I was wondering if this plane can really be set up as a sport flyer. I like it's looks and how it is said to preform, but I have been told that the Sledge would be the best 3d trainer. I was wondering if this plane would be any good(I didn't ask about it before)
Thanks,
Nathan P.

'can it be set up as a sport flyer ?'

yes it can, assuming sport flying means standard aerobatics like loops, rolls, stall turns etc. You would just build it at standard, use small throws and a conservative C of G.

However if you want a 3D trainer, to learn prop hanging, waterfalls, walls, parachutes etc, whilst the Capiche can do them all, there are easier models out there to learn on. The Capiche's wing is relatively thin compared to most funfly/3d planes and thus has a sharper stall which is not ideal for a 3d begineer.

The Capiche's strength lies in its versatility it does smooth pattern style aeros well and can also do 3D well. Its knife edge characteristics are excellent.

There is supposedly a funfly type wing coming out for the capiche. This would probably make the Capiche into a suitable 3d trainer. I'm sure Archie will update us on the progress of the funfly wing...............

Chris
(Capiche owner)

*** was that window? wheres my reply??? ARGH!!!!![:@]

try again

i can can prophang, but not my Capiche yet, on low rates it's very docile, and can be flown in a "sport" manner, however give any plane to any old guy and he'll set it up and fly it in "sport mode" loops and rolls at the most. you have the tranny, it'll only do what you want it too. its not suddenly going to 3D on you just coz it wants to
i quite enjoy just flying mine around sometimes with no tricks..

however, it's no funfly, if you want close slow and extreme, then get a fat wing jobby..
i'm waiting for the FF wing too.. if i don't do my own first.

I want to get into the very large planes, 27% and up. I just liked this plane more than the profiles. If they are better to learn on, then I will get one of them. but if there is going to be a funfly wing, why shouldn't I get this one? The sledge is the profile I was thinking of, but I kind of wanted something with a full fuse. Oh yeah, I can hover the Giles TOC and the CAP on Aerofly with the sim speed all the way up now (not slown down)

put it this way. Ali whos a UK champion. said it flys like a biggun more than any other plane of this size. to me, it's just nice and smooth

on AFP try adding the turbulanec up abit, this will make it more realistic. as for comparison to real flight of the big birds i dot know!

heres me hoverint the katana on AFP, it starting to fall out cos i let go of the tranny to press the printscreen button!

and for good measure heres me KEing the extra! onec again it staring to drop off cos........

The way the capiche flies has been described as Mini-TOC, so it might be what you are looking for, i just dont really know at this stage because i only have 4 flights on mine.
I myself am very pleased with ito far. I havent started to really 3D it yet(but what i did try, it did it well), but it does pattern soo smoothly, and knife edge is very very good.
I will be getting the Funfly wing when it comes out. It will be a versatile model when you can switch bettween the wings.
Here's mine with a Saito 72 up front.

Tell you what luke, that lovley, i like the extra black bit on the back of the fus! cant even see the 'join' line! Well done (or should i say well done lukes dad (dont know if these old smiilies work still))

Blackhawk, I hope I can help....

For the avoidance of doubt I work with Island Hobbies who produce the C50 as we call it so I hope you do not see my post as biased.. I wish to give straight advice....to have the wrong person buy this plane and crtisize it is defamatory and unhelpful.. this is truly a superb design when used properly !

C50 when set up with a forward cg and sensible throws is the greatest low wing sports plane you could want! EXCEPT ! it will lull you into a false sense of security.... it is so light and well behaved in this mode that if you move onto something else you might think you cant fly properly.......

If you are a hot 3D aero man, C50 will do more than you can ! The best are impressed.
You are not supposed to get this performance from this machine.... but you do !

RULES
That said... many think 3D is Fun Fly 3D... C50 is not a fun fly..... if you want to do easy prop hang and catch it get somat else unless you are very good.... if you want smooth aero and 3D then this is unbeatable...... it really is true that most people dont believe it when they see it !

we are working on some videos for the site..... but someone else will have to mention it cos I might get done for advertising..

The fact is I told you why you should not buy it !

Good luck !

So do you think it would be better to get a more funfly plane to start out? Also, how long until the funfly wing comes out, and how would it be with that. I want to get into the larger stuff, but if you think the sledge would be better, then I will get it.

Nathan, There is a review on this site of the C50. Might want to check it out.
The C50 is all the rage with the UK guys, and as Archie has said,it has impressed some very well known and accomplished pilots across the big pond.
Do not know mush about it myself, but there is a large Capishe 50 thread in the 3D forums that might answer many of your questions.

I Know, but going through 50 some pages to find it is hard. I wanted to ask in a new thread, but I will check it out.

Archie:
Would it be better when the funfly wing comes out? I still have a plane I will fly for quite a while. I have been practising with the turbulence up halfway on Aerofly pro, (windspeed still only about two miles an hour). I can hover still but for a shorter amount of time.

Blackhawk, I'm not into 3-D (a pipe dream for the future maybe?), but I do like to fly, and I find my capiche flys as well as any other much larger model. My last favorite was the Protech Katana S-180, and I loved that plane (dont know why I ever sold it), yet funny enough the capiche although smaller is more forgiving, and precise. I have an ex UK comp flyer who sometimes takes the capiche and does things I cringe at, and wonder how she ever stays together, but then I turn the rates back down and just fly her through all the "Normal" flying routines, well with the odd attempt at prop hanging (at about 100 foot up).

No I dont think the capiche is the ideal fun-fly, but if you want a fun to fly model that does and goes where its told, and looks good when she does it, then she fits the bill.

Blackhawk, from what I gather the fun fly wing won't be out for some time as the guys at Island Hobbies are concentrating on a 140 size version of the Capiche at the moment.

If you are looking for more of a funfly type plane, the Hype 3D is proving very popular, but watch the tail as it has a reputation for breaking (flying wires should solve that).

The other thing is that the C50 is currently only readily available in the UK. You can ship to the US, but I'm sure it is not cheap, and it doesn't help you that the Dollar is quite weak at the moment against the Pound.

If you can get into the main C50 thread, I'm doing a build on there at the moment. Fuselage and tail done, wing and ailerons nearly finished.

Nathan, it might be easier to ask how much sky you want to use?
the Hype ect will use much less space doing it's thing than the Capiche which likes to be flown in big smooth pattern type style ( to get the best from it ) however it's tricking me because it's so lightly loaded it'll fly in a small space too ( still not hype small space tho ) you can be caught out trying to fly it like a Limbo Dancer.

if you wanted to compair it to other planes that like to be flown in the same manner ( but can't touch the Capiche ) the Acrowot, Balsa Nova, and Seduction would be good comparisons.

i can't see there not being a FF wing for the Capiche even tho work is on the 140 because there are lots of people asking for one, if i don't design my own first and if i did i'd probably go with a hypeish wing grafed to fit anyway. Then it'll do all you ask.

but for now, don't get the Capiche if you want to be hovering over the patch into a slight wind, pop into prophang and torque roll around the patch, leave that for Hypes and Cougars.

The Capiche is big open 3D and pattern.

Would the Hype be as good as a 3D trainer as the Sledge, what I want is something that has a "Full" fuselage but still can do all the stuff the sledge can do, and not be much (or any) harder. I just don't like the sledge's profile fuse that much. If the sledge could be kit bashed into a fuselage plane, I would get it (all I would need are some plans to look at).

If you are learning 3D and hovering,etc get a profile (only my opinion), they are so much easier to repair when you try to push the laws of physics too far.

Build it quick, light and dont make it too pretty, that way you wont be worrying about damaging it. It really depends if you are flying the thing to develop you skills, or to have something that looks good. My opinion, forget the looks, and go for practicallity, then once you are competent in "real world 3D", get a nice sleek thin winged plane, such as the C50.

Cameron McDonald.

I'm with you Cameron, I'm knocking together a Spad-3D, total cost of parts (well enough Correx (coroplast) for 3 models , $25 (us).