ESM ZERO BUILD
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ESM ZERO BUILD
ESM Zero. 88" Wing Span.
Finally got her today from TBM of FL.
Finally got her today from TBM of FL.
This will be my very first warbird build, so suggestions are very much welcome.
Ordered the factory electric retracts. TBM recommends DA-50 or DLE-50 for engine. Leaning on getting the DA-50.
Need suggestions on kind/brand of servos to use for the primary flight controls. Would like to install RELIABLE and BEST Quality servos.
Thanks in advance.
Mike
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The plane will almost certainly come out tail heavy. So a light weight engine is not needed or desirable. A heavier engine will not hurt. Also in your build keep all weight as far forward as possible including building mounts for you batteries and ignition module in the cowl as far forward as possible and keep everything in the tail as light as possible. You will probably still need to add nose weight but maybe not too much. Thats how it was on my 72" wingspan CMP Zero. However, it should be a great flying airplane.
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Hs645mg are more the enough for this size plane at half the price of those futabas. You also don't need a $650+ motor like the da50. Being a round cowl...you could fit in an eme60 easily and could also equip it with an electric starter unit. That would be usable nose weight.
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Wow! Lots of good tips gents. Thanks! Those are all new to me.
Flying weight would be around 18~20lbs, what minimum torque of the servos should I get?
Flying weight would be around 18~20lbs, what minimum torque of the servos should I get?
TIA
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Your zero is more then likely going to be closer to 22 pounds. ESMs listed flying weights don't include retracts. Also....troybuiltkodels has PowerHD metal gear servos with 270oz of torque for $14. I have a bunch of them in my 89" spitfire and they work great.
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ORIGINAL: RBean
The plane will almost certainly come out tail heavy. So a light weight engine is not needed or desirable. A heavier engine will not hurt. Also in your build keep all weight as far forward as possible including building mounts for you batteries and ignition module in the cowl as far forward as possible and keep everything in the tail as light as possible. You will probably still need to add nose weight but maybe not too much. Thats how it was on my 72'' wingspan CMP Zero. However, it should be a great flying airplane.
The plane will almost certainly come out tail heavy. So a light weight engine is not needed or desirable. A heavier engine will not hurt. Also in your build keep all weight as far forward as possible including building mounts for you batteries and ignition module in the cowl as far forward as possible and keep everything in the tail as light as possible. You will probably still need to add nose weight but maybe not too much. Thats how it was on my 72'' wingspan CMP Zero. However, it should be a great flying airplane.
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That is my #1 worry.... how much weight I will need up front to balance. Great advice in picking the heavy parts for the front (i.e. servos, batts, engine)
Gettign the DA-50 and pitts by the way. Though Im curious about the 80 cc. I do want to stick with scale flight characteristics.
Here some pix from last nights work on flaps.
Gettign the DA-50 and pitts by the way. Though Im curious about the 80 cc. I do want to stick with scale flight characteristics.
Here some pix from last nights work on flaps.
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Mike,
I am looking to purchase one of these.
Any pictures of the interior(Servo trays and/or formers). I am wondering if there is enough room for a smoke pump and tank.
I am preferring one servo for the flaps with bellcranks.
Mahalo
Mark
I am looking to purchase one of these.
Any pictures of the interior(Servo trays and/or formers). I am wondering if there is enough room for a smoke pump and tank.
I am preferring one servo for the flaps with bellcranks.
Mahalo
Mark
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ORIGINAL: Flyin Hwn
Mike,
I am looking to purchase one of these.
Any pictures of the interior(Servo trays and/or formers). I am wondering if there is enough room for a smoke pump and tank.
I am preferring one servo for the flaps with bellcranks.
Mahalo
Mark
Mike,
I am looking to purchase one of these.
Any pictures of the interior(Servo trays and/or formers). I am wondering if there is enough room for a smoke pump and tank.
I am preferring one servo for the flaps with bellcranks.
Mahalo
Mark
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Thanks Mike,
Is that all the formers? Pre-glued?
Are the wings glassed or covered? I like to do panel lines and weather
Cowl diameter? I have a G-62 looking for a home
How about a picture of the wheel wells
Sorry for all the questions but TBM site lacks necessary info
Mahalo
Mark
Is that all the formers? Pre-glued?
Are the wings glassed or covered? I like to do panel lines and weather
Cowl diameter? I have a G-62 looking for a home
How about a picture of the wheel wells
Sorry for all the questions but TBM site lacks necessary info
Mahalo
Mark
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ORIGINAL: carrera mike
TGIF! Able to work on the wings and installed the aileron and flaps, plus getting them set up for the servo and horn.
TGIF! Able to work on the wings and installed the aileron and flaps, plus getting them set up for the servo and horn.
You should glue your servo blocks grain wise perpendicular to the hatch plates and not parallel to prevent them from splitting from the plates.
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Is that all the formers? Pre-glued.
Yes
Are the wings glassed or covered?
Covered
Cowl diameter?
Will measure tomorrow
How about a picture of the wheel wells
I have not cut out the covering.
Sorry for all the questions but TBM site lacks necessary info
Mahalo
Mark
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ORIGINAL: fw190
You should glue your servo blocks grain wise perpendicular to the hatch plates and not parallel to prevent them from splitting from the plates.
ORIGINAL: carrera mike
TGIF! Able to work on the wings and installed the aileron and flaps, plus getting them set up for the servo and horn.
TGIF! Able to work on the wings and installed the aileron and flaps, plus getting them set up for the servo and horn.
You should glue your servo blocks grain wise perpendicular to the hatch plates and not parallel to prevent them from splitting from the plates.
also thinking of screwing and strip of popsicle stick on the backside to tie both of those blocks over the servo.
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ORIGINAL: dgiatr
is the wing ONE piece or two;is it 88 inches span or 80 inches;
thanks
is the wing ONE piece or two;is it 88 inches span or 80 inches;
thanks