Hey, anybody out there flying the WH 35% Extra 300LX in the new covering scheme, it looks awesome! I am definitely thinking about adding one to my stable, would like some feed back from those already flying one.

Thanks

JMW

Hey

You will love the way the plane flies. Very easy to handle. Mine is powered by a BME 110. It has more than plenty of juice to pull it around. It will make gentle landings. I have a trailer so break down of the stab is not necessary for me but it is easy to do. The only thing I would do is buy the heavy duty wing tube from Tom and change the hardware from phillips screws to socket head screws. They are 4mm 7 pitch threads. Go to about 1 1/4 inch long ones. Before you assemble if you go with the BME, it is light and might require nose weight if you want it a little more stable. I am using Hitecs throughout and 1800 mah B&P Batteries for everything 6 volt flight pack and 4.8 on ignition.

Eddie

Hi Eddie, which Hitecs are you using on ailerons, elevator and rudder and how many? Also how is the covering job?

Thanks,

John

Oh yea one more thing, how much does yours weigh with the BME 110?

Thanks,

John

Can it be flown and 3D'd with a ZDZ 80 or that just too small?

This is a big airframe, with a weight in the thirty pound range. A DA-100 flies it nicely, but is not overpowered. I think the ZDZ 80 might do okay for sequence work, but a little disappointing in the 3d department. This is strictly my opinion, however.

Does anyone know the length of the plane from the front wheels to the tip of the rudder? I'm trying to figure out if I can fit this plane in my mini-van with the motor in between the front seats.

John

I am using 5645 on ailerons and elevators, 2-----5735 on the rudder. Mine wieghs 27.5 lbs with the 110. I have removed weight from when I started flying it. The CG is about 4 3/4 inches now. I agree with Nick that a ZDZ80 for sequence might work, but that is pushing it alot. This is a big plane, you would enjoy flying it with your favorite 100cc motor. Especially on breezy days when you want more power.

Eddie

John


The covering was good. Had some wrinkles around the top of the turtle deck but nothing a little time and elbow grease cant fix. The paint on the cowl matched great to plane too.

Eddie

One more thing..........

If you get one try gorilla glue when working on the hinges. I tried it for the first time on my second extra and it was easy to work with and very strong. I tried a sample on a old cooler and when I pulled it apart a huge chunk of foam came with it. The glue had expanded real nice throughout the hole and filled where I purposely made the hole bigger.


Eddie

I was thinking along the lines of a 3W 106 or DA 100 for power. Is that going to be enough engine for this bird? She sounds big .....and heavy, kinda like my ex........uhhh skip that last part. Anyway, I saw the video of Joe Hunt doing 3D with the 330LX and it looked like he had plent of power ro pull out of hover. Does anybody know what engine he was using?

jmw

On mine I used the 3W-100iB2 with tuned headers / canisters, swinging a 26 x 10 3W prop.
Power is very well suited for the weight, about 29 lbs.

The covering looked great out of the box.
The cowling color match is not as good as my other Wild Hare planes have been.

Using Hitec 5945 on ailerons (2 Ea.), elevators (1 Ea)
Hitec 5735 on rudder (pull-pull)
Hitec 425BB PRO for throttle and choke.

Soooo.... can someone please measure the distance from the main wheels to the tip of the rudder???

I need to know for sure that it will fit in my van before I buy it.

Joe was using a DA-100 with stock mufflers. and a Mezjlik 28-10 or NX 27-10 prop.

Tom Fawcett

I am glad to see this plane getting some attention. I really like the 28% offerings from Wild Hare, and they are undoubtedly extremely popular, but the 35% Extra is a wonderful-flying and gorgeous plane. I am glad to see it back in the limelight. Sounds like you're getting ready to downsize them though, Tom. What's up with that? Any new 35% planes in the works?

ok

The length from the front of the wheel to the tip of the rudder is 82 inches on my plane. I am using dubro tread lites that are 4.5 inches. From the front of the spinner (tru-turn ultimate style 4.5 inch) I am at 100.5 inches.

Eddie

John the 106 would be a great match for the plane. You will not feel the 27+ lbs in the air. But you dont want it over 30 either.

Not downsizing the big Extra, it is and will remain the flagship of our product line. By far the best flying and looking plane of any 35% ARF (IMHO) it's also the costliest to buy and complete of all our products. Its size requires a strong 100cc engine, and that means you're in for over 2 grand just for the plane and the engine. As price gets larger market gets smaller, it's an immutable law of economics.

What I AM doing is upsizing the Extra Special because a lot of people have asked for it. It will be 100cc class, but will still fly well with a ZDZ-80 or good 3w 75. The plane itself will be $200 less than the big 330LX, and I figure the completed cost with a ZDZ-80 only about $500 more than The 28% planes. This should allow people to jump up to the larger class, and fly IMAC competitively, for not much more than they are spending now.

I like the smaller planes, but many people feel they would be more competitive with a larger plane if they could afford it.

This was the strategy that brought out our Giles G202, except a lot of people, for whatever reason, don't like the Giles design and asked for another plane in that same size.


TF

Any word on the next shipment Tom?

Not yet, still expected in a couple weeks.

TF

Ten Four TOM on yoru Extra you know how I feel about the plane



Eddie Bernaldez

The ZDZ-80 wouldn't be enough power. The plane is large with a wide fuselage and huge cowl. The plane has more drag than some other designs and requires more power even if the weight is comparable. High drag makes the downlines slower.

Well... thanks for the help guys. I think the Extra is gonna be a little too tight in the van. I think I'm going to put a Extreme Flight 87" Yak together with a DA-50 and a KS Pipe. It should compliment my Extra Special nicely. After I get some competitions under my belt next year I'll start looking at the 35% size.

FYI we are working on a 97" Extra 300 Special specifically aimed at IMAC and scale aerobatics. Length will be about 86", 10" shorter than the big 35% Extra.

It will have a new airfoil that's specifically for aerobatic flying, giving snaps and spins that stop instantly, and a nice clean stall for spin entry.

The plane can use a 100cc twin but should fly great on a 75 or 80 single.

I've attached a couple photos. It is unlikely that the blue will be used in production, too hard to see.

Tom Fawcett
Wild Hare R/C

Just so everyone will know, I'm building the 35% Extra and by removing the horizontal stabs and putting the rudder between the front seats, the plane fits like socks on a rooster in my little GMC Jimmy. That ain't a big car, but the Extra fits in it nicely.

Joe

i know for a fact a 40 % carden extra 330l fits in a mini fan with the stabs removed tail between the front seets spinner still on so there is no probs with a WH extra 35% will fit also so fear not . now if i could just find more space so i can get a 35 % WH extra for my own