Not sure about the spacer and stuff...only flown a friends with the rimfire... very pleased..

but you say you are new to RC... Please don't tell me that this is your first RC plane?!?!?[:@]

Nope it's not my first rc plane. I've flown lots of inexpensive park flyer type planes-- I still consider myself a novice though. Hope I can handle this thing okay!

Cool.... just set up low rates....

I have flown many foamies and 3D planes... Tensor was fun but WAaaaaaaay too fragile...
I love my HL Yak, but the Reflection was very fun... great, slow rolling harriers, easy to fly slow and in close, but it can be a handfull......


might have to pick up one for myself

I'm bulding a Flatana, and maybe the motor mount works the same way.

To use a rimfire motor or any other outrunner, I just have to glue that motor mount(that wood part that comes with the kit) in the front of the plane?

What kind of glue? Just the glue can secure the engine when you give power?[&:]

I fly from grass, and the gear on the Reflection seems a little flimsy. Will it hold up to grass landings. Right now I take it to the school track and use the hard surface, but my big empty grass field is more fun. The thing is a blast to fly.

I have only flown mine over grass. You may want to tie the lower part of the LG to the LE with some string for strength. Just come in for a harrier landing. It will end up on the nose many times, but I have yet to break anything landing on grass.

That's good to know, I'll try the grass tonight. I did add a short piece of carbon rod to each gear leg wrapped with some thread, then stretched a rubber band between the gear to keep them together.

What do you think about using an AXI 2212/20, CC Phoenix 25 esc and a TP 1320 3 cell lipo in this plane?
I'm new to electric flight so I need some advice from the experts.
Thanks.

Bom eu acho que TP 1320 para ele é muito pesada, tem que ser a 730 igual a minha que tem metade do peso.

Blz Regis, é o Abras!

Hi Guys,
Has anybody tried graphite or moly on the ail. hinges and linkages there are 22 hinge/plastics z bend connections for the ail. servo to overcome to achieve good centering I notice that mine is hard to get trimmed consistently and I hate to put a heavier servo in it. The planes already seem a bit heavy. What do you think?

Mike,

does the reflection fly good with the stock motor or would i need to buy the rimfire???? i would like to use the stock 370 motor and gearbox to save a bit on money but i was questioning if it preformed well.. i just want to know how it preforms 3d maneuvers with it and also how well it flies normally

JUst been putting mine together, don't know if any-ones done this but before I glued theleading edge carbon tubes in place, I slotted into them a short langth of alli' rod, bent at the right angle. A real tight fitbut makes for a real stong joint, no way will that break open. Also with the under carrage, I'm adding uprights of 2mm carbon, from the plastic whell hubs, vertically up to the upper wing. I'm then lashing them to the leading edge carbon with kevlar thread and also the lowest hub joint. This stops any upward movement and rearward deflection. Will probably be too strong and then break the wheels off.
Dave

I am having a ball with this plane. the foam and the hinge setup sucks though, they really should change these. Plane rips tho, gotta give it credit.

Has anyone ran the 400Xt on this plane. Too heavy?

I Started building my reflection last night . I have found no problem with the quality of this kit at all. the hinge setup is tricky but if you take your time, trial fit everting first you should have no problems. so far the hardest part for me has been inserting the z-bends into the clevis, if you don't take enough of the plastic out with the hobby knife they end up to tight, its almost impossible to remove the z-bend i broke 2 .. thankfully you are provided with some extras. as for build time it took 4 hrs to get all the assembly done i just have the push-rods as motor to go.. DAM WORK or i would be finished. Looking forward to finishing it this weekend !!!!

Haaaaaa ha! Nice flying, nice video - music and all Looks like it IS a fun plane to fly. I've always wanted to fly bi, but to lazy to build two wings. I think I'll have to give this plane a try too, after I finish the next two in line that is [:-]

What prop are you using?

Hey, thanks SuperKaos. The prop that seemed to work best was an APC 10x3.8.

rightflyer - I do not have personal expereince with it, but did read that someone was flying the 400xt on this plane and was getting like 20oz of thrust on 3-cells. I just picked up one of these motors myself when Hobby Lobby had them for $20 [X(] I am going to use it on an upcoming bipe project.

-Jeff

Hi, this is my first foamie, but I have been flying glow models for more than 15 years.
What do you think of JR 241 servos for this plane? I have used JR my whole life, but
this is my first time flying on this scale so any help is welcome.

Just about ready to buy this model and was wandering for indoor flying only would you suggest going with a 2 cell or 3 cell lipo set up.

If your not used to the place your going to be flying in use a two cell. If after a while your comfortable then move to the three cell!!!

Hey Jim what happend to your post? I just got this plane for X-Mas and want to see what you are doing to your prodution model.

Jim,

I too received this kit as a Christmas present and would greatly appreciate seeing a real build thread on it. I am not looking forward to building one just for practice and then having to shell out another $45 just to do it right the second time. Is this really a build thread or a simple chat log? Is GP updating the instructions as you refine the build?

Thanks,

Jim!!! WE NEED YOU!

Well I bit the bullet and began the build without this thread. So far I have made every newbie mistake possible but have managed to recover from them. I really think that the build instructions are about as bare as they could be without being useless to a new builder. (The photos are very helpful but there could be more) Basics such as glue application, temporary taping, and some jig construction hints should be included with every foam plane kit (assume that the customers are all new builders, everyone else can skip the basics). It is not like they would have to re-write the basic instructions every time they release a new plane. With the CNC cutting system they use they could even include a few jig pieces as part of the kit for no cost increase.

After all the talk on the Z-bend connections I did a little sanding on the outside of the bend and it still takes a lot of pressure to get it in but it never came close to braking. The hinge clips on the other hand are not as resilient as I would have expected. I broke two of them just fitting things together. They should include half a dozen extra clips in the parts and cut back on the 20 or more servo arms they include.

3 hour build? How on earth could you even come close to building this plane in 3-4 hours. I would pay to see a video of that being done without jigs. How about a build-to-fly competition at the next ETOC? You have to build it and put it through some type of flight test and then get judged on your build quality, time and flight performance. That would be a competition.

Now that I have that out of my system, I still like the plane and look forward to finishing it. A real build thread would be appreciated.

Ugh!

The plastic parts in my Reflection kit are obviously defective - the hinge clips are as brittle as antique glass. Being very careful, I broke two installing the elevator and rudder. Since I had a couple extra, I proceeded with the build and figured I would replace them later. When it came time to install the ailerons, I went as gently as I could, but ALMOST ALL OF THE CLIP HINGES BROKE [:@]. Between both wingsets, only 3 went on without snapping and pieces flying off like toenail clippings.

As you know, this is at the end of final assembly, right before starting the servo install. Even if I had more clip hinges, digging the old ones out to glue the new ones in is going to make for a hacked-up build. What a pain in the neck - I feel like I just wasted my weekend.

It looks like the brittle parts all came off of one of the two parts sprues - the control horns (other sprue) popped on without issue. I guess I'll be calling GP tomorrow .

P.S. Also, noone has mentioned that this kit is shy two hinge retainer rings. 10 are provided on the sprues, but the build requires 12 (8 for the wings, 2 for the elevator, and 2 for the rudder). No biggie, as these are easy to make from scrap, but how does a kit get through dozens of prototypes and production testing without someone noticing missing parts?