I had an extra Saito 72 "laying around" so I ordered a Hype 3D today to put it in. Does anyone have any feedback on this combo or do I need to get the recommended and find another plane for the Saito?

72 should be ok for the Hype.

I have flown my Hype at the field in Georgetown a few times.

I am in Austin on a very regular basis for work.

I will be there most of the month of January, during the week.

I'll bring mine and compare power between the 72 and the Weston 50T1.

Got the Hype in the mail (UPS) yesterday. The construction seems to be top notch. I can see why some folks have issues with these planes coming apart though, it is built very very light. The instructions are pretty much worthless and I'm surprised to see they recommend attaching the rear section with CA instead of epoxy. Maybe it's not an issue.

What are the major building tips and things to modify before I get started?




YNOT, let me know when you'll be in and we can compare the [email protected]

I cut a hole in the bottom rear fuse- to epoxy the stab in, also I used the scrap from the stab center covering to cover the hole I made in the
bottom of the fuse . also some light flying wires may be a good idea?also
I am going with better CA hinges the ones in the kit are a tad thin and
YES it is very light !!!!should rock w/ the .72
I have a YS63 going in mine

Hey Beerman,

Got mine last week. I know what you mean about CA ing the fin in, my first time doing it. I was surprised its rock solid. That CA really hardens the balsa, but you gotta work fast. I plan on building according to directions, dont want to put servos in the tail. I have pull pulls on my DP Ultimate and it works great. I want to keep as light as possible. The plane is made to fly slow. I read about some problems when you fly to fast with it. I went with the West engine, liked the way it fits, I was tempted to put a YS 63 I had laying around, but I think the West is the better choice for weight and fit. I have the wing, ailerons, stab and elevators in place, next will be engine install. So far this has been one of the easiest planes to assemble. Keep me posted on your building. What engine are you installing ?

I received mine today.... only to find that UPS had dented the box and shattered a rib in the wing [&o] Soo... the nice people over at Modellbau already called ups to file a claim and they're coming back out tomorrow to pick it up. I'm just glad this isn't the flying season up here in michigan. I would be really bummed if it was in the middle of june and this happened.

Thanks for the feedback, I might look to beef up the firewall as well to make sure the Saito .72 doens't play havoc on the stock gluing. I've only heard rumor of closed loop systems. How is it different from the pull-pull stuff? I did a search but didn't find much, and the manual assumes you know. Thanks again.

Saito 72 w/ 14x4 & hi nitro fuel can pull 9 lb static thrust on a good day, at least 8.5 lb running rich. If you can keep the plane below 5.5 lb, it will do really well.

Closed loop and pull-pull are one and the same. They just use different terminology on the other side of the pond.

You guys are going to enjoy this plane!

Right on, I'm in good shape then. I should have known, spats, struts, close loop, pull-pull, football, soccer...

I'm running a 20/20 mix for the Saito so power should be good enough for my level of skill. I'm concenred with weight distribution but we'll get there when we get there. Any ideas on props? I was using a 13-6 on my Stick with the .72 and it worked pretty well.

Pro Zinger 14x4 @ 10200

I was running a 13 x 6 APC on my .72 in a stick and in a something extra,and use Morgan 20/20.

I switched to an APC 14 x 4W and LOVE this prop/fuel combo.

Please try an APC 14x4W I think you will really like it.

PS> I am using OS F glow plug

I'll have to try that prop on whatever I put the Saito in. I run the F plugs in both my .72 and 1.00, wouldn't run without that plug...It is one of my favorite engines, but as I'm sizing it up to the front of the Hype I'm not so sure the .72 is a good fit for it. I may end up going with one of the other two strokes on this plane. My other concern with a four stroke is the torque. This plane is built so light it might be a little much stress wise, but I wouldn't know first hand as I tend to epoxy the s**t out of my ARFs.

Hey BeerMan
That Saito 72 should be a good set up and you won't have the add any glue to this plane. I have a Flip with a YS 63 and the plane is built just as lite as the Hype with no problems at all.

Hey Guys,
Just finishing up my Hype. Installing rudder linkage. I have plenty of throw on the rudder. Only problem is when elevator has full throw it interfears with the rudder cable on the pull pull. Unless the cable is put very close to the rudder. Does anyone have this problem ? Is there enough throw that close to the rudder ?

Thanks
Chris

sounds like you may have the rudder horns installed to low , mine clear at max throw with room to spare

Can you measure from the top of your rudder down to the control horn and let me know. Right now I placed the control horn in level line from where the rudder cable exits the fusealage to meet the control horn on the rudder. It looks if I make it higher it will throw the alignment way out

My plane came with marks( pin holes ) for the pull-pull cable exits on the sides of the fuse.
My horns are four and a quarter inchs from the bottom of the rudder. It helps to cross the rudder pull-pull wires inside the fuse so there is not as much of a bind when exiting the fuse. The back servo is the rudder servo and the forward one is the elevator servo. I was not impressed with the stock pull-pull wire so i used some DuBro 4-40 wire.

HTH

I contemplated the Saito some more, I ordered the West. The more I sized it up the less it seemed like the right fit. I love the Saito so I'll find something cool to put it in.

beerman,

By right fit, were you talking physically, or personal preference? I've been looking at this plane for a while and an wondering what engine to put in it. Really can't afford the West combo, and I have a Saito .91 in my UCD .46, as well as an Irvine .53 in my OMP Edge. Would the Saito fit in the cowl?

A fit physically is what I was referring to. The .72 is my favorite engine, it gets better as time goes on. My decision came after seeing how lightly the Hype is built. I'm sure it would have worked great and been a stupid amount of power (that's a good thing) but I wasn't into beefing things up to handle the torque and cutting things out to clear what needed to be cleared. I'm sure some would argue the need, but I have a tendency to overdo things a bit. But...if you modify the motor mount or get something heftier, and hang the Saito inverted instead of at an angle like the West it would fit well, and appears to look like it might clear the cowl. I ran a Cline regulator with my UCD3D and the Saito 100. I would recommend the same if you go with an inverted 72.

I think your .91 might be a different story though...

So, it looks like the .91 may be too big. I really didn't want to take it out of the UCD just yet, anyway. I keep seeing numbers on the West being such a powerful motor, but the RPMs with the 12.253/75 props are only running around 12500. that's what I'm getting out of my Irvine .53. What makes the West so much better, other than that it fits the plane well?

I'm sure someone can answer better than I, but I hear with the throttle pipe combo that it makes the engine produce much more torque than a normal 2 stroke of it's size and able to swing a larger prop. And with the weight or lack of in this engine it makes it a great match. Apparently West offers a simiar version that is stroked differently giving it more RPMs and spinning a smaller prop faster. So I hear.

Well, the WEST 50 T1 with the Throtle Pipe for this plane is a lightweight powerful combination.
What counts is the linear feel on the power you get, not the absolute Higher RPM.
This engine is ported for torque has a true ABN construction, runs smooth throuout the throtle range without hesitations, breaks-in on the plane, and it has the looks
Very pleased with the whole package (Plane -engine-pipe).
Just make shure you get the correct Pipe for this Engine-Plane. It is a custom special made one.

Baper[8D]

It works best with a 13x4w or even a 14x4w. As stated, it is set up for torque, to swing big props at low rpm for lots of trust.

the other version is the V1, it is ported differently, comes with a tuned pipe, and gives very high rpm readings with smaller props.