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RE: Great planes ultimate 160
Take into consideration that for me the manual's low rate willl probably be my high.
Jim, I will be using the pitt's mostly for fit. Thank's!
PnW, 3010's on throttle as well.
Jim, I will be using the pitt's mostly for fit. Thank's!
PnW, 3010's on throttle as well.
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Since I had a few JR8611's laying around that I had just rebuilt, that is what I used all around on my current one (yea I know, way overkill but I like overkill), but without looking at my posts way earlier in this thread, like 5 or so years ago, I seem to think I used 5645's everywhere and the servo that was the precursor to the 7955, I want to say it was a 5945 but that just does not sound correct.
As far as throttle is concerned, I would never ever use a used servo. I like fast servos for the throttle, especially for 3D. I have been using the HS-7775MG recently for all my throttle setups.
With a 50cc in the plane, I think I would go with the pitts muffler. I think it looks better, you do not have to chop a big hunk out of the cowl and the extra 200rpm you'll gain on the straight stack muffler will make really no difference in the end since this plane tends to come in around 16+/- lbs and that is just about perfect for a 50cc.
As far as throttle is concerned, I would never ever use a used servo. I like fast servos for the throttle, especially for 3D. I have been using the HS-7775MG recently for all my throttle setups.
With a 50cc in the plane, I think I would go with the pitts muffler. I think it looks better, you do not have to chop a big hunk out of the cowl and the extra 200rpm you'll gain on the straight stack muffler will make really no difference in the end since this plane tends to come in around 16+/- lbs and that is just about perfect for a 50cc.
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Dont forget though, you are putting a 55cc on it, gonna have a bit more authority than what the manufacturer called for on engine size.
I use the 3010's on a 40cc and they are a great servo though. Just all depends on flying style.
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ORIGINAL: a1pcfixer
HS-65MG, touted as being somewhat shockproof.
Used by many 3D/profile fliers.
Cheaper, lesser servos can be used, but consider that after all is said & done
it IS controlling a rather important feature of your model....the throttle!
HS-65MG, touted as being somewhat shockproof.
Used by many 3D/profile fliers.
Cheaper, lesser servos can be used, but consider that after all is said & done
it IS controlling a rather important feature of your model....the throttle!
I like the looks of that for throttle.... thanks !
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RE: Great planes ultimate 160
acerc,
notice the pencil line drawn on the wood handle, it's at 1 inch from center ofrear screw, with the wings off this is your CG location..........
notice the pencil line drawn on the wood handle, it's at 1 inch from center ofrear screw, with the wings off this is your CG location..........
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Thank's for the support guy's. But taking into consideration the mfg only call's for 50oz I'm going with Futaba 3010's. I have those on a 20cc profile and do very well with the size of control surface on it. If it don't go well with this ultimate I will let you all know and you allcan say you told me so. I have a number of gas powered and never had a servo fail because of nylon gear's. We'll see with this one.
Again Thank's, Robert
Thank's for the support guy's. But taking into consideration the mfg only call's for 50oz I'm going with Futaba 3010's. I have those on a 20cc profile and do very well with the size of control surface on it. If it don't go well with this ultimate I will let you all know and you allcan say you told me so. I have a number of gas powered and never had a servo fail because of nylon gear's. We'll see with this one.
Again Thank's, Robert
Where did you see that? Just curious as this is the specs I have :
Ailerons: 4 servos at 98 oz-in torque Elevator: 2 servos at 98 oz-in torque Rudder: 1 servo at 100 oz-in torque or 2 @ 50 oz-in torque Throttle: 1 servo at 30 oz-in torque
Just thought I'd share ...
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acerc,
notice the pencil line drawn on the wood handle, it's at 1 inch from center of rear screw, with the wings off this is your CG location..........
acerc,
notice the pencil line drawn on the wood handle, it's at 1 inch from center of rear screw, with the wings off this is your CG location..........
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Got the 1inch thing, that will be handy. Here's my manual in regard's to the servo's. This is why I was holy cowing the suggestion's on torque. Now I went looking and Tower does list the above post torques. And on GreatPlanes web site they just say high torquebutlist the Futaba 3010 as the servo's. I bought everything I thought I needed this morning so well see.
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Hmm, now I feel I went a bit overboard with my HD9150's on all but rudder and its a HD1218
Whats others thoughts? Could I get by with lesser? or should I just stick with my plan?
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RE: Great planes ultimate 160
HD9150
180 in oz @ 4.8
222 in oz @ 6.0
HD1214th
230in oz @ 7.4
200in oz @ 6.0
Both are metal geared, and the 1214 is double BB (rudder application)
I was kinda thinking this was a general range for a 50cc size plane? I mostly have had 30cc and smaller planes.
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Awesome plane! I love mine it has a DLE 55 in it and will 3D all day long has all the power you are looking for. Brought up the wing load a little but nothing bad. Plane will land very nice do not have to keep to much throttle! I love the plane one thing that I would suggest is up grade the hardware on the ailerons! The stock gear will wear out and not hold as well hanger 9 pro links are the way to go.
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ORIGINAL: PropsnWings
HD9150
HD9150
180 in oz @ 4.8
222 in oz @ 6.0
HD1214th
230in oz @ 7.4
200in oz @ 6.0
You'd be better off with 4 ail servos of a bit less torque, but overall you'll do just fine. Nothing to fret about.
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RE: Great planes ultimate 160
I goofed..... I shouldnt type when its that late lol
try this again
1214th (rudder) is 292in oz at 6v
9150's (ail,elev) is 200in oz at 6v
My thinking was the rudder needed a buit more push
try this again
1214th (rudder) is 292in oz at 6v
9150's (ail,elev) is 200in oz at 6v
My thinking was the rudder needed a buit more push
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Ahhh, that's better!
You'll be fine.
Ahhh, that's better!
You'll be fine.
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Well at least I know to stay out of the workshop when its after midnight lol....
Well at least I know to stay out of the workshop when its after midnight lol....
I'll work on something for far shorty periods before getting to that point of 'I've had
enough' hits me. Besides, there's always tomorrow.
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Got the 1inch thing, that will be handy. Here's my manual in regard's to the servo's. This is why I was holy cowing the suggestion's on torque. Now I went looking and Tower does list the above post torques. And on GreatPlanes web site they just say high torque but list the Futaba 3010 as the servo's. I bought everything I thought I needed this morning so well see.
Got the 1inch thing, that will be handy. Here's my manual in regard's to the servo's. This is why I was holy cowing the suggestion's on torque. Now I went looking and Tower does list the above post torques. And on GreatPlanes web site they just say high torque but list the Futaba 3010 as the servo's. I bought everything I thought I needed this morning so well see.
Here is the Great Planes Tech Note regarding servo torque:
Performance Series Ultimate Biplane 3D 1.60 ARF (GPMA1307)
Tech Note
June 18, 2008
Servos with a minimum torque rating of 98 oz-in must be used for all of the control surfaces of this plane (ailerons, elevators, rudder). However, there is an additional recommendation for the servos which is that they should have metal gears.
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Not much to say. Mine's going well. If not for Florida jet's I would be done. I had another I had to finish up before starting. Pulled it out of the box Tuesday tighened up the covering. Wednesday installed the aileron's their servo's and linkage. Thursday had something's to do but did manage to pick up a few supplies such as 1/4ply for the wing joiner's. Done working F-Jet's so tomorrow will get to work on it. Have to order the I strut hardware,wasn't in the box. I'll install the bottom wing and then move on the the tail surface's untill the part's arive.
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Update. Here's mine. Finishing up the magnetic cowl mount now. Only three minor task to be completed. 1 Glue upper wing together, the kit was missing the knurled knobs and threaded rod. Parts should be here tomorrow.
2 Attatch canopy. And 3 Put support wire's on landing gear.
2 Attatch canopy. And 3 Put support wire's on landing gear.
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On the wing joiner's I laminated 1/4ply to replace the kit's. Even if it had not been recomended by those on here I would have done it. That balsa piece is just silly for a plane like this.