and then added a pro boat turn rudder put a extra section of plastic behind the back of the hull wall to make the rear stronger... One thing now i am wondering if i should cut off the fin as show in the photo?...Or will this fin make it more stable in the turns?

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here is mine guys she's a bit ugly but it works , nothing more than a brushless up grade drive train with stock drive line on 3s lipo


http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...d/100_0841.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVRKENW55To

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se5KQWrq7EY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5wMsGO9vW4

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setup?

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Sure 2800kv brushless 540 motor watercooled with 1/8 shaft. 60amp watercooled esc on a 3s 2200 25c lipo pushing a stock prop. Thats it! I get about 10min on and off the throttle, 6 mins full throttle balls out. Temps are 120degs battery, 80degs motor, 70degs esc full out racing.

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How did you manage to run it full out for 6 min? Looks like you are on the thottle for 1-2 second max in the vids. I think you could use a bigger lake.:)