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Old 11-26-2006 | 11:18 PM
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Congrats Gunny, Sharp looking Herk. I haven't even touched mine yet, its still setting in the box. I'm always thinking of selling it, I don't see me ever having the time to build it, but then I see everyone else finishing theirs and want to build mine. Then they come out with an ARF that's not bad priced. Decisions Decisions. Again congrats gunny on finishing your Herk and some successful maiden flights.
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Old 11-27-2006 | 10:52 PM
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Yeah. I just finished mine and now an ARF comes out. But nothing is better than the pride you get from building one from ground up. If any one is still building theirs and needs help, I'll check back periodically. I may still want to post how I did my engine installations along with the nacells. I did it totally differently and I was pretty easy to do. Thanks for the compements.
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Old 11-28-2006 | 10:58 PM
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THE PLANE IS AWESOME!! I would be interested in how you mounted the engines and nacelles - I'm currently building the plane and almost to that point.
Did you custom make the props?
Old 11-28-2006 | 11:06 PM
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I have the c-160 transall but a few more engine's only makes it that much more exciting to fly and you done a most beautiful job. building it, gunny
Old 11-28-2006 | 11:19 PM
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Thank you guys. That's what started it all. The c-160 Transall.
rcflyer, Yes I'll post engine install sequence, also yes the props are made by me and they are flying props.

happy landings,

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Old 11-28-2006 | 11:29 PM
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Take off pics [8D]
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Old 11-29-2006 | 02:52 AM
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Gunny that is sweet looks like it handles really smooth too,
Old 11-29-2006 | 02:58 AM
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gunny how much runway did you use to rotate and i bet that it moves right along with 4 os 32sx engines i believe that is what you said you had on it but whatever it must move right out and what does it weigh, you done a great job
Old 11-29-2006 | 08:53 AM
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Gunny Nice plane and the pic are awsome. Rich
Old 11-29-2006 | 09:13 AM
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Gunny,
Awesome C-130, one of my favorites! You've done an outstanding job! Love to see and hear a video. Nice 4 bladed prop, true scale, gotta love that!!
Old 11-29-2006 | 09:34 AM
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ORIGINAL: gunny11

Thank you guys. That's what started it all. The c-160 Transall.
rcflyer, Yes I'll post engine install sequence, also yes the props are made by me and they are flying props.

happy landings,

Gunny
Gunny,

Very nice C130!! I am also very interested in the Props. I plan to start my 134" Palmer C130 early next year and want to put scale props on the big guy. Can you give us some info on the props?
Old 11-29-2006 | 07:07 PM
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Gunny the bird looks great. Contrats to completion and successful flying. I made flights 37 and 38 last month on mine at Mobile Ala. Lost #4 engine twice. Sent the saito .30 back to horizon under warranty. Their response was the fit between the crank and front bearing was loose and it was drawing too much air leaning out in flight. They rebuilt the bottom end and returned. It is on the bench waiting for installation. This was the first flight on the Herk since I recovered it from our flooded house after Katrina. Finally finished the house,, the herk was in the attic and missed the water.


How did the 2+ degrees of incident work out.. Also noted you used 2 strokes larger tanks? I recommend you mix about 1" of rudder throw to full aileron. This really helps out in a engine out condition. I have made 5 engine out landings todate of 38. Most due to fuel tank leakage resulting in low fuel.

I also saw the ARF,, but just not as cool as our custom built birds. I kept the flaps simple using ca hinges for flaps.

Well Done Gunny. Jim

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Old 11-29-2006 | 07:11 PM
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I have movies if anyone is interested in a herk movie w/sound. I just don't know how to post them in the site so if someone would volunteer I can email the movies and we can make them available. Jim

PS>> with sound.
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Old 11-29-2006 | 09:06 PM
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Thanks for the compliment and all the pointers Jim. I set the tail incidence to -1 1/2 degrees and the result was about 5 clicks of up elev. req'd. for level flight, which actually turns out to be about just under 1/8" of up trim. I think -2 deg. total would solve this. But actually it may be the extra nose weight I put in the nose.
The engines are os .32 sx's with macs pipes and 6 oz fuel tanks.
I'll will add the ail to rudd mix, because I did notice that it does require rudder coordinated turns.

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Old 11-30-2006 | 05:56 AM
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Gunny,
I as well would be interested in your props.. How you make them, Or purchase some for mine. I have noticed the discussion as well the -2 degree on the tail. The full scale is engineered with negative lift. An upside down wing actually. Although the top of the stabilizer is parallel to the datum line. You can see this when the leading edge is off.

GREAT JOB!!
Old 11-30-2006 | 08:54 AM
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Gunny I saw you came out at about 22#'s. Mine is also 21.5+ or minus a squeek. I know everyone is looking at the Herk ARF but what I did notice is they offer retracts for the gears. I plan to take a look at the retracts and might retro them on mine. I built mine with a bolt in removable main gear system. I tried to keep it so I could convert later. Jim
Old 11-30-2006 | 12:21 PM
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Here is vid of Jimcork1 with his Herc on a flyby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZgECwEsG8w

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Old 11-30-2006 | 12:22 PM
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Take off vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B09DjDcMJPM

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Old 11-30-2006 | 12:27 PM
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3 engine landing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9HALGgU5Ks

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Old 11-30-2006 | 02:11 PM
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I am freeked, I need to get started om mine. Thanks everyone. Awsome task.
Old 12-01-2006 | 01:20 AM
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pic. 1. Fire wall mounting frames (my design)

pic. 2. Frames are epoxied into nacells.

pic. 3. Engine nacells are tacked glued to the building board on some reference lines.

pic's. 4 thru 8. The engines and wing are 0-0 degrees. In other words, no up/down or left/right thrusts, so this method I came up with works very well.

The wing is placed L.E. down into the 2 inner nacells, aligning the end wing panells with the end reference lines. (Basically centering the wings.)

An incidence meter is attached near to the center of the wing (the meter part "gauge" has been removed and is not needed at this time.) A large 90 deg. square is then pushed up to the incidence meter, then, if need be, the wing an be slightly rolled in the nacell pockets to bring the incidence meter parallel to the square. Then clamp it so it cant move. The 2 smaller 90 deg. squares are used to align the wing along the horizontal reference lines.

PIc. 9. Check also that both end wing pannels are the same distance from the work surface.

Pic. 10. Final check with level work surface, incidence meter and 90 deg. square.

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Old 12-01-2006 | 01:34 AM
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Old 12-01-2006 | 01:40 AM
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Old 12-01-2006 | 01:58 AM
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Really good ideas!
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more to come at a later time.

Thanks.


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