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Old 03-29-2005, 03:59 PM
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

The 1.6FX is still perfect. I would under prop it when on the F90 though. 17 x 6 max and just let it over rev. I am sure you will not be at full throttle for very long.
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Ok I'm about to order a Os 160 for the WH edge. Do I need to get the perry pump if I use this motor on the 120edge?
This is the muffler that I'll order http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXUL60&P=M
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I have the Perry VP30 and it works very well. I have herd that the Cline or iron bay works even better. Many run the 1.6 without a pump.
Old 03-29-2005, 09:30 PM
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ORIGINAL: shaun russell

Ok I'm about to order a Os 160 for the WH edge. Do I need to get the perry pump if I use this motor on the 120edge?
This is the muffler that I'll order http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXUL60&P=M
Thx Again
It may be prudent to get the pump. There is an excellent thread regarding the CMP Katana, where the engine of choice was the OS 160 FX. People were finding that moving the tank back created a problem, in that the engine struggled drawing fuel that distance. Since the edge places the tank a fair distance from the firewall, similar problems may occur.

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Hello All,
I ran across Tom's ad just as I was going to order a Pacific Aero Edge. My friend has a WH Giles and I was so impressed with the quality of the plane that I changed my mind. My friend is at the Toledo show and is placing my order with Tom there. I did ask Tom about using the YS 110FZ on the Edge as that is what I have avaiable. Bearing in mind that I am really not wanting to 3D, just sport fly and start learn basic IMAC, Tom advised me that the 110 would fly the plane just fine. I would appreciate any input into prop and servo selections. I have Hitec HS-525 MG'S, 625MG'S and 635HB'S available. I probably will not purchase the WH hardware kit as I have CF rods and HD Dubro control horns in stock. I'll be using a HD ED switch and a No BS 1650MH 4.8V battery pack, but am open to suggestions. Any input would be welcomed including the correctly sized spinner.
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My buddy just got a Extra Special from wild hare a couple months ago. I was really impressed with the quality of the plane.If this one is anywhere close to being built the same then I'll be very happy. I'm just starting to step up to larger planes but would also like to continue to learn 3-d. Otherwise I would have stayed with the ys110 that I had on order. I just ordered the OS160 last night.So I'll have to put it in to the Funtana 90 until June when Tom said these will start arriving.
Does anyone know if he is offering a hardware pkg for it yet? cost?
Old 03-30-2005, 06:35 AM
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Many of us run YS 1.10's on the EF Yak's and use 16x6, 16x8, and 17x6's.. My YS spins all of them just fine..
Old 03-30-2005, 07:40 AM
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

On the first batch of Edges the tank is very close to the firewall, I don't know where EUCLID got his information. Your engine should run fine without a pump.

In the revised production planes there will be 2 tank mounts, the current one for non-pumped engines and one on the CG under the wing tube for engines with a pump.

TF
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Tom,
Thanks for that info, as I would like to mount the tank on the CG. My friend will see you at the Toledo show. He will be ordering my Edge in all white. Please get with me after your return via PM or e-mail if you need any further information. I'm not sure if Randy has all of the information that you may need. I don't mind the wait, our first Hurricane didn't come until August 13th last year[sm=surprised.gif]. BR, Brian E....
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There was more than enough room in the fuselage for you to place the tank either forward just behind the engine, or on or near the aircraft c/g. Remember that with a glow engine long fuel drawss may require a little help in the form of a pump and/or a regulator to maintaine engine reliability.

You engine choice should be determined by the type of flying you want to do. Outrageous 3D will always require more power than basic aerobatice, and IMAC will require less than 3D, but more than general fun areobatic flying. Just keep the nose weight within tolerable limits.
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Scott,
Thanks for the prop info, but what would you think would be the best choice on this airframe for general sport flying and IMAC basic?? C'mon guys, more help with the servo and hardware selections please.
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For the 110 - APC 16 x 6

Servos-Hitec 5625's
Old 03-30-2005, 07:18 PM
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GPSpacewalker,
Thanks for the info, but digitals are out of the question budget wise, not to mention more $$$ for a programmer. How about working with the best recommendations on what I have on hand unless there is no other alternative.
Old 03-30-2005, 07:25 PM
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

you dont need to program any servo

the programming feature on hitec digitals is a added feature they still work like normal servos

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Mike,
Thanks, but my point is being missed. I can't afford the digitals right now, but I have 16 new Hitec servos of the types mentioned in my previous post in stock. I have enough of each type to build this plane, so bearing this in mind what would be the best choice?? If I could sell the four new ARF'S and the new YS engine that I have on the shelf, then I would be going to the 50CC gasser instead of the 120.
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

wow i just reread your post and i cant believe i missed all that

any of those servos will be fine for sport flying IMO

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ORIGINAL: rctom

On the first batch of Edges the tank is very close to the firewall, I don't know where EUCLID got his information. Your engine should run fine without a pump.

In the revised production planes there will be 2 tank mounts, the current one for non-pumped engines and one on the CG under the wing tube for engines with a pump.

TF
Tom, by loooking at the pictures as posted. With the tank in the position as shown, (see silversurfers images) the OS could well struggle pulling fuel through. If that fuel tank position is the one for non pumped engines, then that may lead to problems. I'd certainly use large diameter tubing, and bore the clunk out to a larger diameter.
These observations are purely for the OS 160.
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ORIGINAL: olstoney

Hello All,
I ran across Tom's ad just as I was going to order a Pacific Aero Edge. My friend has a WH Giles and I was so impressed with the quality of the plane that I changed my mind. My friend is at the Toledo show and is placing my order with Tom there. I did ask Tom about using the YS 110FZ on the Edge as that is what I have avaiable. Bearing in mind that I am really not wanting to 3D, just sport fly and start learn basic IMAC, Tom advised me that the 110 would fly the plane just fine. I would appreciate any input into prop and servo selections. I have Hitec HS-525 MG'S, 625MG'S and 635HB'S available. I probably will not purchase the WH hardware kit as I have CF rods and HD Dubro control horns in stock. I'll be using a HD ED switch and a No BS 1650MH 4.8V battery pack, but am open to suggestions. Any input would be welcomed including the correctly sized spinner.
Put a 625 on the Rudder for sure

The 625's are good with full 3d Travels on elevator and ailerons 45°+

The 635HBs are good on the the elevators 40° max(2 servos) if using 1 pull pull servo use 625mg.

The 635HB's are good on the ailerons 20° max

The 525 is good for the throttle.

This is only my educated guess--my opinion



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?Can anyone tell me how the st 2300 is to be broken in? I was told that you lean it out on break in.Will this not damage the engine? And if not WHY?[:-]
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I give all my conventional ring 2 stroke motors a very healthy rich break in. (This included a ST2300) I don't let them lean out in the air until I have a couple of gallons thru them. I have had very good luck this way, although it is most likely overkill. ABC's are different. Again this is just my opinion.

So far I have never seen break in instructions for a conventional ring motor that did not include a rich break in.
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Yea thats my opinion also. One of my friends read a post on rc universe that a guy had posted saying that if you do a rich break in on st 2300 it will damage engine. I have never done a lean break in to an engine. Im going to try to find that post to investigate his claim.[8D]
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Hey, Guys we have a pretty cool web site with cool vids,and pics of us flying edge 28% and others, Ill also put up vids of the 1.20 edge check it out at www.whiteknuckleairlines.com .bout any airplane
Old 04-01-2005, 10:07 PM
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It's always been my practice to break a ringed engine in rich. Every one I tried to break in lean was damaged from the outset. Perhaps engines and metalurgy has changed some with two stroke motors, but until I see the proof of that I will continue to break them in rich.
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A ringed engine does not have the tight fit of an ABC or ABN type engine and thus it's not important that the top of the cylinder get hot, it's more important that it and the ring do not overheat. Therefore slightly rich is a safer approac.

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