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Old 04-15-2005, 02:29 PM
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Well For you guys that dont want to spend $300.00 bucks for an engine and pitts .The ST2300 seems to be a great alternative at $159.00 if you break it in correctly it seems to run very well ,its lighter and has lots of power.It also fits totally under cowl stock muff and all.Ill get some pics up of the engine mounted inside cowl soon. It should be in the air saturday.
Old 04-15-2005, 02:54 PM
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ORIGINAL: CRASH10

It should be in the air saturday.
Again?

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Old 04-15-2005, 02:57 PM
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Ben:

If you go to the Wild Hare RC site you can download the construction manual for the 28% Edge 540 under the “download†section. With the exception of some minor differences (control horn sizes, two screws attaching horizontal stab, etc) the 28% assembles very much like the 1.20 size. You can learn a lot about the assembly of the 1.20 by reading the 28% manual.

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Hi Has anybody got a final all up weight for this plane with a OS 160? I,m looking for accurate info regarding wing loadings etc. So it will have to be taken with a digital scale not the bathroom type . thx Dave This looks like an updated and much improved Lanier Edge 1.20 to me does any body else think so to? thx again Dave
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Absolutely not!!!! I've flown a bunch of different Edges, including the small Lanier. The W/H 1.2 Edge has a LOT more wing area, a thicker airfoil, wider chord at the wing roots, a better constructed fuse, easier tank and radio installation, and blows the wings off the Lanier in any and all aspects, including having a much lighter all up weight. Ain't no comparison. None at all.

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you might be right about the weight!!! I had the lanier Edge and with os 1.60 and pitts I was at 12 1/2 lb,, and Just now I finished CRASH10 WH Edge 1.20, and with ST2300 and stock muffler it weighted at 11lb 4oz pretty good for it's size I think.

It'll be on the air tomorow for it's maiden and I'll shot some video for the amiden flight!!! I hope CRASH10 won't became crash11 after maiden!!!
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It'll be on the air tomorow for it's maiden and I'll shot some video
Finally!!!!! Now get that bottle of bourbon out of his hand so that he'll have a clear mind tomorrow!!!
I'll be watching for the video!!!! Good luck!
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Oops, had the bourbon a day early. Sorry
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Anybody thinking about a small gas engine for this plane? Maybe a roto 25 or a Evo 26?
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It'll be on the air tomorow for it's maiden and I'll shot some video
Finally!!!!! Now get that bottle of bourbon out of his hand so that he'll have a clear mind tomorrow!!!
I'll be watching for the video!!!! Good luck!

Jajaja!!! that's me with the bottle of Tequila,, he is on my left and whiteknuckleairlines on my right!!!

Well it got maiden today I couldn't stay too long at the fiel but I got some video of maiden flight it's kind of short but I'll be editing it in a bit so we can put it up later tonight.

I didn't maiden it but the way I saw it flying it's very much like my 28%,, it took right off and I can't believe how much power that st2300 has, unlimited verticale.

First landing was dead stick because CRASH pull the throttle trim too low and it shut it off!!!

then I left!!! Later they call me saying they couldnt keep flying it cause some covering commin off on the wings or something,, I guess crash will have more to say about it!!!

But it flew pretty good to me!!!![8D]
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ok here is CRASH10 WH Edge 1.20 maiden video it's not very good casue I couldnt stay for more than the first flight and I didnt even cut it that it's all!!!

http://whiteknuckleairlines.com/imag...edgemaiden.wmv
Old 04-17-2005, 01:14 AM
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

Not bad for a maiden .That st2300 sure isn't lacking for power.The the thing looked like it just jumped off the ground. Is that his antenna sticking out of the top of the fuse? I'll be looking forward for more videos as he gets a better feel of the critter. Did he go over the plane with a iron pefore flying it? I started doing this to my ARF's some time back. Seems to correct the problem of premature peeling of the covering that way.
Old 04-17-2005, 03:32 AM
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

Crash10 and Crew,
Nice job on the aircraft and the maiden kudos to all.

Silversurfer and RCtom,
My friend performed some test yanks on his YS 110FZ with different props yesterday. Here's the results with a 16 X 6 APC:

10,300 RPM 14.0#
9,800 RPM 12.2#
9,500 RPM 11.3#

Now with some real world facts in, do you guys feel better about the YS on the second generation model?? Thanks, Brian...
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I've never felt bad about the 1.10, but for extended vertical it may not be enough. The true test of any engine's ability to carry a plane will be while installed on the plane. Give it a try to see how it works out! The worst case is that you may have to remove it and add a different engine. The best case is that it proves to be adaquate for your needs and flying style.
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

Pat,
Yeah, I think I'm going to give it a go. Dave Shadel from YS told me the 16 X 6 was more of a fun fly prop and to try a 14 X 10 or 15 X 10 and keep the high end under 10K with that engine on the Edge. Did not say that it wouldn't work though We are going to find out in a couple of months or whenever the planes come in.

Crash10,
How about some posted pics and data on your equipment and setup??
Old 04-18-2005, 02:20 PM
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WEll you all have seen the maiden. There is another vid or 2 of it on W.N.
A . And lots of pics. The plane flew just like its big brother 28% and I think it looks just like it also. I do however have a problem with the covering on this plane. The wild hare stickers that came on it were done poorly, the hare on bottom went from the wing across the ailerons without being cut correctly[:@]. There were bubbles all underneath the yellow hare,and the whole covering on the left side came off in mid flight from the tip to the fuse.I hope that whild hare customer service will offer to send a new piece of covering for it so that it will look new again. Ill give this one 9.5 as far as how it looks and flys.
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Crash,
I just watched the second video that you did. It looks like you are getting more comfortable with the plane. Did you get a chance to hover it. Or try any harriers.
Shaun
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I hope that whild hare customer service will offer to send a new piece of covering for it so that it will look new again. Ill give this one 9.5 as far as how it looks and flys.
Just email me a photo.

TF
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Shaun This plane is so light and the 2300 has so much power it will scream straight up out of sight. Im still breaking engine in so I dont trust it enuf to hover yet but next weekend if its nice Ill get charrua to hover it close to the ground.My hover skills are not as fine tuned as charruas are yet!. Check out the pics and vids we have posted on whiteknuckleairlines [sm=thumbup.gif] Iv never had a plane this cool or big befor but I can tell you Sean that I cant think about anything else but flying it again[sm=bananahead.gif]
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

Any time frame yet on when the next shipment of the 1.20 edge will be here Tom?

Has anyone thought of a MVVS/EVO 1.6 on this plane?
Could someone who owns this engine give me some idea
what kind of thrust is available, and if it would be a good fit.
I'm thinking OS 1.60, but if a small gasser would keep the wing loading down enough to still 3d I would go that route even though I know it wouldn't pull out of a hover with the authority of the Nitro engines.
Thanks
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

No ETA yet.

TF
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

YEE HAWWWWWW. Got my OS 1.60FX today. May try to mount it later...
Old 04-19-2005, 06:16 PM
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

HEY! YOU GUYS! Lots of folks are asking about small gas engines in this bird but NOBODY is responding. I would love to know what TOM thinks on this matter.

WELL?

Yes, I asked about gassers i this plane on the previous page and got squat for a responce. Let's at least generate some discution on the matter.
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

Something small like a ROTO 35 would probably be good. Only problem is weight. A glow engine would probably have a better weight/thrust ratio. Plus, there are the balancing issues. No tail slots for a rudder servo in this one...
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

Here's what I think. I think the tiny gas engines are underpowered and overweight. I think that the minimum practical gas engine plane is 50cc and 1300 sq. inches, anything under that will be a disappointment.

Hundreds of guys tried it with the GP Patty, and most were unhappy. I believe the same thing will happen to the H9 Extra 260.

Our 1.20 Edge is designed for a 2 pound glow engine, and it tears up the sky that way for a total cost of around $800.

Our Extra/Edge planes are designed for 50cc gas, 3-4 pounds. They have been phenominally succesful because they were designed for a purpose and not adapted from an undersized airframe.

If people want to go experimenting, that's fine. But I don't want to be the one who advised them to do it.

It's expensive learning and buying all this stuff, I prefer that people would save their money and get something that really works.



TF


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