Hi, I have a 29% Ultimate and I also have a Fuji BT64A Engine. I am conserned that the eng is a tad on the heavy side for me. I am a newbie to RC aircraft and a REAL NEWBIE to 3D type airplanes. Does theis Aircraft fly alright with this eng or should I build it with a DA 50?

one last thing is what are the recomended Servo's?? I'm running JR stuff and will be upgrading to a 9303 Radio.

Thanks in advance.

Bill

Bill,

It has been a little while since I had my ultimate but I had nothing but good to say bout it. It is one of the best airframes for 3D flying hands down! Consistently I would land in harriers and it slowed down nicely for 3D.

I also flew mine with a 9303. Here are the engines I used on mine:

1. Brison 3.2 = Not enough power, just adequate IMHO
2. FPE 3.2 = Excellent choice and while not the lightest or a DA the plane didn't care. I thought it performed as well as the DA 50.
3. DA 50 = Same as the FPE 3.2 with a slight edge on it in terms of engine response.

For servos I used HS645's in the wings, HS5645's on the elevators, HS5245 throttle (later changed to 5925, and a larger 1/4 scale digital on the rudder. Batteries were all TBM 2 or 3 cell lion packs.

This is how that combination flew:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LKApCe7jS7o

I think you will enjoy your Ultimate and the attention it gets at the field. Its also a tough little plane as well; I was doing upright to inverted harriers and got a little low down wind and landed in a bush - the plane was fine!

I am flying mine on a DL-50 with a Vess 23A prop. Has plenty of power. The Fuji engine will make you really nose heavy and without very much room to move your stuff around you will have a fight to get your CG moved back.

I am running Hitec 5945MG's on the elevator and a JR 8611 on the rudder. The alireons are Hitec 5645MG's. I put those on the alireons because they are a little cheaper because they are a bit slower than the rest of the servos but the roll rate is so fast on this plane I figured I could get away with a bit slower servo.

Just make sure to set the CG correctly and you will love the plane. The factory CG is a little conservative for me and I am a bit father back. I like the way the plane lands better this way.

Servos are kinda up to you. Just make sure that they are could quality metal gear servos.

Thanks for the response guys, anyone want to buy a brand new Fuji 64? LOL

Tom sells a good engine and also consider some of the other not DA engines out there. Just make sure whichever engine you choose you can get support and or parts for if you need it.

When I say I'm new to this, I'm not even funny LOL I have heard nothing but good news from DA so that's where I was leaning. I've herd of 3W but do not know much about them.
I do travel to Tucson AZ alot (Where DA is) and figure I could get help there.. win win I figure.

Did you build your Ultimate? If so is there any tricks?

I had the biplane with an evolution 58 on the nose and I hated it because it made the aircraft way to nose heavy. A DA or DL is the ticket for sure. Also go for the best servos you can afford and stay away from the hitec 56 series. They are terrible for precision flying because the center really poorly so your trims are always changing. Keep the biplane light and you will really enjoy it.

Just to clarify I think Mike means he hated the Evolution 58, not the plane.

TF

Bill,
How much of a NEWBIE are you? If this is your second or third plane, it might be too much for you.
Chuck

I read it right Tom.. no worries

Well, I've been flying for about a year on and off. I just finished a hanger 9 Funtana with a satio 120 and flew it no prob. I do know this is a step up, so I'll be taking baby steps with this AC I have a friend at my field that can buddy box me or what not. so nooooo worries

You're good to go!

Ok about to bite the bullet on Servos thinking JR DS8711 Ultra Torque Servo's ?

Waaaaay too much servo!!!! You don't need that much anywhere on the plane. 5955's or 8611's are overkill except at the rudder, and even then they are on the high side.

As a guy that really, really loved JR products, and still flies JR radios and receivers, I would save some dough and run with Hitec servos. The 86 and 8711's have a bit of a problem with gear wear that you really don't need any of that this new to the game. Why be pulling servos and sending them back for repair every "X" number of flight? It wasn't that long ago I would never have said that but truth is truth.

The Hitecs will last a very long time and still have a tight gear train.

So what would be the down side to useing these servos? If they are overkill would the gears wear out like you say? I'm getting a pretty good deal on them.

It's not the load, but the service cycles. If the price is right then go ahead, but if you can buy new 5855's or equal for less then you're getting the short end.

Don't get me wrong, the 8711 can carry a heavy load, but do a some searches on JR 8611 nd 8711 gear wear, servo chatter, and hunting neutral. I was a JR guy for years and that's why I changed over to Hitec after several years of separation from them. I still have a lot of, and use, the 8611's but I know that anyone of them can start to chatter at any time. I have enough servos that I won't lose but a days flying time if I have to pull a few and send them in for repairs. Been there, done that already.

If you can deal with repair issues and not get hurt on flying time then go for the 8711's if the price is real right.

Yea the deal is very good, and I'm getting a few as spares, I also take more than one airplane to the field to fly. I searched Horizon's site for the 5855 and they do not come up are they an older servo? I really appreciate the info.

The 5955 is a Hitec product, which are the bane of Horizon products. You won't find Hitec products on a Horizon-Hanger 9 website. Sorry about the original misprint of 5855. Typo thing, it should have been 5955.

Just looked on Tower Hobbies and the 5955 is discontinued. []

They have been replaced by the 7955. Basicallly the same servo.

Bruce

I was on Horizons site the other day and i was very shocked to see a HS-5645MG for some reason there are a few of hitech's productson there site.
http://search.horizonhobby.com/index...d=11CB4DFD4190

Wonder never cease!! I guess Horizon is now carrying Hitec products. Makes me wonder why....

you and me both

OK what about the DS8611A Digital Ultra Torque MG Servos???? Because that's what showed up at the door. Maybe they are discontinuing the 8711???

That was the one that preceeded the 8711. The 8711 is their latest and greatest so I doubt it's going to get canned anytime soon. The difference between the 8611 and 8611a is a small change in the top of the servo case. No difference in torque or speed.